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[BornToFail]

I thought you said a failure can... I thought you said a failure can win! It was all a lie, wasn't it?!

 

[hopeless302]

I mean, if someone thinks of themselves as a "genetic dead end" or whatever, then it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

 

[ikadasui]

I mean it's true though. Average and normal are that way for a reason, and when you do come out abnormal it's just playing catch up or hoping for a lucky break really. Either way, doesn't make me feel good or want to keep going because i happened to pull the "dead end" card.

 

[Doom]

I mean, if someone thinks of themselves as a "genetic dead end" or whatever, then it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

if you consider yourself a genic dead end the chances are 90% you are right, anyway

 

[makethepainstop]

I thought you said a failure can... I thought you said a failure can win! It was all a lie, wasn't it?!

That guy looks like he's doing just fine!

 

[Vault of Memories]

I want every mf that thinks like this to die! Including victims! Have some self respect.
If you learned that 2+2= 4, then you can learn whatever the fuck you struggle whit.
If you got two functional legs, then you can run and exercise and be the stupid bimbo male you want to be so badly.
If you are ugly and have a horrible personality, you can practice better self care and get out of 4chsn and stop being a miserable extremist cunt!
The question is, do you have the time? Do you have the money?
Maybe not, maybe you don't have those and those invalidste your plan, but for god's sake, unless you're retarded to the point you can't even tell me you're retarded, don't blame your genetics you stupid bastard! Wtf are you doing.
Then you're so miserable, you start being a fucking crab that push others to the end of the bucket! I will not say anything more, because i still don't want to get banned.
For some reason or the other, society pushed you down and what do you do, you say your very essence is flawed?

I didn't agree at all with the comment in OP's attachment, but wtf is this comment.

 

[BornToFail]

I want every mf that thinks like this to die! Including victims! Have some self respect.
If you learned that 2+2= 4, then you can learn whatever the fuck you struggle whit.
If you got two functional legs, then you can run and exercise and be the stupid bimbo male you want to be so badly.
If you are ugly and have a horrible personality, you can practice better self care and get out of 4chsn and stop being a miserable extremist cunt!
The question is, do you have the time? Do you have the money?
Maybe not, maybe you don't have those and those invalidste your plan, but for god's sake, unless you're retarded to the point you can't even tell me you're retarded, don't blame your genetics you stupid bastard! Wtf are you doing.
Then you're so miserable, you start being a fucking crab that push others to the end of the bucket! I will not say anything more, because i still don't want to get banned.
For some reason or the other, society pushed you down and what do you do, you say your very essence is flawed?

Ok

 

[Mofreeko]

I want every mf that thinks like this to die! Including victims! Have some self respect.
If you learned that 2+2= 4, then you can learn whatever the fuck you struggle whit.
If you got two functional legs, then you can run and exercise and be the stupid bimbo male you want to be so badly.
If you are ugly and have a horrible personality, you can practice better self care and get out of 4chsn and stop being a miserable extremist cunt!
The question is, do you have the time? Do you have the money?
Maybe not, maybe you don't have those and those invalidste your plan, but for god's sake, unless you're retarded to the point you can't even tell me you're retarded, don't blame your genetics you stupid bastard! Wtf are you doing.
Then you're so miserable, you start being a fucking crab that push others to the end of the bucket! I will not say anything more, because i still don't want to get banned.
For some reason or the other, society pushed you down and what do you do, you say your very essence is flawed?

I agree that self improvement is possible, but the thing everyone seems to not take into consideration is how hard it is for people to live fulfilling lives if they don't have a good foundation to build off of. Normal people have years and years of successful friendships, opportunities and experiences that they draw from and build off of that the have-nots of society just don't. Some will forever be playing catch up while everyone else naturally speeds past them. You can't just wake up one day in your 20s and 30s and just undo the decades of failure and catch up to everyone else instantly or even quickly. Looking down on someone for giving up or opting out after a lifetime of failure and being unable to play the game as well as everyone else is a shitty thing to do, especially on a suicide forum of all places.

 

[Doom]

I agree that self improvement is possible, but the thing everyone seems to not take into consideration is how hard it is for people to live fulfilling lives if they don't have a good foundation to build off of. Normal people have years and years of successful friendships, opportunities and experiences that they draw from and build off of that the have-nots of society just don't. Some will forever be playing catch up while everyone else naturally speeds past them. You can't just wake up one day in your 20s and 30s and just undo the decades of failure and catch up to everyone else instantly or even quickly. Looking down on someone for giving up or opting out after a lifetime of failure and being unable to play the game as well as everyone else is a shitty thing to do, especially on a suicide forum of all places.

dude is also a hypocrite. If everything boils down to effort, what is he doing here? why not dedicate himself harder and find his happiness instead of wandering around in a cope forum.
anyone depressed thinking about killing themselves who believes in shitty ideology about effort and free will is a hypocrite, they cant fix their shitty life but expect people to do it Lmao

 

[hopeless302]

if you consider yourself a genic dead end the chances are 90% you are right, anyway

Idk, but a lot of people who say this stuff are perfectly fine physically or can get by with some minor improvements. If they can't improve or don't want to improve for whatever reasons then fine -- I think everyone on this sub can relate to that to some degree -- but that's not the same as having bad genes or whatever (unless you count the genetic factors that lead to certain psychological ailments like depression, which I'm 99% sure is NOT what the author of that comment is referring to lol).

I want every mf that thinks like this to die! Including victims! Have some self respect.
If you learned that 2+2= 4, then you can learn whatever the fuck you struggle whit.
If you got two functional legs, then you can run and exercise and be the stupid bimbo male you want to be so badly.
If you are ugly and have a horrible personality, you can practice better self care and get out of 4chsn and stop being a miserable extremist cunt!
The question is, do you have the time? Do you have the money?
Maybe not, maybe you don't have those and those invalidste your plan, but for god's sake, unless you're retarded to the point you can't even tell me you're retarded, don't blame your genetics you stupid bastard! Wtf are you doing.
Then you're so miserable, you start being a fucking crab that push others to the end of the bucket! I will not say anything more, because i still don't want to get banned.
For some reason or the other, society pushed you down and what do you do, you say your very essence is flawed?

I feel like this is a troll lol

 

[TydalWave]

I want every mf that thinks like this to die! Including victims! Have some self respect.
If you learned that 2+2= 4, then you can learn whatever the fuck you struggle whit.
If you got two functional legs, then you can run and exercise and be the stupid bimbo male you want to be so badly.
If you are ugly and have a horrible personality, you can practice better self care and get out of 4chsn and stop being a miserable extremist cunt!
The question is, do you have the time? Do you have the money?
Maybe not, maybe you don't have those and those invalidste your plan, but for god's sake, unless you're retarded to the point you can't even tell me you're retarded, don't blame your genetics you stupid bastard! Wtf are you doing.
Then you're so miserable, you start being a fucking crab that push others to the end of the bucket! I will not say anything more, because i still don't want to get banned.
For some reason or the other, society pushed you down and what do you do, you say your very essence is flawed?

I mean... This guy is a as***** but at the end of the day when I ask myself if I would want to bring another life into this world to have to deal with my DNA (my depression, anxiety) the answer is a hard NO.

Some people in the middle can self-improve to survive and cope. But the sad fact is that some of us are better off dead. Pain can outweigh the positivity afforded to us in this life. Some people are more unfortunate than others; whether that be in their genes or the environment.

Let's spread positivity about making educated choices that are in the best interest of those who are hurting, and stop focusing on those who are not.

 

[Doom]

but that's not the same as having bad genes or whatever (unless you count the genetic factors that lead to certain psychological ailments like depression, which I'm 99% sure is NOT what the maker of the meme is referring to lol).

ofc it is. Your personality/IQ/potential for improvements depends on a brain made up of cells, that depend on DNA to function, so obviously genes will determine how much you can suceed on life. Environment is also another big part.

 

[Deo volente]

There is truly something debasing to attempts to change one's perceived fate; to fight and struggle through the mire of one's own failure and misery at the same time that so many around us appear to glide above those dark waters without effort. It is simple to look at ourselves and laugh. There is nothing unfunny about it honestly. Next to the uncomplicated procession of normal people, the rabid attempts of a loser to evade their own doom is hilarious, if not a little sad.

Of course there is no escaping this. Who would even want to? Even if they could, how shameless would one have to be rejoin the ranks of the untroubled, covered in the muck and filth from their wrestling with an abject destiny. A destiny to which nobody else has probably ever even spared a thought.

So what is left? Dignity bids us to give up. To attempt to salvage any last mote of grace and just stop fighting. To sink into the murk and die there unseen. But then, death is not so easy. If it was, how many would end up in places like this? Some will find their way to the bottom and escape to their eternal relief. Others will find the threshold impassable and remain in the depths in an agonizing limbo that I am sure many of us know all too well.

Yet more may find themselves elsewhere though. Maybe they find that when they reach the bottom and salvation is in their grasp, the anguish of existing there is a bit more bearable. Maybe they accept that they exist in an abyss. Maybe they wonder who else is in the abyss; it couldn't be just them down there could it? Maybe they wonder why everybody else, the ones unencumbered by such strife, never even glance into the darkness below them, not even by accident. Are they scared?

Who knows? All I know is that, from down here, I care less and less about them every day.

 

[BornToFail]

Idk, but a lot of people who say this stuff are perfectly fine physically or can get by with some minor improvements. If they can't improve or don't want to improve for whatever reasons then fine -- I think everyone on this sub can relate to that to some degree -- but that's not the same as having bad genes or whatever (unless you count the genetic factors that lead to certain psychological ailments like depression, which I'm 99% sure is NOT what the author of that comment is referring to lol).

I feel like this is a troll lol

Yeah. me too. The profile picture gave it away, lol.

 

[HermitLonerGuy]

I want every mf that thinks like this to die! Including victims! Have some self respect.
If you learned that 2+2= 4, then you can learn whatever the fuck you struggle whit.
If you got two functional legs, then you can run and exercise and be the stupid bimbo male you want to be so badly.
If you are ugly and have a horrible personality, you can practice better self care and get out of 4chsn and stop being a miserable extremist cunt!
The question is, do you have the time? Do you have the money?
Maybe not, maybe you don't have those and those invalidste your plan, but for god's sake, unless you're retarded to the point you can't even tell me you're retarded, don't blame your genetics you stupid bastard! Wtf are you doing.
Then you're so miserable, you start being a fucking crab that push others to the end of the bucket! I will not say anything more, because i still don't want to get banned.
For some reason or the other, society pushed you down and what do you do, you say your very essence is flawed?

i have a micropenis, now what?

 

[Ineedtodie]

I didn't agree at all with the comment in OP's attachment, but wtf is this comment.

Its all circumstances, you can be born in an unvalidating family, environment, ignorant or careless one and you would internalize the shame. You see your routes cut too short too quickly. Family is important . You have a choice to this as well but remember you were a clueless helpless kid beforehand. The world won't give you a break. You wouldn't imagine how fast things can spiral to a nightmare. 2+2=4?
I don't know what I' m answering between.
Relationships struggles? What?

 

[goneStar]

Broski, lemme give you a real life example. Me.

I am a dude, fairly unattractive (an objective 3-4 on the 10 scale) and used to hate myself during puberty. I'm skinny asf, not all too tall and used to have stunted social development bc I used to basement dwell and study all the time. Still want to ctb, but at least not bc of this.

I empathise with you greatly as I have had the same thoughts and feelings. However, I was lucky in that I found a way out of it at a fairly early age (18). My approach was ... paradoxically... a lack of care. I just started giving up on dating and made a point in just having guy friends and eventually was able to use this network to (passively of course!) attract girls. I understand that it might be harder for you fue to whatever ciecumstancrs - learned behaviors, anxiety etc, but if I sound anything like you, it might be worth a try.

Again, the key is a lack of care for other peoples opinion. You have to look for friends on a trial and error basis. I was so depressed at that point that caring about others opinion was out of the picture anyway. I feel like social deficits are somewhat easy to catch up on if you use this approach, because rven if you don't care abt what other people think, socialisation is sich a powerful beast that you will unconsciously absorb what socially appropriate behavior is anyway (only applies if you are not autistic, of course- that's why resemblance to my situation is a necessity).

 

[makethepainstop]

I want every mf that thinks like this to die! Including victims! Have some self respect.
If you learned that 2+2= 4, then you can learn whatever the fuck you struggle whit.
If you got two functional legs, then you can run and exercise and be the stupid bimbo male you want to be so badly.
If you are ugly and have a horrible personality, you can practice better self care and get out of 4chsn and stop being a miserable extremist cunt!
The question is, do you have the time? Do you have the money?
Maybe not, maybe you don't have those and those invalidste your plan, but for god's sake, unless you're retarded to the point you can't even tell me you're retarded, don't blame your genetics you stupid bastard! Wtf are you doing.
Then you're so miserable, you start being a fucking crab that push others to the end of the bucket! I will not say anything more, because i still don't want to get banned.
For some reason or the other, society pushed you down and what do you do, you say your very essence is flawed?

Noone is totally undesirable unless they really try to be. Dude, chill!

 

[hopeless302]

I want every mf that thinks like this to die! Including victims! Have some self respect.
If you learned that 2+2= 4, then you can learn whatever the fuck you struggle whit.
If you got two functional legs, then you can run and exercise and be the stupid bimbo male you want to be so badly.
If you are ugly and have a horrible personality, you can practice better self care and get out of 4chsn and stop being a miserable extremist cunt!
The question is, do you have the time? Do you have the money?
Maybe not, maybe you don't have those and those invalidste your plan, but for god's sake, unless you're retarded to the point you can't even tell me you're retarded, don't blame your genetics you stupid bastard! Wtf are you doing.
Then you're so miserable, you start being a fucking crab that push others to the end of the bucket! I will not say anything more, because i still don't want to get banned.
For some reason or the other, society pushed you down and what do you do, you say your very essence is flawed?

you should be banned if you think this is an appropriate way to talk to a suicidal person. I don't agree with the post either, but your response is completely unhinged lol. You need to control yourself.

 

[letmebreathe]

I thought you said a failure can... I thought you said a failure can win! It was all a lie, wasn't it?!

Whoever wrote that is either a troll or delusional or both. Life isn't so simple for anyone, we all deal with suffering to varying degree our entire lives. Stay away from 4chan and any people who get a kick out of peddling suifuel.

 

[WorthlessTrash]

Noone is totally undesirable unless they really try to be. Dude, chill!

Bestie, your argument about that was already destroyed here:. Please stop lol

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/question-for-other-ugly-men.93956/page-2

I get what you're going for, but toxic unfitting positivity is just as harmful as self deprecation.

 

[makethepainstop]

Well, if a man, woman, or anyone in-between, really wants to achieve undesirability it is easier to do, that to cultivate a pleasing or charming manner.

 

[WorthlessTrash]

Well, if a man, woman, or anyone in-between, really wants to achieve undesirability it is easier to do, that to cultivate a pleasing or charming manner.

No one "wants" to, or should want to. Some people are just doomed that way.

Several years of rejections and ghosting is a very strong indicator of not being desired, especially if not one single person panned out.

 

[makethepainstop]

No one "wants" to, or should want to. Some people are just doomed that way.

Several years of rejections and ghosting is a very strong indicator of not being desired, especially if not one single person panned out.

Damn people who hurt others for their own enjoyment. As we have to remain anonymous, I certainly can't ask for pictures.
I have never seen a dude that didn't have something hot about him. (I'm gay so since I like dudes anyway maybe that has something to do with it!)

 

[WorthlessTrash]

Damn people who hurt others for their own enjoyment. As we have to remain anonymous, I certainly can't ask for pictures.
I have never seen a dude that didn't have something hot about him. (I'm gay so since I like dudes anyway maybe that has something to do with it!)

Rejection isnt a scummy thing to do. You either like someone or you dont. No one should be forced to be interested in someone they are not into.

Yes, your sexual preferences probably do play into it. I believe (but im not 100% sure since I am not gay myself) that men who are gay are attracted to different body types than your average hetero male/female. Or maybe you're just demisexual. Idk.

 

[BornToFail]

Broski, lemme give you a real life example. Me.

I am a dude, fairly unattractive (an objective 3-4 on the 10 scale) and used to hate myself during puberty. I'm skinny asf, not all too tall and used to have stunted social development bc I used to basement dwell and study all the time. Still want to ctb, but at least not bc of this.

I empathise with you greatly as I have had the same thoughts and feelings. However, I was lucky in that I found a way out of it at a fairly early age (18). My approach was ... paradoxically... a lack of care. I just started giving up on dating and made a point in just having guy friends and eventually was able to use this network to (passively of course!) attract girls. I understand that it might be harder for you fue to whatever ciecumstancrs - learned behaviors, anxiety etc, but if I sound anything like you, it might be worth a try.

Again, the key is a lack of care for other peoples opinion. You have to look for friends on a trial and error basis. I was so depressed at that point that caring about others opinion was out of the picture anyway. I feel like social deficits are somewhat easy to catch up on if you use this approach, because rven if you don't care abt what other people think, socialisation is sich a powerful beast that you will unconsciously absorb what socially appropriate behavior is anyway (only applies if you are not autistic, of course- that's why resemblance to my situation is a necessity).

I hve atusim.

 

[GasMonkey]

We can't escape genetics.

 

[Himalayan]

I agree that self improvement is possible, but the thing everyone seems to not take into consideration is how hard it is for people to live fulfilling lives if they don't have a good foundation to build off of. Normal people have years and years of successful friendships, opportunities and experiences that they draw from and build off of that the have-nots of society just don't. Some will forever be playing catch up while everyone else naturally speeds past them. You can't just wake up one day in your 20s and 30s and just undo the decades of failure and catch up to everyone else instantly or even quickly. Looking down on someone for giving up or opting out after a lifetime of failure and being unable to play the game as well as everyone else is a shitty thing to do, especially on a suicide forum of all places.

I mean, that's true. However if you want to commit suicide you will need some level of mental health, otherwise you don't get out of bed.

 

[BornToFail]

I mean, that's true. However if you want to commit suicide you will need some level of mental health, otherwise you don't get out of bed.

Yeah, I really just posted this image because I thought it was funny. I'm doing well enough to an hero soon.

 

[deathissosad]

"wether you think you can or you cant, you're right"