There are no safe spaces for suicidal people to talk it was inevitable Sanctioned Suicide came into existence

[FireFox]

The reality is there are no safe spaces for suicidal people to talk without being judged, hated and hounded.

1) Talk to family or friends there is a high risk you will be called "selfish", "weak" and met with complete hostility. If you come from a religious family like mine you will told "you are going hell".

If you are from an Immigrant family like mine you will be subject to a lecture about how hard life is in your parents home country and to be "grateful". My mum once said to me " you have food, a bed and a British passport why are you worried about the future"

This is what i was raised to believe which is why I will never tell my family I am suicidal.

2) Tell the Dr or therapist it will come with consequences depending what country you are in

3) Online communities. On reddit there is a lot of censorship over what you can or can not post. Moderators are quite overzealous in enforcing the rules.

I have used online mental health spaces in the past and I have been judged. I used to use a UK based online depression community called dealing with depression and the moderator reacted hostility to my views on mental health awareness being unhelpful. The same moderator allowed her members to gang up and bully me at my most vunlerable during the Covid19 pandemic. When i tried to defend myself I was seen as the agressive one.

Other online mental health spaces also have strict rules on what you can or can't post. Another community i used removed my comment because I mentioned i used to cut myself.

There are NO safe spaces for suicidal people to talk freely this has created conditions for sanctioned suicide to grow. People say if we allow people to talk about suicide it will encourage suicide but the reality is if you censor conversation about suicide and push it far down the ground people will seek out communities where they are not judged.

 

[starboy2k]

Basically suicide is the "forbidden fruit" we aren't supposed to indulge in, but history has proven one too many times that the more forbidden something is….the more people will want it. I agree 100%.

 

[curiousbeing]

yes. This community is so kind and life-saving actually. Because People here understand. We don't feel all alone

 

[quins]

"Safe spaces" . . . I've seen this term thrown around pejoratively on the "younger" internet, but I never thought anyone would take it seriously... I'd perhaps thought of this place as more "utility-oriented" in its configuration, but even now I see users with thousands of posts, a "slow and drawn out" death if you will. I hope that I cap myself at around... say, two-hundred? or less? far, far less?

 

[Unbearable Mr. Bear]

SaSu will always exist, in one form or another, with different names, perhaps, because people dissatisfied with how life is will seek for connection, and they will find it, and they will form a community. That's just how humans work, we are social animals.

The only way to erase SaSu for good is to eradicate suffering.

"Safe spaces" . . . I've seen this term thrown around pejoratively on the "younger" internet, but I never thought anyone would take it seriously... I'd perhaps thought of this place as more "utility-oriented" in its configuration, but even now I see users with thousands of posts, a "slow and drawn out" death if you will. I hope that I cap myself at around... say, two-hundred? or less? far, far less?

Hey! I've been here for like a month and already have 350+ posts. Don't judge an user by its postcount.

 

[FireFox]

"Safe spaces" . . . I've seen this term thrown around pejoratively on the "younger" internet, but I never thought anyone would take it seriously... I'd perhaps thought of this place as more "utility-oriented" in its configuration, but even now I see users with thousands of posts, a "slow and drawn out" death if you will. I hope that I cap myself at around... say, two-hundred? or less? far, far less?

@quins I couldn't find a better word.

 

[Unbearable Mr. Bear]

@quins I couldn't find a better word.

I believe this is a safe-space for us, or at least a safer-space. Many of us, when they feel safe, are allowed to depressure and usually form connections better, which allows for friendships. Not everyone is here for that, but SaSu has quite a few memebers that are here because it makes them feel connected, not just help CTBing.

If anything, mama bear wants to make everyone here feel safe about themselves and what they want to do. Mama's always trying her best to help her many cubs. Everyone deserves love.

 

[curiousbeing]

SaSu will always exist, in one form or another, with different names, perhaps, because people dissatisfied with how life is will seek for connection, and they will find it, and they will form a community.

This is only place I truly feel belonged to

 

[FireFox]

I believe this is a safe-space for us, or at least a safer-space. Many of us, when they feel safe, are allowed to depressure and usually form connections better, which allows for friendships. Not everyone is here for that, but SaSu has quite a few memebers that are here because it makes them feel connected, not just help CTBing.

If anything, mama bear wants to make everyone here feel safe about themselves and what they want to do. Mama's always trying her best to help her many cubs. Everyone deserves love.

>If anything, mama bear wants to make everyone here feel safe about themselves and what they want to do. Mama's always trying her best to help her many cubs. Everyone deserves love.

Aww I love this comment so much. We want you to feel safe too. This comment made my day.

 

[Unbearable Mr. Bear]

>If anything, mama bear wants to make everyone here feel safe about themselves and what they want to do. Mama's always trying her best to help her many cubs. Everyone deserves love.

Aww I love this comment so much. We want you to feel safe too. This comment made my day.

Don't mention it, honey. Mama's always looking for someone to comfort. So many people needing it here, and mama's always willing to part with time and effort to make all the darlings here as comfy and safe as possible. All mama bear asks in return is to be accepted and loved. *hugs and smiles*

 

[FireFox]

This is only place I truly feel belonged to

@curiousbeing Same here too. The times I was away at Sanctioned Suicide I always felt lonely and never understood why then I realised this place gave me belonging and non judgemental space l always wanted but never found elsewhere.

This is community I needed. A place where I am free to talk, express my deepest thoughts and not be judged by others or lectured by others.

 

[curiousbeing]

@curiousbeing Same here too. The times I was away at Sanctioned Suicide I always felt lonely and never understood why then I realised this place gave me belonging and non judgemental space l always wanted but never found elsewhere.

This is community I needed. A place where I am free to talk, express my deepest thoughts and not be judged by others or lectured by others.

yes. even if there is a member who doesn't feel suicidal, they still support others and not lecture others. I am tired of feeling like a little kid getting lectures from others. Age doesn't matter - I am 29 yet everyone still lectures me. I am getting tired. They get their energy and hit by lecturing others because this way they feel superior
after my last attempt failed, for a week or so I didn't hear much lecture. After that - everything continued exactly the same way they were before. Some things become worse, only few things become better

 

[Carrot]

It's an incredible forum, for the most part.

 

[FireFox]

yes. even if there is a member who doesn't feel suicidal, they still support others and not lecture others. I am tired of feeling like a little kid getting lectures from others. Age doesn't matter - I am 29 yet everyone still lectures me. I am getting tired. They get their energy and hit by lecturing others because this way they feel superior
after my last attempt failed, for a week or so I didn't hear much lecture. After that - everything continued exactly the same way they were before. Some things become worse, only few things become better

@curiousbeing What method did you use ? I never attempted suicide because I am scared of failing

Tell me about I hate it when people in my life tell me that I have my whole life ahead of me for a relationship .

At 18 I thought I will have a boyfriend that didn't happen. I thought I would meet my bf during my undergraduate years that didn't happen, I thought I would meet a man at work that didnt happen now at 28 still no man .

Its never going to happen for me anymore. I have no time anymore to wait. Its gets harder and harder in your 30s and 40s.

 

[curiousbeing]

@curiousbeing What method did you use ? I never attempted suicide because I am scared of failing

Tell me about I hate it when people in my life tell me that I have my whole life ahead of me for a relationship .

At 18 I thought I will have a boyfriend that didn't happen. I thought I would meet my bf during my undergraduate years that didn't happen, I thought I would meet a man at work that didnt happen now at 28 still no man .

Its never going to happen for me anymore. I have no time anymore to wait. Its gets harder and harder in your 30s and 40s.

My method was trying to inhale some asphyxiant like butane while inside sea. So, I would lose consciousness and be drowned. I even posted a goodbye thread. But some random people saw me before I did it and prevented me. It was awkward.

Life is horrible. I never had relationship. Noone cares and if someone enters relationship, immediately they start lecturing or acting very toxic. Better suffering from loneliness than dying in an unhappy relationship

 

[Unbearable Mr. Bear]

@curiousbeing What method did you use ? I never attempted suicide because I am scared of failing

Tell me about I hate it when people in my life tell me that I have my whole life ahead of me for a relationship .

At 18 I thought I will have a boyfriend that didn't happen. I thought I would meet my bf during my undergraduate years that didn't happen, I thought I would meet a man at work that didnt happen now at 28 still no man .

Its never going to happen for me anymore. I have no time anymore to wait. Its gets harder and harder in your 30s and 40s.

Sadly getting a relationship isn't easy, and maintaining isn't either. When I was younger I had a severely distorted view of relationships, and with time I've come to accept that most of my wants from another special someone wouldn't be fulfilled, that I needed to be patient.

Don't chase it is my tip. Let it happen naturally and you probably have less chances of getting hooked onto somebody shitty. You're worth a lot more than a broken relationship. Mama bear is sure of it, always.

 

[curiousbeing]

@curiousbeing What method did you use ? I never attempted suicide because I am scared of failing

Tell me about I hate it when people in my life tell me that I have my whole life ahead of me for a relationship .

At 18 I thought I will have a boyfriend that didn't happen. I thought I would meet my bf during my undergraduate years that didn't happen, I thought I would meet a man at work that didnt happen now at 28 still no man .

Its never going to happen for me anymore. I have no time anymore to wait. Its gets harder and harder in your 30s and 40s.

What is your method? Do you have any date when will you ctb? As for me, I think this summer I will

 

[FireFox]

Sadly getting a relationship isn't easy, and maintaining isn't either. When I was younger I had a severely distorted view of relationships, and with time I've come to accept that most of my wants from another special someone wouldn't be fulfilled, that I needed to be patient.

Don't chase it is my tip. Let it happen naturally and you probably have less chances of getting hooked onto somebody shitty. You're worth a lot more than a broken relationship. Mama bear is sure of it, always.

@Unbearable Mr. Bear Thank you so much mama bear . Right now i need a hug.

My method was trying to inhale some asphyxiant like butane while inside sea. So, I would lose consciousness and be drowned. I even posted a goodbye thread. But some random people saw me before I did it and prevented me. It was awkward.

Life is horrible. I never had relationship. Noone cares and if someone enters relationship, immediately they start lecturing or acting very toxic. Better suffering from loneliness than dying in an unhappy relationship

@curiousbeing oh my god. How did people in your life react?

What is your method? Do you have any date when will you ctb? As for me, I think this summer I will

@curiousbeing

I want to kill myself at 30 in the Autumn season.

Methods A - Sodium Nitrate or alternative poision

Method B - if I cant find A then plan B is barbecue charcoal in a tent in a far away woodland

Method C no tent or location then strong opioids

 

[Unbearable Mr. Bear]

Thank you so much mama bear . Right now i need a hug.

Come here, honey pot, mama loves big warm hugs. *big bear hug* You're a special cub and everything you love is valid. I love you so much, darling, you deserve to be happy, and mama always tries her best to make you feel this way.

 

[Throwawaysoul]

The reality is there are no safe spaces for suicidal people to talk without being judged, hated and hounded.

there is a peer based nonprofit that holds groups that lets you talk about suicide and suicidal ideations without judgement. Can't talk methods or timeframes, everything else is fair game. It's not pro-life either. They do exist in some capacity

 

[FireFox]

there is a peer based nonprofit that holds groups that lets you talk about suicide and suicidal ideations without judgement. Can't talk methods or timeframes, everything else is fair game. It's not pro-life either. They do exist in some capacity

That is really interesting. This is what i support as a model for suicidal people to talk

It's an incredible forum, for the most part.

@Carrot If only outsiders understood if there was better support for mentally ill people and more non judgemental spaces Sanctioned Suicide wouldn't exist.

It Is tragic young people especially teenagers have died from learning about the methods from this website but at the same time there was a reason why those young people chose not to talk to their parents about their struggles.

I have a good relationship with my family but don't feel comfortable talking to them if I am depressed because in the past they never listened to me and just dismissed me so I gave up. If a person doesn't reach out to their family it's for a reason.

Too many parents have poor listening skills and by the time something is wrong with their kid it's too late.

Basically suicide is the "forbidden fruit" we aren't supposed to indulge in, but history has proven one too many times that the more forbidden something is….the more people will want it. I agree 100%.

@starboy2k it's terrible teenagers have died using this website but at the same time there was a reason why their child never reached out to their parents.

the same people who try to shut this website down don't even push for measures to help people live better lives. It's hard to get treatment for mental illness, we have a toxic school bullying culture enabled by school Administrations who protect tye builles and there is too much pressure generally.

I don't see these people making effort to fix the social problems which is fuelling suicide in young people

 

[theboy]

"Safe spaces" . . . I've seen this term thrown around pejoratively on the "younger" internet, but I never thought anyone would take it seriously... I'd perhaps thought of this place as more "utility-oriented" in its configuration, but even now I see users with thousands of posts, a "slow and drawn out" death if you will. I hope that I cap myself at around... say, two-hundred? or less? far, far less?

So for you
What is a safe space?

 

[EvisceratedJester]

@quins I couldn't find a better word.

Safe-space is the correct term. Don't listen to that dude

 

[Apathy79]

Agree. The lack of censorship is what makes this place work so well. Only when it is absolutely necessary. I think "safe space" was confusing because on campus they tend to be places extremely highly censored where anything negative is blocked out, which is the opposite of here, although paradoxically that freedom to say anything is what makes it feel safe!

 

[quins]

So for you
What is a safe space?

A place like... StyleForum, possibly. I don't find the term "safe space" agreeable to my mind, though maybe in terms of a "safe neighborhood" it is such, neighborhoods which are subject to foreign forces but nonetheless still "crime-free."

 

[TAW122]

I agree, and yes, SaSu is really the only real safe space that one can speak about the topic of CTB without the worry of judgment (though there are bad actors just about any/everywhere sadly) and even in the real world, there are no real safe spaces. I'm glad SaSu exists since I've never really found a place where I can express my views without judgment, bad-faith discussions, and just unwanted, unsolicited scrutiny, often condescending and belittling.

 

[FireFox]

I agree, and yes, SaSu is really the only real safe space that one can speak about the topic of CTB without the worry of judgment (though there are bad actors just about any/everywhere sadly) and even in the real world, there are no real safe spaces. I'm glad SaSu exists since I've never really found a place where I can express my views without judgment, bad-faith discussions, and just unwanted, unsolicited scrutiny, often condescending and belittling.

@TAW122 Exactly when it comes to mental health too many people want to impose their own beliefs, judgments and self righteous attitudes.

I have even experienced people in other online mental health spaces get mad at me for not following their way.

I only ended up back here because this place gave something I wanted for a long time belonging, non judgement and friendship.

Safe-space is the correct term. Don't listen to that dude

@EvisceratedJester If I wrote non judgemental space it will be too long a title for this post.
@Unbearable Mr. Bear I want another hug I have an exam in the next couple of hours and I am scared

 

[Fall_Apart]

Sasu is more than just a safe place for people who are pro-choice. Sasu represents the breaking point that they cannot ignore forever, because if a community like this is growing more and more, it means that one day it will be possible to achieve the rights of suicidal people. In history, every great battle for rights has had to fight hard before reaching its goal, and when the false accusations of incitement to suicide fall, then they will have to deal with human beings who simply want the right to decide about their lives. Thanks to Sasu for taking the first step.

 

[Unbearable Mr. Bear]

Sasu is more than just a safe place for people who are pro-choice. Sasu represents the breaking point that they cannot ignore forever, because if a community like this is growing more and more, it means that one day it will be possible to achieve the rights of suicidal people. In history, every great battle for rights has had to fight hard before reaching its goal, and when the false accusations of incitement to suicide fall, then they will have to deal with human beings who simply want the right to decide about their lives. Thanks to Sasu for taking the first step.

SaSu wasn't the first. There have been multiple communities even back on the usenet days. Until suffering exists, places like this will exist. They want us gone, then start eradicating suffering! Maybe we'll not need SaSu on a world that treats most of its inhabitants with respect, compassion, and dare I say, humanity!

 

[Fall_Apart]

SaSu wasn't the first. There have been multiple communities even back on the usenet days. Until suffering exists, places like this will exist. They want us gone, then start eradicating suffering! Maybe we'll not need SaSu on a world that treats most of its inhabitants with respect, compassion, and dare I say, humanity!

You are right, Sasu was not the first, but now is considered the most famous in the world for the investigations that we all know, and this matters more than anything. I think they will not be able to ignore us forever.