Discussion The whole world runs of slave labor & this is why they do their utmost to prevent the humanization & acceptance of suicide as the human right to die.

[wereqryan]

While its obviously tragic, unfortunate, and unacceptable that people get pushed to the point where they have no hope and no choice but to take their own lives, its important to recognize that life is just too hard on some people who increasingly pushed into losing all of their coping and self-sustaining capacities, and therefore those people, despite the best effort from themselves and others, may be acting in their best interest in choosing to take their own life to stop being ravaged by constant pain, suffering, and trauma.

Now, we know that the all societies rely on a slave underclass to do their most hazardous, dirty, disgusting, and undignified work that progressively degrades them. Thus far, this brutal work hasn't been automated and so sustaining this class of people through oppression becomes indispensable and essential for the functioning of society. Oppression ensures that their time and their life is not of their own and so they can be compelled and coerced into participating in degrading labor while being subjected to constant pain and suffering.

Now the normalization, humanization, acceptance, and accessibility of suicide changes this equation! How? It allows the underclass to reclaim autonomy over their lives. With nothing to lose, if tomorrow slaves declared that they rather die than live in perpetual struggle, all of society will unravel and the ruling class will be overthrown, which can NEVER BE ALLOWED, and that's why preventing access to easy suicide methods is essential for society.

In fact, the ruling class has to do the opposite of normalizing suicide; they have to keep people invested in their oppressive ponzi schemes so that their lifestyle is maintained. They have to keep dangling the carrot and keep us running on the hamster wheel. Kings don't become kings without servants.

 

[kittygolem]

Yep. Saying the words "suicide" and "human right" in the same sentence will have much of the population scratching their heads, even though choosing when to die is absolutely and undeniably a fundamental human right. People will selfishly bring up their own feelings surrounding your death, or they will invalidate your experience and pretend that all issues are solvable. It's a strange analogy, but this is the same mindset as expecting society to recycle, and claiming it will fix global warming, while corporations continue to pollute our planet. It's not up to me, or any one other person for that matter, to exist in a world that hates us and is actively hostile toward us. It's our choice, full stop.

 

[wereqryan]

Yep. Saying the words "suicide" and "human right" in the same sentence will have much of the population scratching their heads, even though choosing when to die is absolutely and undeniably and fundamental human right

For that to happen, society has to accept that one's life belongs to that person alone and not to any slave-driving profit-extractor from the ruling class, and that is unthinkable for them!

 

[kittygolem]

For that to happen, society has to accept that one's life belongs to that person alone and not to any slave-driving profit-extractor from the ruling class, and that is unthinkable for them!

You're exactly right.

 

[KatalinaKrimson]

Yes, the world runs on coerced labor, but no, those corporations that require labor don't care about reducing the suicide rate. There will be labor aplenty for them regardless of how many suicidal people achieve their goal.

The simple boring rational answer is that anti-suicide people do it because they believe they are saving lives. They think that suicidal people are gripped with a temporary illness like sailors jumping into the ocean to meet sirens. They genuinely believe that nearly every suicide is a net loss for humanity. They've either never been seriously suicidal, or they have been, but were unable to complete suicide, and wound up changing their mind about wanting to kill themselves.

 

[pieceoffox]

I view death from the perspective of a person's social circle. On the one hand, death can devastate the lives and mental health of all friends and loved ones, so no one would be happy about the death of a friend or family member. However, if a person has chosen death themselves, their mental state is already so severely undermined that life itself causes them considerable suffering. In this case, one might ask: what is more important, one's own mental state or the state of their loved ones? I can unequivocally answer that the person themselves are more important. Loved ones will eventually come to terms with it and let it go, but the person lives in torment every second.