This breaks my heart

[Avicii]

If your planning to go out by train then please , dont it can and has killed train drivers so sad

Train driver killed himself after witnessing a death on shift

Scott Walker struggled to cope after his train struck a suicidal person, inquest hears

www.theguardian.com

 

[JoeFailure]

Yeah, I don't want to effect someone else's life by doing this.

 

[Empty Smile]

It goes the same way for people who jump in front of cars and trucks. It will always be traumatizing for the driver of any vehicle.

I always try to consider that there is a child in the vehicle. Can you imagine what that poor kid will go through?

 

[Dreamcolleger]

I'm not trying to be funny but isn't this part and parcel of the job that this could happen at some point? Train drivers salaries gradually build up and actually reach very high amounts later on in the career. I just think it's a low skill job that offers the opportunity to make a lot of money but you have to risk potentially dealing with this at some point.

 

[Lush_nova]

someone once said to me if inreally wanted to die i would have stepped out in front of a lorry that was driving past me (at less yhen 30mph can i add)...
this article is why I wouldnt do that.... affecting some strangers life on a choice I make is in my eyes selfish.

 

[alizee]

I do think if the only method a person can go through with is by being hit by train they should care more about themselves and let nothing hold them back. I feel sad for the train driver obviously. The driver could have been considering suicide well before the incident but maybe not (who can know). Only the family would ever be likely to know and sometimes even they are left in the dark. Similar to whatever suicide method there is always the possibility the person discovering you will commit suicide because of the event.

 

[Alec]

If your planning to go out by train then please , dont it can and has killed train drivers so sad

Train driver killed himself after witnessing a death on shift

Scott Walker struggled to cope after his train struck a suicidal person, inquest hears

www.theguardian.com

Ok I get why you are saying this but there were millions of suicides by train and you just read one story of a one driver that killed himself afterwards. Saying don't do this because he killed himself too can be said about literally every suicide method. "Don't hang yourself because the person who fabricated the rope can kill themselves after finding out what it was used for" "don't kill yourself by drugs because manufacturers can kill themselves because of it". We can't take responsibility what people do when we decide to leave this world, it's our lives, it's our bodies, it's our right. Blaming death of others on us because we didn't want to suffer anymore is just wrong and illogical. It was the drivers choice, no body else's.

 

[Tortured_empath]

Ok I get why you are saying this but there were millions of suicides by train and you just read one story of a one driver that killed himself afterwards. Saying don't do this because he killed himself too can be said about literally every suicide method. "Don't hang yourself because the person who fabricated the rope can kill themselves after finding out what it was used for" "don't kill yourself by drugs because manufacturers can kill themselves because of it". We can't take responsibility what people do when we decide to leave this world, it's our lives, it's our bodies, it's our right. Blaming death of others on us because we didn't want to suffer anymore is just wrong and illogical. It was the drivers choice, no body else's.

This is representative of the pain a lot of other train drivers must've also felt. For every story like this you hear, expect a 1000 other train drivers who have been horribly traumatized for life, but haven't killed themselves.

Your comparison dosen't make sense. Rope/medicine manufacturers don't actively get confronted with the death they are responsible for. These guys are literally behind the steering wheel as they watch someone get decimated on their watch. Imagine the shock and horror of knowing you indirectly took someones life; suicidal or not.

We can't control what others do, but we can have the human decency to minimize the trauma others are faced with to our best extent.

 

[Alec]

This is representative of the pain a lot of other train drivers must've also felt. For every story like this you hear, expect a 1000 other train drivers who have been horribly traumatized for life, but haven't killed themselves.

Your comparison dosen't make sense. Rope manufacturers don't actively get confronted with said death. These guys are literally behind the steering wheel as they watch someone get decimated on their watch. Imagine the shock. Imagine blood. Imagine the horror of knowing you indirectly took someones life; suicidal or not .

But that's the thing, they didn't TAKE their life. The person killed themself, that's person took their life, not the train driver. But I do see what you mean by having witnesses it all, it can mess you up real bad.

 

[Lrdhlpme]

I'm not trying to be funny but isn't this part and parcel of the job that this could happen at some point? Train drivers salaries gradually build up and actually reach very high amounts later on in the career. I just think it's a low skill job that offers the opportunity to make a lot of money but you have to risk potentially dealing with this at some point.

That's a cope out to excuse yourself from guilt, sorry

 

[bluesky1972-2019]

I'm a believer that you have the absolute right to do what you want with your own life. If you choose to ctb then this should not involve anyone else.

But obviously people who are in the state of mind to ctb aren't always in a fit state to consider others at that point in time.

 

[Tortured_empath]

But that's the thing, they didn't TAKE their life. The person killed themself, that's person took their life, not the train driver. But I do see what you mean by having witnesses it all, it can mess you up real bad.

You're right when considering this rationally, but I think you undererstimate the guilt/trauma one feels after something like this. Feelings like this aren't always rational.

 

[Alchemist]

It's a bit of a jerk move since it messes the day for many, but it is done out of desperation. The blame is on society that makes the means to die with dignity so people are forced to use gruesome methods.

 

[Soul]

I'm not trying to be funny but isn't this part and parcel of the job that this could happen at some point? Train drivers salaries gradually build up and actually reach very high amounts later on in the career. I just think it's a low skill job that offers the opportunity to make a lot of money but you have to risk potentially dealing with this at some point.

I read an article about the impact of suicides on German train drivers. The rate of train suicides there is so high that every driver has to expect to hit at least one or two during his/her career.

For me it's not okay to involve anyone else in my death. I'm not even sure I feel at ease with involving a death-with-dignity professional. But that's just me, and apparently train drivers - like bartenders, forest rangers and a bunch of other professions - need to realise that this is part of what their job may entail.

Here's that article:

Rail Suicide: A Train Driver Struggles with Lives Taken

Each year in Germany, 800 people throw themselves in front of speeding trains, transforming the drivers into involuntary killers. Stephan Kniest has run over four people so far in his career - and fears that a fifth could do him in.

m.spiegel.de

 

[TimeToDie]

The blame is on society that makes the means to die with dignity so people are forced to use gruesome methods.

One could even argue that this death by train was the result of the UK's virtual ban on guns. In the US most suicides are by gun, and if one can get a gun they're much less likely to resort to death by train. Such as in Japan where there are virtually no guns and suicidal folks instead step in front of commuter trains.

Regarding German suicides by train, a German told me of his thoughts of suicide with a rental gun on a gun range but he noted that they "watch you like a hawk." I hear that many gun ranges in the US will only rent you a gun if you bring your own gun or have someone one with you. A range I used to use had at least 2 suicides.

 

[Oblivion Lover]

Okay, you can call me cold hearted, but I just don't understand how a person can become traumatized to the point of suicide over the accidental death of a person they didn't even knew. it wasn't his fault, damn, and it's not like it's an uncommon occurrence. I mean, over 2500 people kill themselves every day! That's more than 1 million of successful suicides every year! It's not like he could do anything about it. It's sad? Yes, of course it is, but killing yourself over it is a behavior I will never understand. Anyway, it's a very tragic story. I hope his family can find a way to be happy and have some peace.