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Foresight

Foresight

Enlightened
Jun 14, 2019
1,393
My dogs are the most practical reason I'm alive, followed by the people I love. They need me and I know that. I can imagine that the people will do okay but my dogs are very attached to me. I think they would have a hard time and that's not fair to them. I think my partner would suffer badly but my mind can easily tell me that he is better off without me.

I have a burning desire to create art before I go. That's what I'm going to do. Create art and search my soul a bit more before my time is up.
 
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Ta555

Enlightened
Aug 31, 2021
1,317
Fear of pain of full suspension and to some extent fear of failure. That's mostly it.
 
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divine4u2b

divine4u2b

Member
Dec 14, 2021
15
because there are many negative consequences if someone interrupts the suicide attempt such as:

- permanent disability
- locked up in an institute and drugged like crazy without consent
- suicide is illegal in some countries
- financial costs associated with saving the suicidal person
- social issues with people avoiding the suicidal person and shaming them
You know what; I took the initial message out of context. My entire response ^^^ up above was 'only' in regards to 'when someone finds my body after I 'completed' my mission. Sorry this through everyone off. My bad. I am reading back like; dang... where did my thought process go here... Yes I agree wholeheartedly with you in regards to if someone walks up in your personal space while your ctb & ruins that moment then ultimately any of the above mentioned items you sent; definitely will or could happen. You are correct. sry 4 the confusion.
 
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Nightmare Painting

Student
Dec 16, 2021
121
I wonder why there's a lot of people bent on who / when someone will find them... personally I get a fulfilling sensation at the thought someone will find me and handle the necessary business. The part of this is.. that I do not want to pick a method that would forever traumatize anyone; that must be forced to stay here longer than me.
With this being said: I have picked between selflessly between my methods; as per not being selfish in thought that the person finding me can continue on; and not feel ultimately burned by 'MY' exit/ mode of transport per say; one domain to the next.

does this make sense? What do you all think about the mental health fragility of the one whom finds you? are you concerned enough to care? Curious on how anyone else feels.
I didn't mean that I was worried about traumatizing someone with my body; I want to be left alone a good amount of time to end my life without interference and to avoid failing.
 
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Angi

Specialist
Jan 4, 2022
305
- I am lazy and didn't finish working on my ctb plan and to do list
- I didn't finish training on my method
- I didn't finish ordering all supplies needed for my method
- I don't know where to ctb
- most important reason: I don't have the strength to rehome my dog
I am with you, especially with the last reason. Maybe you can stick around long enough so your dog will not need a new home? Life burns, every day, but today I feel brave and think I can be part of my loved one's lives for a while longer.
 
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savagepeonies

savagepeonies

Member
Dec 9, 2021
15
My brother took his life in 2016. My mom doesn't deserve to lose her only other child.
 
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Crazy4u

Crazy4u

Enlightened
Sep 29, 2021
1,318
I am with you, especially with the last reason. Maybe you can stick around long enough so your dog will not need a new home? Life burns, every day, but today I feel brave and think I can be part of my loved one's lives for a while longer.
I am trying. My dog is a young pomeranian. He is 3 years old. Pomeranians can live up to 20 years! average is 12-16 years old. It is a difficult situation.
 
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Angi

Specialist
Jan 4, 2022
305
Wow, that is a long lifespan a dog! I wish you whatever it might take to either stay with him or find him a place where he is loved!
 
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Toonloon

Toonloon

Experienced
Nov 17, 2020
253
A wife, yeah. And two dogs. I've gotten close to killing myself once since getting the dogs, but the thought of them waiting at the door for me forever like Fry's dog in Futurama was too much and I suddenly lost all motivation.
You got urself a Seymour
 
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°Celsuis_Caesar

°Celsuis_Caesar

Sanctioned Suicide is well worth a mass
Jan 10, 2022
187
I don't really know, My method was all perfect, but felt rushed and wrong, survival instinct is most likely the culprit I'm still here.
 
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Ada

Ada

Inecapably Human
Jan 14, 2022
61
The reason why I am alive is that I failed the first time. I got traumatized by my attempt, and I just can't deal with that level of panic again.
 
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Heartaches

Heartaches

Don't say a prayer for me now
May 6, 2021
270
There are 3 reasons I'm still alive:
  • I'm too lazy/anxious to buy the things for the method I want to use. I also fear I may fuck it up cause I'm bad with chemicals as I have a hard time understanding them.​
  • I have a feeling that there's nothing in the afterlife and I find that kinda sad/boring. Call me silly, but I still enjoy somethings and would be a bit hard for me to never be able to experience them. 99% cause me pain and make me feel miserable but that 1% makes me get out of my bed and push through another day.​
  • There are people I still care for and bring good to my life, I don't wanna hurt them for the rest of their lives.​
There are days where I seriously wish everything could end, feel no pain, only calmness. Sometimes I think I just want to hurt myself badly as a form of "self-punishment", I guess; I'm not sure. My mind is constantly wandering around restlessly, so it's difficult to determine my exact emotions or what I wish for my future. It's really exhausting.​
 
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Toonloon

Toonloon

Experienced
Nov 17, 2020
253
1) I don't know math. I did not chase enough whiskey with my pills for my weight.
2) I am too short to hang myself correctly. Meaning I cant tie the rope well to a high base.
3) I got interrupted in the middle of a hanging w/ a bag over my face. I tied the rope to the door and did a partial hanging. Guy walked in thought it was a kinky sex game and just fucked me. He took the bag off my head when he noticed I was about to pass out.

It's not that i dont want to die or lack "courage" it's more so I don't have the means and sheer dumb luck.
 
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moths

moths

Member
Mar 7, 2021
51
suicide is my only option. i've ruined my life beyond repair and been through things that have taken away every shred of innocence i have in me. i guess i'm just putting it off because when it comes down to it i don't want to die. in a better, kinder, more forgiving world i would still be hopeful. i can still see the beauty in the trees and the animals and in music. and there are a few things left that i want to experience. i guess since i have a method i'm just waiting until i hit complete and total rock bottom or until the moment feels right. i'm also deeply afraid of failing and ending up brain damaged to the point that i lose self awareness or no longer have the mental or physical capacity to kill myself.
 
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Mtnwildflowers

Student
Jan 14, 2022
182
Want a more peaceful means of going. The only reliable method I see is shooting myself in the head. I would rather just drink a cocktail of something and pass out peacefully
 
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orange

Experienced
Nov 19, 2021
243
I'm scared of getting scammed when buying the materials for my preferred method. It's expensive and the package might never arrive even if they do send it out, or it might not be the actual stuff.
 
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NormaJeane

NormaJeane

Member
Mar 24, 2021
648
What keeps you alive? There are so many people on Sanctioned Suicide who want to die, but are still alive. Why are you alive when you want to die? Humans have fear of death. Death is something scary. Life is the only thing we know anything about, we know nothing about death. In the same way as the clock is ticking forward, we are programmed to live. None of us would have had problems with death and suicide if we would have lived 200 years ago - at that time we would have had the opposite problem because people lived short, hard and poor lives. Most people in the society of today see nothing of human death. But if there were dead people almost everywhere in the cities and people committed suicide in front of you, would it not be easier to die?

I believe that a successful suicide requires:
- find the courage to die
- overcome the survival instinct
- a suicide method that works
- find trust in that method
- find a place to die
- a brave and determined act
- feel so bad that it is impossible to live

People are very different, some are braver than others. Are you tormented by physical or psychological pain? Sadness and sorrow usually disappear with time, but chronic physical pain, disability, broken teeth or toothlessness and age-related ailments can be worse.

I believe that none of us would be here on Sanctioned Suicide if we were tormented so much that it is impossible to live because then we would not be able to sit in front of a computer and write. The bravest people with the worst pain are already dead or so they have tried to kill themselves. But it is terrible that not everyone can get euthanasia - all people deserve a peaceful death.



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LastFlowers

LastFlowers

the haru that can read
Apr 27, 2019
2,170
I'm not afraid of death. I'm already dead, for all intents and purposes of life really.
I don't just have a lack of reasons to live, I have an abundance of reasons to die.
There has been a severe absence of balance in my life, the asymmetry is absurd and favors the negative.
It's the actual dying process that is most daunting, and my method isn't exactly instantaneous either.
If it was as simple as a button press, it would be done by now, and that is me being completely honest. As long as the button also took care of the "matters to be undertaken" pre-suicide.
But that's not why I am still "alive", I don't even think you're wrong when it comes to some people, but it doesn't always have to do with bravery or truly having no reason left to live (depending on your definition).

I know there are people out there with arguably and/or objectively less reasoning to stay alive than I possess, and yet they are still kicking..out and about in the world..logic be damned, and I also know of many people who-again, arguably-had far more reason to stay alive and yet their bodies are now set in the earth.
Not to mention..Impulsive suicides off the heels of a troubling event have less to do with bravery and more to do with an unfortunate lack of thought and impulse-control, so again, how you describe those who choose to stay and those who choose to go, is not always accurate. It's also usually far from an actual choice (because it's primarily an option born out of a lack of choices for an extended/indefinite period of time..or extreme and sudden emotional turmoil).

For me, I am holding onto the need to complete certain preparations (which includes the destruction and eliminating of things that could possibly be left behind to further complicate or humiliate me in my passing)..this has brought up many roadblocks because for much of this, I am at the mercy of other people, my most reasonable requests could set off red flags or seem unreasonable to them.
These are things that I cannot leave in a note and "hope for the best", I need to see to it that they are handled before I croak.

I have begun to freak out at the prospect of having to go through with ctb, WITHOUT the proper planning/requests/preparations being met, but I really hope it doesn't come to that, I have begged, pleaded, I don't know what else to do…it really might come to having to go ahead in a panic without any peace of mind whatsoever..that will not be pleasant, and SN is already going to be a somewhat slow and uncomfortable death. (It's the best option I have available to me and the one I feel most safe with as far as the least amount of risk for further maiming and/or brain damage..brain damage is my worst nightmare, I am pretty positive I will not be found early so I think it will be fine..it's just that one person on here claimed to have awoken from SN all on their own, watching the blue dissipate from their skin afterward..and that terrifies me..that I could be out cold for days and then wake up on my own, perhaps in need of medical assistance to even get the strength back to attempt again..and with what then…worst case scenario. As you can see, sometimes thinking too much about it can actually be a detriment..I just need this DONE, done yesterday, done years ago..Jesus.)

I also have to take care of some things on my own as well , which is a feat considering I'm too fatigued to so much as get out of bed most of the time and can't even manage to sleep properly. It's hard to have motivation to prepare for your death, when you can't even do the same for your life. It's like being asked to go to the ends of the earth for something that isn't even a consolation prize, killing yourself to kill yourself. Hilarious.

I have done a lot already, but it seems never-ending, I planned to be gone by the holidays and I was not able to do that-most notably because of the apathetic stubbornness and excuses of other people…I'm talking things I've asked of them for YEARS now, multiple times a week..and there is ALWAYS an excuse. I can't take it.
I realize now why so many people just throw their hands in the air and give up the pre-steps just to get the damn job done and end their consciousness of the suffering.
I wonder why there's a lot of people bent on who / when someone will find them... personally I get a fulfilling sensation at the thought someone will find me and handle the necessary business. The part of this is.. that I do not want to pick a method that would forever traumatize anyone; that must be forced to stay here longer than me.
With this being said: I have picked between selflessly between my methods; as per not being selfish in thought that the person finding me can continue on; and not feel ultimately burned by 'MY' exit/ mode of transport per say; one domain to the next.

does this make sense? What do you all think about the mental health fragility of the one whom finds you? are you concerned enough to care? Curious on how anyone else feels.
As someone else mentioned..an interruption can mean an absolute horror show for the person who attempted and was caused to fail. They could end up worse off than they were before they dealt themselves the death blow, because contrary to popular belief-things might not ever get better, but things can ALWAYS get worse.

For me I don't give a shit about those "forced to stay here longer than me" because these same people are benefiting from life and they don't feel "forced" to stay at all, my dead body is not going to change that, especially the way things are going..and regarding who I believe would end up finding my corpse..nobody to feel bad for in the slightest, least not from me.
I'm not blowing my brains out anyway-nothing that would leave a substantial mess, but yea. And I've given plenty of warning shots, this should be no surprise.

I'm also the type of person, who wouldn't scorn a stranger for making me find their dead body/corpse, no matter the state of it.
I would consider the torment and their reasoning before I considered my own reaction..I would almost feel as if I were stealing their pain and appropriating it as my own if I were to wrap myself up in the aftermath to the point that I made it into my own trauma.
Obviously it's different for people you are closer to, but in my case I don't have anyone that close that actually gives two shits about me or my situation, and for a death to affect you so severely, truly and genuinely..you have to give quite a few damns about the person and their relationship to you.
I don't have anyone in my life who fits that bill. It will be a mere blip on the screen for the majority of them, and nothing life-ruining or anywhere close to what I've dealt with.
They don't even have a right to be upset imo, too little too late.

On the other hand (from what you mentioned), I actually get no fulfilling sensation whatsoever from the thought of someone finding me. I don't want my body to be touched or gazed upon, I would rather it teleport to the nearest cremation chamber. Then stick my remains in the cremulator ASAP.
You know what; I took the initial message out of context. My entire response ^^^ up above was 'only' in regards to 'when someone finds my body after I 'completed' my mission. Sorry this through everyone off. My bad. I am reading back like; dang... where did my thought process go here... Yes I agree wholeheartedly with you in regards to if someone walks up in your personal space while your ctb & ruins that moment then ultimately any of the above mentioned items you sent; definitely will or could happen. You are correct. sry 4 the confusion.
Just saw this so don't mind that part of my previous response lol
 
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erdbeeren

erdbeeren

Student
Oct 13, 2021
100
What keeps you alive? There are so many people on Sanctioned Suicide who want to die, but are still alive. Why are you alive when you want to die? Humans have fear of death. Death is something scary. Life is the only thing we know anything about, we know nothing about death. In the same way as the clock is ticking forward, we are programmed to live. None of us would have had problems with death and suicide if we would have lived 200 years ago - at that time we would have had the opposite problem because people lived short, hard and poor lives. Most people in the society of today see nothing of human death. But if there were dead people almost everywhere in the cities and people committed suicide in front of you, would it not be easier to die?

I believe that a successful suicide requires:
- find the courage to die
- overcome the survival instinct
- a suicide method that works
- find trust in that method
- find a place to die
- a brave and determined act
- feel so bad that it is impossible to live

People are very different, some are braver than others. Are you tormented by physical or psychological pain? Sadness and sorrow usually disappear with time, but chronic physical pain, disability, broken teeth or toothlessness and age-related ailments can be worse.

I believe that none of us would be here on Sanctioned Suicide if we were tormented so much that it is impossible to live because then we would not be able to sit in front of a computer and write. The bravest people with the worst pain are already dead or so they have tried to kill themselves. But it is terrible that not everyone can get euthanasia - all people deserve a peaceful death.



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9BBN

9BBN

Heaven, send Hell away
Mar 29, 2021
377
Because it's a rare online community in which nobody says "kys." And no, it's not ironic.
 
angiegirl30

angiegirl30

Student
Jan 20, 2022
112
I am here for a couple of reasons. First off, I'm a chicken shit. I am afraid to die. It petrifies me. But I get into moods where that's all I want to do. I get so sick of how my life is and think I would be better off. Second of all, I have seen too much of dying and dead people that I'm pretty sure I can hold off for as long as possible. Being a healthcare worker is amazing when people get better and go home. But when they die, it f**king sucks. Especially these past 2 years. If I never had a patient code and die on me again, it would be great.
 
Gustav Hartmann

Gustav Hartmann

Enlightened
Aug 28, 2021
1,079
The question is entirely justified. If someone is here for a long time it might appear that he only wants to talk about suicide or even worse enjoys the suffering of others. On the other hand it creates kind of pear pressure: "You are here for one year now, kill yourself or leave this forum!
 
Dr Iron Arc

Dr Iron Arc

Into the Unknown
Feb 10, 2020
21,392
I'm alive because there are some games/movies/shows that I still want to experience before I die but make no mistake, I will do almost everything I can to ensure I am dead by the end of the year. The one thing I absolutely HAVE to see before I die is Jurassic World Dominion. Hopefully it doesn't get delayed again and releases properly on June 10th. Once I see it I might hang around a little more if Sonic Frontiers isn't out yet but other than that nothing else (at least nothing realistic) has any influence in keeping me alive.

There's also the insanely low probability that somehow I get a girlfriend and no longer want to die but luckily my NEET lifestyle is actively preventing that and I'm fine with keeping it that way.
 
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aristotle is ok

aristotle is ok

time to reflect & accept
Oct 11, 2021
25
My main issue right now is not having a safe place where I have personal time and where I can be 100% certain I won't be found. I have absolutely zero reason to stay now so I don't believe that survival instinct will stop me again.

I also don't agree with your post that the people with the most pain are already gone.
I am ONE example of a person who has frequent episodes (at least 2 per month) when the pain is so extreme I can barely crawl to the bathroom. I cannot figure it out, since I've had chronic pain from a broken back since 1975 . I was able, through the grace of God, to overcome that to the extent that I was a bricklayer for, off and on, about 25 yrs out of the 53 yrs since.
Through sheer stupidity, and because I knew nobody I could ask for help, I was laying pavers for 2 long walkways and steps, etc when I tried to remove a metal stake which was caught in the concrete bed. I had no sledgehammer, so I pulled up on it as I tried to rock it back and forth I suspect it caused 5 discs to slip in my neck. Typically a slipped disc slips 'outward, away from the backbone. These discs slipped into the spinal fluid column and 'bruised' and 'impinged' on the spinal cord per se. ANY contact with these thin, fragile cotton ball like fibers causes irreparable damage such that ALL fibers communicating with sensation, movement etc. are either seriously impaired or completely severed. i.e. somebody cut the power line. 12 yrs ago, when it happened I was 57 and in excellent shape. The muscles atrophied from then, mostly my right side. I've learned to cope with the disability gradually, but the damage continued. At this point I refuse to take physical therapy because 10 it hurts too much and 20 what's the point? I've never married therefore no wives and no kids. Most of my nuclear family have died) and 3) I rent a room in a large city with 144 rooms in this facility. It is only available to elderly, disabled, recovering (booze or pills etc), individuals who are or were homeless. I check all of the boxes.
Lately the pain is worse, at times, that I've experienced in my entire life...and I have lived a rough and tumble life among men who 'laugh at pa8in' ad work through pain. Real 'he men' if you get my point.
I can't figure out what causes these extreme episodes, so I can't figure out what NOT to do to prevent such episodes. They last around 2-3 days each and about 3 4 times per month.
Doctor will not prescribe anything stronger than Tramadol although what would it matter if a person becomes 'addicted' while just waiting to die anyway...at the age of 69 and this person's life would not be traumatic for (disappeared) loved ones, no kids, no job to risk, no marriage at risk etc., Therefore "Step 1 of AA and NA " we admitted we were (alcoholics, drug addicts) , that our lives had become unmanageable." Well my life wouldn't become unmanageable because 1) I have nothing to 'manage' and 2) I have social workers, medical personnel, etc in case I want to talk etc.
I HAVE THE SN, AND I FORESEE THE DAY, WITHIN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, OR WEEKS, WHEN I will take a fall, maybe break something, or I will again and again have more excruciating episodes.....
That is the time I will ctb. Meanwhile, although my handwriting is almost illegible, I have written an APOLOGY letter to the many people on staff whom I have come to love and to be loved by. ESPECIALLY TO THE PERSON OR PERSONS who will be the first to discover my dead self. It is those people whom I am most concerned about. These poor staff find bodies of residents at least once a month. It takes a terrible toll on them, and burnout is 100%..either after 2-3 years or longer, for the ones who manage somehow to "detach".....but if you ask me, I think that anybody drawn to social work, mental health and substance abuse as a career is already self selecting a cadre of workers who sincerely care about such unfortunates as those among us with these afflictions.
I wish for all of you good health, good friends, good food, good conversation, enough $ to live a humble life, and a strong spiritual foundation. If you are lacking any of these then I sympathize and empathise with you. May you walk in the path of the buddha.
I don't really believe it is true about that bravest part! Bravery or cowardnes don't apply to death as it is not a part of life or just another big decision. It is complete opposite of life and existence and hence scares every person from every era alike. Philosopers,great people and almost people from every branch of science or whatever, have always been afraid of death or non existence as we know. Just like us who are here on this forum and are open minded about suicide and its right and feel relatively less afraid and judgemental talking about this option than those who are severely brainwashed by their culture,religion,society,hyporcrisy and narcissism against Suicide.

Speaking from my personal experience and after observing people' struggles here, I can say that some of us have already reached the level of pain and suffering that would eliminate the possibility of living a life or have any hope but are still struggling with this option not because of bravery or fear in general.

When you know that this is it, that you will be forever gone from the time and space fabric, there is very little room left for feeling brave about this option. I believe it is not even rationally possible. It only happens when you are somewhat certain about atleast some part of your existence and its continuity as we know now while living! Also many only ends their life when their pain becomes too conscious to bear. Like when the life conditions or people around make it impossible for you to not experience that pain daily. Otherwise we just exist in a limbo kind of state for quite some time with sometimes feeling that suffering while other times not! Sorry for rambling too much.
that's no ramble. That's WISDOM. Thank you for posting.
 
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Fenrirsend

Student
Jul 15, 2018
106
Cause I'm trying to give living a chance.... I can get what I need, get home and back to life and gf I'll live and try my best to.

Im gonna fight as long as I can till I let the darkness swallow me..but once it does I'm done
 
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Sprite_Geist

Sprite_Geist

NULL
May 27, 2020
1,595
Not everybody who is suicidal wishes to actually die. They may just want to talk.
 
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Death is beautiful

Death is beautiful

Warlock
May 20, 2021
792
All because I'm damned unlucky even in such a case as suicide, if I had my own house and nembutal, I would accept it in the blink of an eye
 
Zzzzz

Zzzzz

Nothing compares to the bliss of death.
Aug 8, 2018
879
SI. If I really had the power to choose I would've done it a long time ago.
 
UpandDownPrincess

UpandDownPrincess

Elementalist
Dec 31, 2019
833
1.) I am alive because we had a blizzard and a snowplow operator came to clear the carefully selected parking lot I had chosen.

2.) My husband. He makes my life awesome at best and tolerable at worst. I cannot devastate him by leaving on purpose.

3.) My mental illness has been stable for a while.
 
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KuriGohan&Kamehameha

KuriGohan&Kamehameha

想死不能 - 想活不能
Nov 23, 2020
1,802
Cowardice after failing an attempt where I was caught, humiliated, and forced to spend the next day placating paramedics and police to try to get them to leave me alone.

I never want to experience that panic again, so I'm stuck in a purgatory like state where I'm no longer living, yet fear carrying out the final act, because of the bullshit other people can inflict on us when we exorcise our right to bodily autonomy.
 
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