Method The "night-night" method mega thread.

[Kooz]

Hey everyone,

Been talking to a lot of people in the chat and trying to explain this method, and one user wanted me to make a post about it, so here goes everything.

We're going after a classic idea of using a blood choke, except, it will be against ourselves. In the privacy of our own homes. In a fully relaxed state.

This method is fully capable and will kill you very fast. I know this because it's what we were taught in the Marine Corps.

First, you're going to want some Gorilla tape OR a tree ratchet.

Second, get two Sackhole/Cornhole bags.

Now, depending on what you're using, you'll want to lie on the ground and put the bags on these two exact areas on your neck (In blue).

The reason we're lying on the ground is that we want to be able not to have to fuss over putting the bags on us and making sure they don't fall out of place before we use the ratchet or the tape. You're putting the bags on these two areas to go after the internal carotid arteries.

Start cinching the ratchet closed or wrap the tape around your neck once. Is everything feeling good? I'm glad. If not, then uncinch it a little and place the bags. You want to make sure that you're not compressing the windpipe as that could cause you to freak out a little.

We want this to be painless and fast.

After you're comfortable, sit down if you want to or stand up. Do whatever you want honestly. Start wrapping the tape around your neck more and a little tighter or start closing the ratchet more.

In about 5-20 seconds you will pass out. After that, it's pretty much game over unless you somehow hit the ratchet release. That's why I said we could also use tape as well. With the gorilla tape, it will make sure that you don't inadvertently try to tear the tap off... because it will be strong as hell around your neck.

After you pass out, it will only take a few minutes, and you will be brain dead from the complete lack of blood flow to your brain.

I think I've explained this pretty well and I hope you guys understand the method. If not, please don't hesitate and I'm sure that I can help you out or someone else in the community can help you out.

 

[naia_]

I think this explains things perfectly - also the functions of partial hanging.

Now most probably the method I will go with.

Thanks a lot!!

Edit: Once I got it right, it was almost a frighteningly pleasant sensation. Gotta be quick to stop yourself in time.

 

[Battered_Seoul]

Would this work with an endless ratchet strap?

 

[JazzyWolfWhistle]

How do you use the ratchet strap? Can you post a diagram of that? How do you make the loop?

 

[Deafsn0w]

Are you sure that method is painless?

Have anyone tried this method and successfully ctb?

 

[worldexploder]

Dang that sounds pretty interesting. I'll have to look into it.

 

[Battered_Seoul]

Hey everyone,

Been talking to a lot of people in the chat and trying to explain this method, and one user wanted me to make a post about it, so here goes everything.

We're going after a classic idea of using a blood choke, except, it will be against ourselves. In the privacy of our own homes. In a fully relaxed state.

This method is fully capable and will kill you very fast. I know this because it's what we were taught in the Marine Corps.

First, you're going to want some Gorilla tape OR a tree ratchet.

Second, get two Sackhole/Cornhole bags.

Now, depending on what you're using, you'll want to lie on the ground and put the bags on these two exact areas on your neck (In blue).

The reason we're lying on the ground is that we want to be able not to have to fuss over putting the bags on us and making sure they don't fall out of place before we use the ratchet or the tape. You're putting the bags on these two areas to go after the internal carotid arteries.

Start cinching the ratchet closed or wrap the tape around your neck once. Is everything feeling good? I'm glad. If not, then uncinch it a little and place the bags. You want to make sure that you're not compressing the windpipe as that could cause you to freak out a little.

We want this to be painless and fast.

After you're comfortable, sit down if you want to or stand up. Do whatever you want honestly. Start wrapping the tape around your neck more and a little tighter or start closing the ratchet more.

In about 5-20 seconds you will pass out. After that, it's pretty much game over unless you somehow hit the ratchet release. That's why I said we could also use tape as well. With the gorilla tape, it will make sure that you don't inadvertently try to tear the tap off... because it will be strong as hell around your neck.

After you pass out, it will only take a few minutes, and you will be brain dead from the complete lack of blood flow to your brain.

I think I've explained this pretty well and I hope you guys understand the method. If not, please don't hesitate and I'm sure that I can help you out or someone else in the community can help you out.

Apologies, another question. Where is the optimum position for the ratchet lock?

 

[Battered_Seoul]

Are you sure that method is painless?

Have anyone tried this method and successfully ctb?

The ratchet strap method is advocated by Chris Docker in Five Last Acts. I played around last year and found it tricky to do standing up, but laying down first makes more sense.

This is interesting me more and more. Readily available, theoretically minimum fuss.

 

[Deafsn0w]

The ratchet strap method is advocated by Chris Docker in Five Last Acts. I played around last year and found it tricky to do standing up, but laying down first makes more sense.

This is interesting me more and more. Readily available, theoretically minimum fuss.

ok i'm gonna order ratchet and gorilla tape

 

[bigj75]

bookmarking this

 

[Battered_Seoul]

ok i'm gonna order ratchet and gorilla tape

Don't underestimate the psychological element. Ratcheting the strap requires an active will to do violence against yourself, in contrast to a more passive action such as swallowing pills. It could be hard.

 

[Prime]

Can it be done like this?

Place a bag over your head in sitting position. Take a very thin rope. And tightly wound it many circumferences around the neck. Not too tight to close the airway. Focusing more on the point just below the carotid bifurcation on the carotid quadrangle.
With the bag overhead and you gone unconscious, you will die of cerebral hypoxia.

Correct me if i am wrong

 

[Prime]

A very thin rope will apply more pressure and it will be more focused than a tape, I believe. Tape may only close the jugulars. With a thin rope, it may be swifter. I might be wrong so correct me if I am

 

[JazzyWolfWhistle]

I keep trying to squeeZe my neck but I never get the effects other people do. I just can't seem to do this.

 

[Schopenhauer]

It seems like an interesting method. I'll bookmark it for later review.

 

[Prime]

I keep trying to squeeZe my neck but I never get the effects other people do. I just can't seem to do this.

You don't have to squeeze your neck. Pull out your left hand. Sit straight. Face directly in the front. Use your thumb and the left index and middle fingers joined together to form a U shape. place your left thumb on the left side of your neck and the combination of index and middle fingers on the right side of the neck. Look for a blob that pulses. It should be a little above the adam's apple on either side of the neck. When you feel that pulse, push it inside to compress the blob. This blob is called the carotid sinus. If you do it right, you will feel dizzy and your vision will begin to fade after 5 seconds. If nothing happens in 5 seconds, you are doing it wrong. Keep experimenting till you do it right. And it works better if you have a lean and thin neck. I took around 15 minutes to find the sweet spot.

 

[JazzyWolfWhistle]

Kooz, the bags are supposed to be hands aren't they? The hands of a person who chokes you, right? So even if I can't find my carotid arterys they will press against them and kill me, right? Just the weight of them being squeezed into me will do the death work, right?

 

[ForestLove]

Hi Kooz, must we use cornhole bags in order to work? How about other materials like t-shirts etc? I don't have any wormhole bags with me..

 

[couldntthinkofaname]

@Arak

 

[wxtyubidi7y]

I bought an endless ratchet strap last year but I don't think I could bring myself to use it. For me it is psychologically easier to do partial.

 

[Metavoid]

Ok so could you hook the ratchet straps to something like a door, loop the free end around your neck with the cushions, then start pulling/walking away?

 

[Kooz]

Hi Kooz, must we use cornhole bags in order to work? How about other materials like t-shirts etc? I don't have any wormhole bags with me..

In the bathroom about to shower, the reason I chose the Cornhole bags is that they're a thick bag that has some weight and are flat.

With that said though, you can TOTALLY use whatever you want as long as it's not too light. T-shirts folded up (think like how you would pack up tshirts or socks to go camping) should work perfectly fine.

I'll post more once I can get to a computer

 

[Kooz]

Would this work with an endless ratchet strap?

It would work with an endless ratchet strap.

How do you use the ratchet strap? Can you post a diagram of that? How do you make the loop?

For a better idea of how to use it, watch this:



The best way to think about it is that the ratchet is going around your neck (with your padding), instead of the desk.

Are you sure that method is painless?

Have anyone tried this method and successfully ctb?

I can't speak for anyone else, but the method is pretty much painless. The biggest thing that might happen is that you'll feel your head "expand" a little more and feel the pressure around your neck. I've been blood choked multiple times in the Marines, and the only thing that I ever felt was the other person pressing against my neck with their arms. Then I started passing out, and I would have to tap out, or I would have been knocked out completely.

Something very important, if anyone is still kind of confused, then this video is PERFECT at what you're trying to execute. Except we're going for a little more padding to allow us to cover more ground, effectively cutting off MORE of the carotid arteries.

Apologies, another question. Where is the optimum position for the ratchet lock?

I would say that you would want to have the ratchet on the back of your neck, so the strap is in the front. So imagine that the cornhole bags or whatever is on your neck for padding has the strap directly in the middle of it. Then you can start tightening the ratchet behind your neck.

Can it be done like this?

Place a bag over your head in sitting position. Take a very thin rope. And tightly wound it many circumferences around the neck. Not too tight to close the airway. Focusing more on the point just below the carotid bifurcation on the carotid quadrangle.
With the bag overhead and you went unconscious, you will die of cerebral hypoxia.

Correct me if I am wrong

This is another thing that you can do if you want to, I won't CTB with a bag on my head though. With the blood choke, I want to pass out and have the brain have no blood at all. I want to be able to breathe perfectly fine while I start passing out and then just go from there.

Though, I will say this, cutting off oxygen and then suffocating from there will be more efficient as you're cutting off both the blood to your brain AND the Oxygen.

Don't underestimate the psychological element. Ratcheting the strap requires an active will to do violence against yourself, in contrast to a more passive action such as swallowing pills. It could be hard.

This will completely depend on the person honestly. With the ratchet method, you DO NOT even have to apply that much pressure (As stated in the video above). You can tighten it more though if you want to make sure that you know it's barely going to budge. You're still cutting off the blood flow to your brain though. You just want to make sure that the ratchet is tight enough to your liking and keeping the bags in place.

The reason I recommended both as stated before is that it will come down to personal preference. If the tape bothers your skin too much, go with the ratchet, or vise versa.

A very thin rope will apply more pressure, and it will be more focused than tape, I believe. The tape may only close the jugulars. With a thin rope, it may be swifter. I might be wrong so correct me if I am

As stated before, you just want to go with just enough or just a little over so that you start cutting off the circulation. It completely comes down to personal preference. With the ratchet or tape though, you have MORE pressure being put against the bags which will allow more pressure against the arteries.

I keep trying to squeeZe my neck but I never get the effects other people do. I just can't seem to do this.

It will just take practice to find your sweet spot. I hope that I described everything as much as possible in this update.

Kooz, the bags are supposed to be hands aren't they? The hands of a person who chokes you, right? So even if I can't find my carotid arterys they will press against them and kill me, right? Just the weight of them being squeezed into me will do the death work, right?

Exactly, or if you want to think of it differently, it's the specific parts of the arm in the linked video above.

Ok so could you hook the ratchet straps to something like a door, loop the free end around your neck with the cushions, then start pulling/walking away?

You could I guess. The way I think you're talking about it, I would personally tie it to the door and then the other part of it around my neck. Then I would be on my knees and make sure the line is straight. After that, I would lean forward.

The HUGE problem with doing that though is if it's not applying enough pressure and your body goes limp, then the padding could come loose and then you have no pressure against the arteries so it could be a failed attempt.



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I think I've covered every message so far.

 

[Donna]

Thank you so very much for making this thread .

 

[Battered_Seoul]

It would work with an endless ratchet strap.


For a better idea of how to use it, watch this:



The best way to think about it is that the ratchet is going around your neck (with your padding), instead of the desk.



I can't speak for anyone else, but the method is pretty much painless. The biggest thing that might happen is that you'll feel your head "expand" a little more and feel the pressure around your neck. I've been blood choked multiple times in the Marines, and the only thing that I ever felt was the other person pressing against my neck with their arms. Then I started passing out, and I would have to tap out, or I would have been knocked out completely.

Something very important, if anyone is still kind of confused, then this video is PERFECT at what you're trying to execute. Except we're going for a little more padding to allow us to cover more ground, effectively cutting off MORE of the carotid arteries.





I would say that you would want to have the ratchet on the back of your neck, so the strap is in the front. So imagine that the cornhole bags or whatever is on your neck for padding has the strap directly in the middle of it. Then you can start tightening the ratchet behind your neck.



This is another thing that you can do if you want to, I won't CTB with a bag on my head though. With the blood choke, I want to pass out and have the brain have no blood at all. I want to be able to breathe perfectly fine while I start passing out and then just go from there.

Though, I will say this, cutting off oxygen and then suffocating from there will be more efficient as you're cutting off both the blood to your brain AND the Oxygen.



This will completely depend on the person honestly. With the ratchet method, you DO NOT even have to apply that much pressure (As stated in the video above). You can tighten it more though if you want to make sure that you know it's barely going to budge. You're still cutting off the blood flow to your brain though. You just want to make sure that the ratchet is tight enough to your liking and keeping the bags in place.

The reason I recommended both as stated before is that it will come down to personal preference. If the tape bothers your skin too much, go with the ratchet, or vise versa.



As stated before, you just want to go with just enough or just a little over so that you start cutting off the circulation. It completely comes down to personal preference. With the ratchet or tape though, you have MORE pressure being put against the bags which will allow more pressure against the arteries.



It will just take practice to find your sweet spot. I hope that I described everything as much as possible in this update.



Exactly, or if you want to think of it differently, it's the specific parts of the arm in the linked video above.



You could I guess. The way I think you're talking about it, I would personally tie it to the door and then the other part of it around my neck. Then I would be on my knees and make sure the line is straight. After that, I would lean forward.

The HUGE problem with doing that though is if it's not applying enough pressure and your body goes limp, then the padding could come loose and then you have no pressure against the arteries so it could be a failed attempt.



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I think I've covered every message so far.

Extremely detailed; much obliged.

 

[Donna]

It's ok to cut the strap some as those straps are really long ??

 

[Battered_Seoul]

Hey everyone,

Been talking to a lot of people in the chat and trying to explain this method, and one user wanted me to make a post about it, so here goes everything.

We're going after a classic idea of using a blood choke, except, it will be against ourselves. In the privacy of our own homes. In a fully relaxed state.

This method is fully capable and will kill you very fast. I know this because it's what we were taught in the Marine Corps.

First, you're going to want some Gorilla tape OR a tree ratchet.

Second, get two Sackhole/Cornhole bags.

Now, depending on what you're using, you'll want to lie on the ground and put the bags on these two exact areas on your neck (In blue).

The reason we're lying on the ground is that we want to be able not to have to fuss over putting the bags on us and making sure they don't fall out of place before we use the ratchet or the tape. You're putting the bags on these two areas to go after the internal carotid arteries.

Start cinching the ratchet closed or wrap the tape around your neck once. Is everything feeling good? I'm glad. If not, then uncinch it a little and place the bags. You want to make sure that you're not compressing the windpipe as that could cause you to freak out a little.

We want this to be painless and fast.

After you're comfortable, sit down if you want to or stand up. Do whatever you want honestly. Start wrapping the tape around your neck more and a little tighter or start closing the ratchet more.

In about 5-20 seconds you will pass out. After that, it's pretty much game over unless you somehow hit the ratchet release. That's why I said we could also use tape as well. With the gorilla tape, it will make sure that you don't inadvertently try to tear the tap off... because it will be strong as hell around your neck.

After you pass out, it will only take a few minutes, and you will be brain dead from the complete lack of blood flow to your brain.

I think I've explained this pretty well and I hope you guys understand the method. If not, please don't hesitate and I'm sure that I can help you out or someone else in the community can help you out.

Last question, I promise. Are we laying face down when we initially start cinching the ratchet?

 

[Kooz]

It's ok to cut the strap some as those straps are really long ??

Yep! You just want to make sure that it's long enough with some extra slack to go around your neck.

Last question, I promise. Are we laying face down when we initially start cinching the ratchet?

I would do it lying on your back. Cinch it a little so that you're comfortable with the position of the padding and the ratchet itself. If the handle is getting too much in the way on the back, then sit up a little and try to cinch it from there... but do it slowly. That way you can make sure the padding is exactly where you want to. After that, you can go sit down if you want to and continue to cinch.

If you're doing it with tape, I would just recommend giving yourself enough space so that you can easily go around your neck a couple of times.

You could start the tape off one side of your neck and apply it there, then go over one bag, then the other. After you feel like they're in the proper place, then go to your favorite chair or couch and wrap the tape around a few more times, but just a little tighter.

If it takes more than 20 seconds to even feel anything, then there are a few possibilities.

1. Either you don't have the tape or ratchet tight enough.
2. The padding is in the wrong place.
3. You're blacked out and no longer having to worry about a god damn thing.

 

[Battered_Seoul]

Yep! You just want to make sure that it's long enough with some extra slack to go around your neck.



I would do it lying on your back. Cinch it a little so that you're comfortable with the position of the padding and the ratchet itself. If the handle is getting too much in the way on the back, then sit up a little and try to cinch it from there... but do it slowly. That way you can make sure the padding is exactly where you want to. After that, you can go sit down if you want to and continue to cinch.

If you're doing it with tape, I would just recommend giving yourself enough space so that you can easily go around your neck a couple of times.

You could start the tape off one side of your neck and apply it there, then go over one bag, then the other. After you feel like they're in the proper place, then go to your favorite chair or couch and wrap the tape around a few more times, but just a little tighter.

If it takes more than 20 seconds to even feel anything, then there are a few possibilities.

1. Either you don't have the tape or ratchet tight enough.
2. The padding is in the wrong place.
3. You're blacked out and no longer having to worry about a god damn thing.

Deep thanks again. Think I am secure with this in theory; now all that's left is to hilariously botch it in practice.

 

[Metavoid]

I tried this and I got a really bad pulsing headache. I don't get how y'all manage to strangle yourselves painlessly.