asian.neet

asian.neet

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They just really want us to deny reality and "distract" ourselves from those thoughts. Literally this is what people want us to do word by word. And this is a tactic used in cults to shut down critical thinking skills

What a massive cope.

Keep "coping" nurse.
 
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lament.

lament.

the Immortal
Jun 28, 2023
174
Lmao this is so funny to me because I'm constantly in my own thoughts daydreaming or distracting myself by watching videos / playing games, and here I am still incredibly depressed, actively trying to kill myself. There's no way this nurse actually knows what being suicidal is like right? "Go outside and yell all your blessings in life"? This has to be satire, there is no way.
 
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Green Destiny

Green Destiny

Life isn't worth the trouble.
Nov 16, 2019
867
"Talk loudly or yell all the blessings on your life" Oh please, I did not ask to exist, blessings be damned.
 
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Rogue Proxy

Rogue Proxy

Enlightened
Sep 12, 2021
1,316
Goodbyyyyyyyyyyyyye, Nurse! Or should I say, copium dealer. This preachy pile of shit needs to get out of their high horse's asshole and stay down! All this "count your blessings" bullshit is used to shame, guilt-trip, minimize, and silence those into compliance. Conforming to this pro-life narrative results in greater human servitude for longer durations.
 
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rozeske

Maybe I am the problem
Dec 2, 2023
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Bless her heart! She reminds me of the ignorant people that say "Why are people starving? Instead of suffering in hunger why don't they just eat good food?"
 
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TwoWaysOnly

Member
Dec 18, 2023
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you know, I would not celebrate anyone taking their own life, but jesus christ,

"we can call it stinkin thinkin borrowed from AA"

you should drink, you should drink every day, can't be worse than that
 
Abandoned Character

Abandoned Character

(he./him)
Mar 24, 2023
269
The same thing can work for one person and not work for another. Personally, the advice suggested above I have applied in my own life countless times and it often helps. Sometimes I can't get out of the rumination, which is when talking helps. But noticing unproductive thoughts and shying away from them via distraction or intention is a very useful skill for myself to avoid spiraling thoughts. Perhaps a comment that doesn't align with many others here is not welcome, to which I apologize and you may delete I do not mind.
 
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FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
38,868
Is that even serious, I find it hard to take anything like that seriously but if it is then that individual really is severely deluded. Existence itself is the problem rather than the wish to be gone from it anyway, I see suicide as very rational to prevent and escape from suffering in an existence that was very undesirable in the first place.
There's nothing irrational about preferring non-existence to suffering in this meaningless existence that was so cruelly imposed in the first place no matter what pro-lifers say.

I believe the so called "help" that pro-lifers try and force onto others is simply to try and brainwash people so that they continue to be a slave to suffering until they die anyway. It's incredibly delusional to believe that suicidal people even need "help" in the first place, existence is what is harmful rather than very valid thoughts of wanting to be free from it.
 
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Hollowman

Empty
Dec 14, 2021
1,355
Sure, go outside and yell so your neighbors can call the cops and you end up in a psych ward.
 
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Raindancer

Raindancer

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Nov 4, 2023
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The same thing can work for one person and not work for another. Personally, the advice suggested above I have applied in my own life countless times and it often helps. Sometimes I can't get out of the rumination, which is when talking helps. But noticing unproductive thoughts and shying away from them via distraction or intention is a very useful skill for myself to avoid spiraling thoughts. Perhaps a comment that doesn't align with many others here is not welcome, to which I apologize and you may delete I do not mind.
Very well said. I have applied those same techniques with a lot of success. When I was in my teens, I very much hated myself and my inner talk completely enforced that fact. Slowly using the above methods I began to change the way I think and except for occasional thought of me being an idiot, almost all those old thoughts are gone.
 
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sorlox

sorlox

preparations...
Dec 1, 2023
122
Ah, yes, cliche pro-life thing. "Are you upset? Go hug the sun and touch the grass. Love your life, or what are you, a dumbass?". Those speeches make me nauseated
 
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LastLoveLetter

LastLoveLetter

Persephone
Mar 28, 2021
657
I used to respond to statements like that with some self-restraint and politeness but I just can't anymore.

The ludicrous shit people suggest is genuinely just embarrassing.

Now if this sincerely does help some people in certain contexts, I am not judging that. If these tactics get them through, say, a rough patch.

But it makes me cringe that this rhetoric tends to be spouted indiscriminately irrespective of people's individual circumstances and wishes. And if this is woefully inadequate or inappropriate, we are deemed to be "too negative" or "not trying hard enough."

What about those of us for whom suicide is not simply a fleeting, passing thought?

No amount of gratitude is going to save my deteriorating body from itself. No amount of positive thinking is going to compensate for years and years of abuse and trauma. No amount of distraction is going to ameliorate my chronic pain, brain fog, partial paralysis, laundry list of symptoms or crippling lack of support. And to suggest otherwise is delusional at best.
 
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nozomu

nozomu

Global Mod // will i wiN my recovery arc
Nov 28, 2022
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This works when your suicidality is at the level of invasive thoughts that bother you. I'm afraid this won't work for people like me who have their method in their closets... It's more than a thought for me
 
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cold_severance

Student
Dec 11, 2023
139
that's fucking delusional. its on the level of suicide hotlines if not worse.
 
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SilentSadness

SilentSadness

The rain pours eternally.
Feb 28, 2023
1,123
Any time someone says something like this, they always seem to assume suicide is some kind of crime to be prevented, but never explain why. They claim "you and everyone you know risks loss" as if that's a negative but that's actually the point of suicide, loss of suffering. It's upsetting that a nurse is so anti suicide.
 
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breezeboy

breezeboy

To infinity and beyond
Dec 8, 2023
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Same vibes.
 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
9,822
I just get the impression most people think suicidal people experience their ideation as intrusive thoughts. Maybe even irrational thoughts. You don't tend to want to fight or banish them when they look like your best option!
 
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Nofuture1234

Member
Jan 25, 2024
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Honestly all the therapy I've ever had has basically just been this same crap repeated over and over, if someone can only be happy ignoring what is actually happening to and around them, maybe they shouldn't have to be here at all.
It's not really about saving people though, it's all because the powers that be want people to keep generating tax money but don't want to invest time and money to make life worth living
Lmao this is so funny to me because I'm constantly in my own thoughts daydreaming or distracting myself by watching videos / playing games, and here I am still incredibly depressed, actively trying to kill myself. There's no way this nurse actually knows what being suicidal is like right? "Go outside and yell all your blessings in life"? This has to be satire, there is no way.
Exactly, the problem isn't the thoughts but the reality one lives in. My negative thoughts are solely a product of observing and experiencing reality.
 
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pthnrdnojvsc

Extreme Pain is much worse than people know
Aug 12, 2019
2,737
Someone should tell that nurse and all prolifers , 1. We all will die anyway. 2. Extreme pain is many times worse than any so called pleasure can be good . Nothing is worth even 6 hours of the most unbearable constant pain. 3 . All humans and animals get old. 4. There is no objective purpose to life or to live. 5. Everyone should have the choice to continue living or to die. 6 evolution is true a human is just that first cell ,( u even start off as a single cell a sperm an egg a zygote.. a human is that first vertebrate , an animal. That first cell a sperm a zygote is a machine a human is a machine 8. The above and that There are so many horrible things in this life and evil world like diseases accidents old age oppression lies etc show life is very bad and so imo these people wanting to continue to live ( for a while cause we all die) and acting to keep others who are suffering in this Prison are brainwashed . 9 life is an imposition / kidnapping / prison / torture / slavery

These are pictures of a sperm cell from different animals. They might look a different shape but are really the same inside carry the DNA. That's what I am a cell

main-qimg-eb9194a82a3c736c60a99c76d8c1eddd-lq



A sperm cell with DNA inside. I was that so how am I not now? ::====>

Structure-of-a-mature-human-sperm-cell.png
 
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Dr Iron Arc

Dr Iron Arc

Into the Unknown
Feb 10, 2020
21,154
Gaslighting yourself. What a brilliant solution. Why not take it a step further and let's all manifest inflation and climate change to end too through willpower alone.
 
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boblong

Student
Mar 15, 2023
110
Everyone has their own rules . I have no right to judge.
 
ijustwishtodie

ijustwishtodie

death will be my ultimate bliss
Oct 29, 2023
5,168
How interesting that they suggest not thinking about life as a coping mechanism for acknowledging the bad things in life. It's almost like life isn't the beautiful sunshine and rainbows that pro lifers say it is.

Also, none of them have yet to give a reason as to why suicide is a bad thing. They all just say that suicide is bad no matter what without even thinking about it
 
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Thanksforeverything

Thanksforeverything

A handshake of carbon monoxide
Jul 24, 2023
235
I'm sure this works for some people but if I have my SN in my closet because it's about the only thing that gives me some peace of mind, I don't think I'm at a point where I can just swat these thoughts away like it's a fly buzzing around my face. I think the fundamental thing that society gets wrong about helping suicidal people is that they can never put themselves in those shoes. Taking your own life is inherently associated with the idea of making an irreversible mistake, and whether that's right or wrong, regular people fail to understand where that sentiment stems from in the first place.

Now this doesn't mean that I would wish for more people in the healthcare industry to have suicidal ideation, so they can really understand what it feels like, but I think if more people with pre-existing suicidal ideation that were able to recover went into healthcare, it'd be a lot more effective. Of course, that's just a fairytale idea and doctors/psychologists/counselors are constantly told to separate themselves from clients for pragmatic reasons. So really, at the end of the day, the only person that can help you not go down this route is you and you alone.
 
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WhatDoesTheFoxSay?

WhatDoesTheFoxSay?

Hold your head high, and your middle finger higher
Dec 25, 2020
1,135
Why not take it a step further and let's all manifest inflation and climate change to end too through willpower alone.
Come on everyone, we can do this!

Let's all make a wish and snap your fingers! It's really THAT simple.

And don't forget to Pray the Gay Away (don't mean to offend anyone) with a side of bleach!

(Disclaimer: Just thought this was funny. I've no interest in politics whatsoever.)

 
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Hotsackage

Enlightened
Mar 11, 2019
1,040
It does pass, but chronic mental illnesses arise chronically
 
MiMif

MiMif

I do not live for others to understand me...
Sep 13, 2023
588
Bro where did you get this from?
Bro where did you get this from?
 
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Gonnerr

Enlightened
Mar 12, 2023
1,322
If i dont solve my physical health issues, i will become homeless , better ctb than having to live on the street.

There is no words for that , sorry. Only death is better than homelessness.
Someone should tell that nurse and all prolifers , 1. We all will die anyway. 2. Extreme pain is many times worse than any so called pleasure can be good . Nothing is worth even 6 hours of the most unbearable constant pain. 3 . All humans and animals get old. 4. There is no objective purpose to life or to live. 5. Everyone should have the choice to continue living or to die. 6 evolution is true a human is just that first cell ,( u even start off as a single cell a sperm an egg a zygote.. a human is that first vertebrate , an animal. That first cell a sperm a zygote is a machine a human is a machine 8. The above and that There are so many horrible things in this life and evil world like diseases accidents old age oppression lies etc show life is very bad and so imo these people wanting to continue to live ( for a while cause we all die) and acting to keep others who are suffering in this Prison are brainwashed . 9 life is an imposition / kidnapping / prison / torture / slavery

These are pictures of a sperm cell from different animals. They might look a different shape but are really the same inside carry the DNA. That's what I am a cell

main-qimg-eb9194a82a3c736c60a99c76d8c1eddd-lq



A sperm cell with DNA inside. I was that so how am I not now? ::====>

Structure-of-a-mature-human-sperm-cell.png
We are an ejaculation. Lmao. A painful one.šŸ™ƒ
 
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DazaiKinnie

DazaiKinnie

Cringe Isekai Author
Apr 27, 2023
125
When I read this I think of the next thing I said to my friends about this subject.
"If you bang your head against a wall telling yourself that there is no wall there won't change the fact that you banging your head against a wall and you are hurting yourself, denying it won't stop your pain, you are just ignoring it and that ain't good" It's the same thing. It's like telling someone who's blind, "Don't be blind, have you tried opening your eyes?"
 
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