There is no "best method"

[quietwhisper]

We should just come to terms with this fact... there is no best method. Any method has a chance of not working.
My belief... when you attempt and it works; it was meant to be. It was your time. If you attempt and it doesn't work; it just wasn't your time.

Any method seems scary, and any method is not going to be painless or have you just slip into the abyss and leave this place. If you find a method that you want to try, do it. I've thought of a couple different methods, I just need to pick the right one for me. I wonder every day what it might be like once I do this. It's scary, not going to lie. It's scary not knowing.

I do know that I will rent a hotel room so that I'm not home. Rent it and leave for the day.

I do try every day to find the good and the positive in staying. But life just keeps knocking me down. I've always had a general feeling of not belonging in this world for as long as I can remember. Never really finding my place... or the right fit. Just going through life winging it. I'm tired and I'm ready to leave this rock behind.

So, I say this to you. You do you... do what you feel is right.

 

[Withered]

Fr. I hate the ignorant posts asking "what is the most foolproof painless ctb method ever"

 

[Sunshine]

With research and smart planning you can narrow down certain death to probably 99,9% with only miracles being able to intervene.
If you book a hotel for a few nights or go to a very, very secluded area deep into nature and inject Fentanyl or pure Heroin (you can test it before with kits) with a drip bag, how is that supposed to go wrong? Unless someone just barges into your room or you developed a miracle immunity to the drug.

 

[quietwoods]

With research and smart planning you can narrow down certain death to probably 99,9% with only miracles being able to intervene.
If you book a hotel for a few nights or go to a very, very secluded area deep into nature and inject Fentanyl or pure Heroin (you can test it before with kits) with a drip bag, how is that supposed to go wrong? Unless someone just barges into your room or you developed a miracle immunity to the drug.

I think they mean there is no perfect universal method. It used to be Nembutal, but those days are over.

Yeah, I agree research is important and necessary and get tired of people wanting others to do the work for them, but the method described above is problematic.

It's the way I would like to go, very peaceful, but it has a number of issues that would make it far from a 99.9% method for the average person. Navigating sketchy sources, possibly needing connections, technical/social skills, and being physically able to inject something into yourself (the needle wouldn't even get near my skin before I faint).

 

[Sunshine]

I think they mean there is no perfect universal method. It used to be Nembutal, but those days are over.

Yeah, I agree research is important and necessary and get tired of people wanting others to do the work for them, but the method described above is problematic.

It's the way I would like to go, very peaceful, but it has a number of issues that would make it far from a 99.9% method for the average person. Navigating sketchy sources, possibly needing connections, technical/social skills, and being physically able to inject something into yourself (the needle wouldn't even get near my skin before I faint).

1. Buy a purity drug test kit online for Heroin (can find them as cheap as 10€)
2. read a tutorial online how to access the dark web and order (I managed to do despite being not being internet or tech savy) and if that fails, go outside and literally ask around homeless people who all have plugs... give them a few dollars or euro as a thanks and get them talking
3. practice using a syringe and injecting (can buy this cheap from amazon)
4. buy a drip bag & watch some simple youtube videos how to set it u p

Now the person goes super deep into nature on a hike where you won't see a soul for days or week.
Or they book a hotel room for a few nights. In the middle of the night, silently they start.
No dramatic posts online, no calls to people, they sit down with their pure H or Fentanyl, put the drip bag and inject it, even if you pass out the bag will do the rest.

This isn't very complicated and everyone with a few weeks or months of research can pull this off.

 

[quietwoods]

1. Buy a purity drug test kit online for Heroin (can find them as cheap as 10€)
2. read a tutorial online how to access the dark web and order (I managed to do despite being not being internet or tech savy) and if that fails, go outside and literally ask around homeless people who all have plugs... give them a few dollars or euro as a thanks and get them talking
3. practice using a syringe and injecting (can buy this cheap from amazon)
4. buy a drip bag & watch some simple youtube videos how to set it u p

Now the person goes super deep into nature on a hike where you won't see a soul for days or week.
Or they book a hotel room for a few nights. In the middle of the night, silently they start.
No dramatic posts online, no calls to people, they sit down with their pure H or Fentanyl, put the drip bag and inject it, even if you pass out the bag will do the rest.

This isn't very complicated and everyone with a few weeks or months of research can pull this off.

Again, some people don't have the technical /social skills for doing this or physically cannot inject themselves.

Just because something works for you easily doesn't mean it's a universal constant.

 

[Sunshine]

Again, some people don't have the technical /social skills for doing this or physically cannot inject themselves.

Just because something works for you easily doesn't mean it's a universal constant.

That's fine. But they don't really want to die that badly then if reading a darkweb guide for 5 minutes or putting a syringe into your arm is "too much" and they would rather just keep yelling about wanting to die on the internet.

 

[quietwoods]

That's fine. But they don't really want to die that badly then if reading a darkweb guide for 5 minutes or putting a syringe into your arm is "too much" and they would rather just keep yelling about wanting to die on the internet.

Check out vasovagal syncope, may be informative. Occurs with needles as well and is a very common disorder.

 

[Sunshine]

Check out vasovagal syncope, may be informative. Occurs with needles as well and is a very common disorder.

Well, you can take benzos for that, no? Benzos work fantastic on anxiety from my own experience.

But even if that didn't work, you can also take Heroin or Fentanyl in other ways if the needle fear is too much. Sounds gross but up the bum is a very effective option (when a drug is "plugged" it absorbs into the bloodstream much faster) or take it orally, for the latter you will need a higher dosage unless you get Fentanyl in which case even 1 pill can kill you. Of course with no tolerance if one isn't an addict and tested their drugs for purity.

 

[quietwoods]

Sounds gross but up the bum is a very effective option (when a drug is "plugged" it absorbs into the bloodstream much faster)

Peaceful
Reliable
Maximum pleasure

Well, checks all my boxes

 

[wyo777]

I think they mean there is no perfect universal method. It used to be Nembutal, but those days are over.

Yeah, I agree research is important and necessary and get tired of people wanting others to do the work for them, but the method described above is problematic.

It's the way I would like to go, very peaceful, but it has a number of issues that would make it far from a 99.9% method for the average person. Navigating sketchy sources, possibly needing connections, technical/social skills, and being physically able to inject something into yourself (the needle wouldn't even get near my skin before I faint).

Why are you stating that N days are over? Have You been in Peru or Mexico?
The days when You was able to buy it by internet are over, that's true.
It is not such an easy as ordering a pizza, but is still possible. You have to travel to one of those contries, it is an only way.

 

[dearlydeparted44]

I guess one just makes the best of what they have. Kate Spade caught the bus with a scarf. There are people on here skeptical of a firearm while trying to play junior chemist with stuff that will only get them put in the hospital and a hole in their stomachs, at best. Do research and make the best use of what you have. NO, there aren't any 'painless, foolproof' methods available to the masses.

 

[quietwoods]

Why are you stating that N days are over? Have You been in Peru or Mexico?
The days when You was able to buy it by internet are over, that's true.
It is not such an easy as ordering a pizza, but is still possible. You have to travel to one of those contries, it is an only way.

Despite what the PPH claims, almost no veterinarians will sell N to you directly in Mexico, Peru, and Bolivia or any other SA country. It's been cracked down on heavily by the governments as a flood of foreigners have come and died that way.

The shopkeepers don't want to lose their livelihoods over a relatively small amount of money.

If you don't believe me, search people's recent experiences in the past year. I was planning an extensive trip down there for N until I researched experiences.

They overwhelming majority were rejected everywhere they went, with a small handful getting N only by going to very sketchy areas, having a connection, or straight up just getting lucky in non-repeatable circumstances.

 

[Withered]

I think this is the most off-topic, antithetical discussion I have seen on this site. This thread is about how there is no perfect method, and somehow people are debating the effectiveness and accessibility of methods. This is literally what OP was disapproving.

Mods should lock this.

 

[wyo777]

Despite what the PPH claims, almost no veterinarians will sell N to you directly in Mexico, Peru, and Bolivia or any other SA country. It's been cracked down on heavily by the governments as a flood of foreigners have come and died that way.

The shopkeepers don't want to lose their livelihoods over a relatively small amount of money.

If you don't believe me, search people's recent experiences in the past year. I was planning an extensive trip down there for N until I researched experiences.

They overwhelming majority were rejected everywhere they went, with a small handful getting N only by going to very sketchy areas, having a connection, or straight up just getting lucky in non-repeatable circumstances.

So you have to make researches one more time, i have been there. Check my thrrads from one year ago.

 

[quietwoods]

So you have to make researches one more time, i have been there. Check my thrrads from one year ago.

Can't check your threads, profile is private.

And it's been in the last year. I saw a lot of successes in 2024, but pretty much every 2025 has been "I got screamed at by a shopkeeper to 'get out' in Cusco" times 30

 

[wyo777]

Can't check your threads, profile is private.

And it's been in the last year. I saw a lot of successes in 2024, but pretty much every 2025 has been "I got screamed at by a shopkeeper to 'get out' in Cusco" times 30

If You will click on my( any nickname) then you can click on messages. I think private profile got nothing do do with that. Anyway, yes you are correct, agrovet times are finished now. Even if not, then Cusco actually is very bad place to look for it. It is a touristic city, the chances are much more higher in small cities, Ica for example. There are still other ways beside agrovets.

 

[quietwoods]

If You will click on my( any nickname) then you can click on messages. I think private profile got nothing do do with that. Anyway, yes you are correct, agrovet times are finished now. Even if not, then Cusco actually is very bad place to look for it. It is a touristic city, the chances are much more higher in small cities, Ica for example. There are still other ways beside agrovets.

Some platforms don't allow you to click on messages. But I did find your posts through the search function.

No offense, but kinda sounds like you got lucky/found some kind of connection. I've contemplated going even with all the negative reports I've seen so far, but it's a tough decision. Easy way to blow a lot of money for no real return.

 

[wyo777]

Some platforms don't allow you to click on messages. But I did find your posts through the search function.

No offense, but kinda sounds like you got lucky/found some kind of connection. I've contemplated going even with all the negative reports I've seen so far, but it's a tough decision. Easy way to blow a lot of money for no real return.

Yes, i think we was quite lucky. But per this time when i have been there i met couple people who stated that they also can provide it, everything depends where you are looking. And yes, it is always a risk.

 

[Forveleth]

Fr. I hate the ignorant posts asking "what is the most foolproof painless ctb method ever"

Yo, some people do not know this. It is not there fault. This site exists to inform. Why are you angry when the uniformed show up and ask questions?

I like the think of methods as existing in a triangle with the three points being "painless/peaceful", "easy/accessible", and "fast". You get to put a dot in the triangle wherever you want. Move it towards one of the points, it gets further from the other two. You have to prioritize what you are comfortable with because you can never have all three.