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Heavenbound

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I have been feeling more and more suicidal these past few weeks. I know the reasons why, and I feel like if I could get back into therapy, it might help somewhat. It won't solve the problem, but maybe it would help me deal with things better than I am currently. The problem is, I haven't been able to find a therapist that accepts my (basically worthless) health insurance, nor am I able to pay cash at this time. I have contacted several community organizations, and they either aren't taking new clients or I don't meet the requirements. It's absolutely infuriating. I really am in a dark place right now. Today has been really difficult. About the only thing I can do is have myself admitted. The problem with that is, where I am, you aren't taken to a mental hospital because there isn't one. It's basically a facility where they send the suicidal, drug addicts and similar people. You are "under observation" for 3 days by people who don't have mental health training. You won't see a doctor, won't be given any medication, won't receive any counseling of any kind- just basically be a prisoner.
This doesn't solve anything.
What I'm trying to say is that if people could have access to affordable (or free) mental healthcare, maybe there wouldn't be so many people feeling suicidal.
It's absolutely sickening.
 
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This might sound like an alien idea, but some friends of mine have reported that ChatGPT makes for a decently capable therapist. The text interface is clunkier than talking to a therapist in person, but it's far cheaper, and (probably?) won't call the cops to have you sectioned. And, let's face it, GPT is already as effective at listening as the average human therapist; it's a shockingly low bar to meet.
 
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I have been feeling more and more suicidal these past few weeks. I know the reasons why, and I feel like if I could get back into therapy, it might help somewhat. It won't solve the problem, but maybe it would help me deal with things better than I am currently. The problem is, I haven't been able to find a therapist that accepts my (basically worthless) health insurance, nor am I able to pay cash at this time. I have contacted several community organizations, and they either aren't taking new clients or I don't meet the requirements. It's absolutely infuriating. I really am in a dark place right now. Today has been really difficult. About the only thing I can do is have myself admitted. The problem with that is, where I am, you aren't taken to a mental hospital because there isn't one. It's basically a facility where they send the suicidal, drug addicts and similar people. You are "under observation" for 3 days by people who don't have mental health training. You won't see a doctor, won't be given any medication, won't receive any counseling of any kind- just basically be a prisoner.
This doesn't solve anything.
What I'm trying to say is that if people could have access to affordable (or free) mental healthcare, maybe there wouldn't be so many people feeling suicidal.
It's absolutely sickening.
I can't promise I have all the answers you want, but I'm happy to listen and try if you need someone to talk to about everything. Sorry to hear you're struggling and available help is so limited. Been there before and know that feeling too well.
 
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Apr 15, 2023
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I have been feeling more and more suicidal these past few weeks. I know the reasons why, and I feel like if I could get back into therapy, it might help somewhat. It won't solve the problem, but maybe it would help me deal with things better than I am currently. The problem is, I haven't been able to find a therapist that accepts my (basically worthless) health insurance, nor am I able to pay cash at this time. I have contacted several community organizations, and they either aren't taking new clients or I don't meet the requirements. It's absolutely infuriating. I really am in a dark place right now. Today has been really difficult. About the only thing I can do is have myself admitted. The problem with that is, where I am, you aren't taken to a mental hospital because there isn't one. It's basically a facility where they send the suicidal, drug addicts and similar people. You are "under observation" for 3 days by people who don't have mental health training. You won't see a doctor, won't be given any medication, won't receive any counseling of any kind- just basically be a prisoner.
This doesn't solve anything.
What I'm trying to say is that if people could have access to affordable (or free) mental healthcare, maybe there wouldn't be so many people feeling suicidal.
It's absolutely sickening.
i'm so sorry for you having to deal with all of this bureaucracy at such a hard time
my country has a free emergency hotline (and online chat) for suicidal people, it's not a weekly therapy session but it can help greatly at a crisis moment
it's done loads for me when i needed it the most
they're not doctors, but are well-trained volunteers that deal with suicidal situations
maybe you can use google translate? i'm really not sure but i think the online chat is available in any country
it's called CVV and it's from Brazil (type brasil with an S when searching), it's free and maybe with translation it can help you
 
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Thank you all for your kind answers, suggestions, and support. I've been noticing a lot of hatefulness on this site lately, and your kind words have given me a slight spark of hope.

I will say that I have been doing a great deal of searching and I think I may have found a suitable therapist that will accept my insurance, I may or may not be able to see them if the copay is too much because like with most people, money is so tight right now. I have to take this from my grocery allowance, and that's ok because I need to loose weight anyway…and my mental health is important to me.
So, fingers crossed, I will be able to get an appointment with this therapist.

Again, thank you all for your kind words. I truly appreciate it.
 
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This might sound like an alien idea, but some friends of mine have reported that ChatGPT makes for a decently capable therapist. The text interface is clunkier than talking to a therapist in person, but it's far cheaper, and (probably?) won't call the cops to have you sectioned. And, let's face it, GPT is already as effective at listening as the average human therapist; it's a shockingly low bar to meet.
I completely agree with this. ChatGPT continues to write with empathy no matter how long my triggers remain for. There is no therapist (who'll make you leave after an hour) or hotline (same deal) that will do that

For that reason ChatGPT is far superior. It was willing to talk for 3 hours about an optical illusion I saw which triggered me. I was able to just write over and over, "write more comforting things please," while it talked about optical illusions as if they were one of the top issues plaguing humanity.

It was able to talk about it judgement free with as much compassion as I promoted long enough for my traumatized brain to stop fixating.

It was so kind and freeing. It brought me out of a very dark place. It made me want to write things and read books instead of sleeping 17 hours a day.

Now I haven't been talking to it but I will if I ever need it.
 
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phantomime

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Feb 9, 2023
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i'm so sorry for you having to deal with all of this bureaucracy at such a hard time
my country has a free emergency hotline (and online chat) for suicidal people, it's not a weekly therapy session but it can help greatly at a crisis moment
it's done loads for me when i needed it the most
they're not doctors, but are well-trained volunteers that deal with suicidal situations
maybe you can use google translate? i'm really not sure but i think the online chat is available in any country
it's called CVV and it's from Brazil (type brasil with an S when searching), it's free and maybe with translation it can help you
Does the CVV even fucking work?
Last time I tried calling, I was left hanging. When I tried chat, I kid you not, I was ignored and left hanging again. To me, they don't take it seriously. I was left hanging TWICE when I needed them most.
 
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parader

parader

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Apr 15, 2023
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Does the CVV even fucking work?
Last time I tried calling, I was left hanging. When I tried chat, I kid you not, I was ignored and left hanging again. To me, they don't take it seriously. I was left hanging TWICE when I needed them most.
i only tried it once, it was the online chat bc i hate phone calls
it worked that time, and the person i talked to dealt pretty well with the situation i was in :/
there's a waiting line of course, i waited for 10min i guess but chatted for almost an hour after that
guess i was lucky, i know at least 2 people who used it at least twice but i don't know how long they had to wait for that
maybe there's a shortage of volunteers? as far as i know they're all trained volunteers
i know it should be faster as it's an emergency hotline, i'm truly sorry they failed you when you needed it so much
relying on volunteer work is far from ideal, we should have better support
 
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