justwannadip

justwannadip

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May 27, 2024
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Admittedly, it was a long time ago that I got to try seconal, amytal, etc. I would rank the barbs in this order.

Seconal > Nembutal > Vinylbital > Amytal > Butisol > Phenobarbital

The vast majority are much like each other. They are much the same except some have nasty side effect profiles (eg. vinylbital) but that makes them perfect for death with dignity IMHO because they are clearly more toxic, hence the toxic side effects come up. It's a shame I no longer have access to them, otherwise I'd already be dead.

If I was to compare vinylbital with something, it would have to be Tuinal...that's the only barbiturate (or should I say dual barbiturate, since Tuinal is actually two drugs) that would come closest to it.

With barbs it's not so much what they don't take away that makes them good, it's more what they don't add that makes them good. Some add nasty side effects, some don't, hence they are silky smooth eg. Seconal and Nembutal being the most gentle of the lot. Vinylbital and Amytal are nasty in that they hit very hard and are damned potent. Too potent to be really enjoyable. And don't get me started on phenobarbital, that stuff isn't great at all, it hangs around, it feels like a dirty benzo haze and I'd never bother with it. Probably not great with an O/D either since it would need dialysis to get rid of it from the system whereas most barbs would pass the kidneys very quickly.
Is there any way to access the first 3 barbs on your list anymore? Is there anywhere that you could get seconal? Also, given your experience on taking barbs, have you ever tried opioids like fent, heroin or nitazenes? Would you recommend/have any advice on ctb'ing with them?
 
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benjamind2020

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Sep 18, 2020
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A final comparison was made between pentothal acid and the sodium salt. Pentothal sodium by mouth is the quickest acting and most powerful barbiturate yet available. [...]
I have given many patients 2 grammes orally without any ill-effect.


The statements I have highlighted seem to contradict each other in my opinion.

Indeed they do, and toxicity has little to do with potency IMHO. Seconal is less toxic than Nembutal but has higher potency and is smoother in effects.

Also, Pentothal is NOT the most powerful barbiturate. Brevital (Methohexital) is absolutely the most potent and fastest acting.
Is there any way to access the first 3 barbs on your list anymore? Is there anywhere that you could get seconal? Also, given your experience on taking barbs, have you ever tried opioids like fent, heroin or nitazenes? Would you recommend/have any advice on ctb'ing with them?

No chance. They are VERY hard, if not impossible to get hold of. I accidentally threw out the vinylbital when moving to a new apartment back in 2015. If I had it believe me I know I would be able to find it. No chance, it's gone. At least as far as I'm concerned it is. Sitting in landfill. Very angry about this, and angry that I can't find a peaceful means to end it.

Nitazenes are SUPER dangerous. So is Fentanyl. Do NOT mess with these, they are unforgiving and would kill any idiot in a heartbeat.
 

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