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ijustwishtodie

ijustwishtodie

death will be my ultimate bliss
Oct 29, 2023
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Lets dissect the life of the average person from birth to death. Firstly:

Two human beings fucked and, 9 months later, a human being has now been born. This human being cries repeatedly. Nothing else that's remarkable happens until around age 5 or 6 when the child starts going through education. For a person's entire childhood, they are forced to go school whether they want to or not up until they are 18. Whilst they are at school, they get trained to not question the current system of society and to instead "thrive" in the system instead by picking a "passionate job" that they like (i.e. become a better wage slave but they'll never use those words exactly). Note that it's almost impossible to thrive in the system but I'll get into why later. Another important thing to note during childhood is that some of the average people has held a job before they reach 18 so that they can afford some extra stuff.

After childhood is done, which btw is the best time of one's life for the average person, it's now time to go to into adulthood where things go downhill from here. The path that one can take slightly diverges here (one can go to university or do a trade or an apprenticeship etc) but the end goal is the same: being a wage slave for decades.

From here, it's just wage slavery for decades as well as giving birth to more future wage slaves, perhaps two to three future wage slaves. People have to deal with long commute times, socialising with other people, getting exhausted everyday after work and also monotony from doing the same thing for decades and decades. Whilst this is happening, people age and their body is degrading. Also, these people think that they can thrive in the system as they've been indoctrinated by society to believe that they'll thrive the system if they just try hard enough but, in actuality, they'll have to wage slave until retirement age

Lastly, the average person reaches old age and being grateful that they reached old age instead of dying earlier on. They suffer a lot from the degradation of their body and mind. They get scared over dying but... of course the human cycle ends with death. They die and the cycle continues through the wage slaves they've gave birth to.

Keep in mind that this is the life of the average person. It's possible for a life to be worse than this which incredibly scares me. Even the average life is unappealing to me so a life which is worse than the average is obviously a life that I don't want. I deserve a life better than the average, we all do. I will always be clueless as to why people crave the average life
 
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divinemistress36

divinemistress36

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Jan 1, 2024
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Peoples hormones think its cute to bring children into a world of suffering
 
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KillingPain267

Arcanist
Apr 15, 2024
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True! Thinking about such absurdity is oddly calming to me. So thank you for this calming post, hehe.
 
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ijustwishtodie

ijustwishtodie

death will be my ultimate bliss
Oct 29, 2023
3,392
Peoples hormones think its cute to bring children into a world of suffering
I wish that these hormones didn't exist as then it'd make so many people not suffer. It's annoying at how people irrationally want to procreate so that they bring people into a world full of suffering. I don't think that there is a rational reason to procreate at all
 
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divinemistress36

divinemistress36

Visionary
Jan 1, 2024
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I wish that these hormones didn't exist as then it'd make so many people not suffer. It's annoying at how people irrationally want to procreate so that they bring people into a world full of suffering. I don't think that there is a rational reason to procreate at all
Luckly the birth rate is going down in first world countries people are starting to realize this more
 
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ijustwishtodie

ijustwishtodie

death will be my ultimate bliss
Oct 29, 2023
3,392
Luckly the birth rate is going down in first world countries people are starting to realize this more
Lucky indeed. It seems like the super rich and the government are panicking a bit about this. Though I don't think the birthrate is low enough just yet
 
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sserafim

sserafim

they say it’s darkest of all before the dawn
Sep 13, 2023
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It's not even a life, just an existence. Normies aren't even living, just surviving. If I had to live like the average person, I'd rope out of spite and defiance. I'm never submitting to society. I won't become a slave to the system. I'd rather die!
 
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ijustwishtodie

ijustwishtodie

death will be my ultimate bliss
Oct 29, 2023
3,392
It's not even a life, just an existence. Normies aren't even living, just surviving. If I had to live like the average person, I'd rope out of spite and defiance. I'm never submitting to society. I won't become a slave to the system. I'd rather die!
Exactly. The average person is just merely surviving. I think that the only people who are truly living life are the neets and the super rich people. Everybody else just tries to convince themselves that their lives are good enough when they clearly aren't. I want to ctb to escape society permanently so that they can't make me their slave
 
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LaughingGoat

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Apr 11, 2024
598
Exactly. The average person is just merely surviving. I think that the only people who are truly living life are the neets and the super rich people. Everybody else just tries to convince themselves that their lives are good enough when they clearly aren't. I want to ctb to escape society permanently so that they can't make me their slave
You don't believe anyone lives a life that is purposeful to them?
 
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derpyderpins

derpyderpins

I was wrong
Sep 19, 2023
1,049
You don't believe anyone lives a life that is purposeful to them?
If they admit that life can have purpose even if you have to work some, then they aren't superior for giving up on finding meaning. Therefore, even if someone who is currently living that life tells them it has meaning, they will dismiss it as that person being dumb and brainwashed. If only that person living a meaningful life were smart enough, they'd see that putting in the work to gain a home, pursue a passion, and live with a loved one is EXACTLY what the machine wanted them to do, and they are pathetic cucks because of it.

@ijustwishtodie is a little more open minded but I think that's a pretty good summary.
 
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LaughingGoat

Mage
Apr 11, 2024
598
If they admit that life can have purpose even if you have to work some, then they aren't superior for giving up on finding meaning. Therefore, even if someone who is currently living that life tells them it has meaning, they will dismiss it as that person being dumb and brainwashed. If only that person living a meaningful life were smart enough, they'd see that putting in the work to gain a home, pursue a passion, and live with a loved one is EXACTLY what the machine wanted them to do, and they are pathetic cucks because of it.

@ijustwishtodie is a little more open minded but I think that's a pretty good summary.
That's certainly one way to think about it I suppose, to each their own.
 
derpyderpins

derpyderpins

I was wrong
Sep 19, 2023
1,049
That's certainly one way to think about it I suppose, to each their own.
I like both of them and I know they don't mean it in a bad way towards people on here but it gets tiring being passively called an idiot over and over for having a job.
 
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LaughingGoat

Mage
Apr 11, 2024
598
I like both of them and I know they don't mean it in a bad way towards people on here but it gets tiring being passively called an idiot over and over for having a job.
Yeah or the presumption that every job is a soulless capital hellscape.
 
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turbomightbegone

turbomightbegone

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Nov 13, 2023
143
I genuinely don't get how people do it tbh. Slaving away at a half-assed job just to live a barely acceptable life seems miserable. I'm a NEET as of right now and i don't want to think about what I'll eventually have to do out there. It scares me.
 
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derpyderpins

derpyderpins

I was wrong
Sep 19, 2023
1,049
I genuinely don't get how people do it tbh. Slaving away at a half-assed job just to live a barely acceptable life seems miserable. I'm a NEET as of right now and i don't want to think about what I'll eventually have to do out there. It scares me.
It sucks, but you make that part away from the job more than "barely acceptable" to try and balance it out. It's scary because it's forever. It's doing the best you can with a shitty situation, but it doesn't have to be 24/7 suffering.
 
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sserafim

sserafim

they say it’s darkest of all before the dawn
Sep 13, 2023
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If they admit that life can have purpose even if you have to work some, then they aren't superior for giving up on finding meaning. Therefore, even if someone who is currently living that life tells them it has meaning, they will dismiss it as that person being dumb and brainwashed. If only that person living a meaningful life were smart enough, they'd see that putting in the work to gain a home, pursue a passion, and live with a loved one is EXACTLY what the machine wanted them to do, and they are pathetic cucks because of it.

@ijustwishtodie is a little more open minded but I think that's a pretty good summary.
It IS exactly what the machine wants you to do though. School, college, work, career, partner, children, family, house is the life script that society expects everyone to follow. Society wants everyone to have children in order to birth the next generation of wageslaves and to have more human resources and capital for the pyramid scheme called society
 
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derpyderpins

derpyderpins

I was wrong
Sep 19, 2023
1,049
It IS exactly what the machine wants you to do though. School, college, work, career, partner, children, family, house is the life script that society expects everyone to follow. It's true
The machine is not a single entity, hate to break it to you. There's no mastermind in a dark room pulling their hair out saying "noooo, she's still a NEET! How do we stop this!??" Yes, society wants people to contribute. ANY society: capitalist, socialist, communist, hunter-gatherer - so long as there are people, they will want other people to chip in a bit. Our society is really flawed. It's not perfect. But the idea that I provide something, you provide something in exchange is not evil.
 
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sserafim

sserafim

they say it’s darkest of all before the dawn
Sep 13, 2023
8,462
The machine is not a single entity, hate to break it to you. There's no mastermind in a dark room pulling their hair out saying "noooo, she's still a NEET! How do we stop this!??" Yes, society wants people to contribute. ANY society: capitalist, socialist, communist, hunter-gatherer - so long as there are people, they will want other people to chip in a bit. Our society is really flawed. It's not perfect. But the idea that I provide something, you provide something in exchange is not evil.
I don't want to participate in or contribute to society though, and I won't contribute (just because I don't want to). Deal with it
 
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derpyderpins

I was wrong
Sep 19, 2023
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I don't want to participate in or contribute to society though, and I won't contribute (just because I don't want to). Deal with it
I've never, ever, once held that against you.

I only ask that you "deal with it" that other people don't choose the same path rather than belittling them and acting like they're useless brainwashed sheep.
Society wants everyone to have children in order to birth the next generation of wageslaves and to have more human resources and capital for the pyramid scheme called society
I never mentioned children. So if I don't have kids am I fighting the system or is the only decent way to live to be a NEET?
 
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ijustwishtodie

ijustwishtodie

death will be my ultimate bliss
Oct 29, 2023
3,392
You don't believe anyone lives a life that is purposeful to them?
I'm speaking about life from my perspective, not theirs. Of course people live lives that are meaningful to them. Some people find purpose in work and I can never comprehend how they do so as my neurotype is different from theirs but I do acknowledge that these people exist. However, when I make my posts, I make them from my perspective as I'm the main character in my life. Why should I care about whether they find their lives to be meaningful in work or not? I'm just annoyed at how they involve me in their type of life when I don't want it at all. Them having a purposeful life shouldn't mean that I should get involved in it.

I should be allowed euthanasia to escape society but I'm not hence I'm venting here
 
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LaughingGoat

Mage
Apr 11, 2024
598
I'm speaking about life from my perspective, not theirs. Of course people live lives that are meaningful to them. Some people find purpose in work and I can never comprehend how they do so as my neurotype is different from theirs but I do acknowledge that these people exist. However, when I make my posts, I make them from my perspective as I'm the main character in my life. Why should I care about whether they find their lives to be meaningful in work or not? I'm just annoyed at how they involve me in their type of life when I don't want it at all. Them having a purposeful life shouldn't mean that I should get involved in it.

I should be allowed euthanasia to escape society but I'm not hence I'm venting here
"Exactly. The average person is just merely surviving. I think that the only people who are truly living life are the neets and the super rich people. Everybody else just tries to convince themselves that their lives are good enough when they clearly aren't. I want to ctb to escape society permanently so that they can't make me their slave"

You say earlier that everyone besides the neets and super rich people are deluding themselves. How is that just a perspective on your own life. I have no issue with someone being a nihilist or saying their life is purposeless, just countering that these statements are calling everyone else delusional from an egocentric perspective. If you now say that people do live with purpose, than the earlier statement is false.
 
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UKscotty

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May 20, 2021
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But it is widely believed the last person to die of old age has already been born. Crazy to think but today's babies likely won't need to die of old age, but society will somehow have to decide how and when people die.
 
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ijustwishtodie

ijustwishtodie

death will be my ultimate bliss
Oct 29, 2023
3,392
If you now say that people do live with purpose, than the earlier statement is false.
It isn't false because I'm speaking about life from my perspective. Me believing that most people are just surviving and not living (from my perspective) isn't contradictory to me believing that they think their lives have purpose in it. Their lives are shitty from my point of view but they find purpose in their lives regardless of that. They're just trying to make the best of what they have to deal with whereas I think that their best is inadequate enough for me to want to live like them
But it is widely believed the last person to die of old age has already been born. Crazy to think but today's babies likely won't need to die of old age, but society will somehow have to decide how and when people die.
How long do you think it'd take for society to develop biological immortality? And, also, for when they do develop biological immortality, do you think that people would be allowed to choose who gets it or not or would they forcibly give everybody biological immortality?
 
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LaughingGoat

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Apr 11, 2024
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It isn't false because I'm speaking about life from my perspective. Me believing that most people are just surviving and not living (from my perspective) isn't contradictory to me believing that they think their lives have purpose in it. Their lives are shitty from my point of view but they find purpose in their lives regardless of that. They're just trying to make the best of what they have to deal with whereas I think that their best is inadequate enough for me to want to live like them
That's fair, I'm wrong. That is consistent logic from that perspective, thanks for explaining.
 
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Dr Iron Arc

Dr Iron Arc

Into the Unknown
Feb 10, 2020
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I think it's even more stupid and pathetic for those who want to chase the average existence and feel pain because they can't get it. I am only talking about myself here though.
 
babyharpseal

babyharpseal

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Jun 15, 2024
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just like how normies cant conceptualise how we feel, i think its impossible for us to understand how fucking easy it is for them. i had a few good days once bc i quit psych drugs n brain chemicals went wack, and everything was fucking incredible. if i wanted to do smth i could just DO it, it took no energy or effort or thought whatsoever. i could do everything, i could do things for 16 hours straight n still feel good. if normies can have that much energy, then no wonder they manage fulltime work then go home to cook n clean n do their hobbies. their life is on fucking baby ultra easy mode and we're on ultra hard

but im never going to have that life bc i was born with a disfigured brain, i dont have the energy n capability others do. wage slavery is so exhausting i physically cant function, if i dont ctb ill prob end up dying of malnutrition bc i didnt have the strength to eat. or ill just keep getting fired from being unable to shower regularly
 
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Unknown21

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Apr 25, 2023
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I have worked more than once. As a poor person living in the third world who was receiving the minimum salary, I am almost certain that a life like this is hell. All I was doing was just surviving, there was no time for anything, any entertainment, I was just existing and not living.
What made me surprised was that most of this segment of people were certain that their lives were difficult and that joy in them was almost non-existent, and they were still having children, having children at staggering rates.

Only the rich, those with good genes, can live a good life with as little suffering as possible.
 
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ijustwishtodie

ijustwishtodie

death will be my ultimate bliss
Oct 29, 2023
3,392
just like how normies cant conceptualise how we feel, i think its impossible for us to understand how fucking easy it is for them. i had a few good days once bc i quit psych drugs n brain chemicals went wack, and everything was fucking incredible. if i wanted to do smth i could just DO it, it took no energy or effort or thought whatsoever. i could do everything, i could do things for 16 hours straight n still feel good. if normies can have that much energy, then no wonder they manage fulltime work then go home to cook n clean n do their hobbies. their life is on fucking baby ultra easy mode and we're on ultra hard

but im never going to have that life bc i was born with a disfigured brain, i dont have the energy n capability others do. wage slavery is so exhausting i physically cant function, if i dont ctb ill prob end up dying of malnutrition bc i didnt have the strength to eat. or ill just keep getting fired from being unable to shower regularly
Is life really that easy for normies? I'm incredibly shocked. I can never understand how they have the energy to deal with all of the crap that modern life has for us. I have even seen normies complain about modern life but, if life is truly that easy for them, life simply isn't meant for me and never will be. Just like you, I have basically no energy too
 
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cryone

cryone

Student
Nov 23, 2023
183
i see life like this and find it pretty meaningless. still, i respect (even admire) the opinions of ppl who find it enjoyable.
 
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Wolf Girl

Nothing ever got better
Jun 12, 2024
45
I'm so not into the nihilism on here lol. No hate or anything, it's just that I would absolutely love to have an average life. But I can't get even the most basic things.
 
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