The funniest thread on r/SuicideWatch I have ever seen.

[Pure]

If something happens that peaks your pain, the prospect of a new season isn't even going to register to you. We're one crisis away from the end.
Also, yeah, delay but.. what then? Just delay delay delay? Play for time?

This is what I mean when I say people on this website trend towards nihilism. Many people see life as fundamentally being good with bad things happening sometimes vs most of us on this website seeing life as fundamentally bad with good things happening sometimes.
The former accepts bad things will rise again until it passes and a natural state of happiness or content is restored. Bad things are distractions, if it pops up again, they do whatever they need to do to cope with the pain until they're happy or content again. It's why religious people can go through genocides or cancer diagnosis or death of loved ones and still thank God for the good in their lives.

 

[summers]

They're normies who have no clue about how life works and have been sheltered all their life,

There are PLENTY of SS members about whom the same could be said.

 

[Pure]

What was the TV show?

BBC's In The Flesh. Great show about everyone who died in 2011 coming back to life as zombies until scientists discover a treatment that allows them to be humanish again (they cant grow old nor are they "alive" but they have their same personalities and function as regular people). The main character actually died from suicide so part of the show was just him navigating living with his family afterwards.

 

[littlelungs]

When I see comments like, "Don't you want to be alive to see [insert game/show here]?", what really gets me is that these people – while (I assume are) well-intentioned – just don't seem to understand the magnitude of what the OP must be going through to have gotten to this point in the first place. If someone's life has gotten so unbearable that they genuinely want to end it, then I doubt that something like the next season of a TV show will make them want to stick around. If it does, then that's cool, but for the most part it's just such a... idk, disconnected thing to say.

Those responses are so Reddit.

That was exactly my thought, too, lol. I wouldn't be surprised if OP has received a bunch of those automated "concerned stranger" messages with all of the usual phone numbers and platitudes that we've all heard a bazillion times. Again, if the OP decides to utilize these resources and they actually do something, then that's cool, but for lots people that's just not how it works... but nowadays it just seems to be one big competition to see who can get the magic words out first, so that they can feel better about themselves for "saving lives". It never seems to truly be about the person who's suffering and what they want – as long as other people feel good about themselves, then that's all that matters. Obviously.

 

[TheHatedOne]

There are PLENTY of SS members about whom the same could be said.

Haven't met anyone like that so far and even so, I bet they wouldn't be like those redditors.

 

[Darkmoon Queen]

This is what I mean when I say people on this website trend towards nihilism. Many people see life as fundamentally being good with bad things happening sometimes vs most of us on this website seeing life as fundamentally bad with good things happening sometimes.
The former accepts bad things will rise again until it passes and a natural state of happiness or content is restored. Bad things are distractions, if it pops up again, they do whatever they need to do to cope with the pain until they're happy or content again. It's why religious people can go through genocides or cancer diagnosis or death of loved ones and still thank God for the good in their lives.

I'll be the first to admit that I am nihilistic but I think I'm also closer to the truth.

What you're saying is correct, if people on this site had secure support networks and purpose, they wouldn't be here. It's less what happens to you and more what resources you have available to you to get through. Bad things are going to happen to everybody but as you say, most won't end up here.

I can recognise and appreciate good in my life. But the more I do it, the more false it feels because it's fleeting and meaningless. I can't live off sunsets and bathbombs and video games. I have a dearth of real meaning, I just have several attempts and big investments that go to shit. THAT isn't most people.

I suppose it is all down to distractions in the end but normal people can't seem to distinguish between support networks and purpose and a gaming franchise.

 

[summers]

Haven't met anyone like that so far and even so, I bet they wouldn't be like those redditors.

How many people on here don't have to worry about having a roof over their head, or food on their plate, regardless of their age or contribution to the household? For them, no job no problem. That's about as sheltered as you can get...

 

[Seiba]

How many people on here don't have to worry about having a roof over their head, or food on their plate, regardless of their age or contribution to the household? For them, no job no problem. That's about as sheltered as you can get...

Not really the same. There's a difference between never considering someone's perspective and just writing platitudes on a reddit suicide thread over just not being a worker inherently.

 

[TheHatedOne]

How many people on here don't have to worry about having a roof over their head, or food on their plate, regardless of their age or contribution to the household? For them, no job no problem. That's about as sheltered as you can get...

Yeah well, those people still suffer in life regardless and I was mainly referring to sheltered as in they didn't have to see the horrors of life like we do on a daily basis.

 

[FTL.Wanderer]

That's right, Disney has plenty of surprises waiting for OP!

OK, that was funny, OP, thanks. :) But I have to admit that fiction & SS are the only good things in my life. I get why seeing how their favorite series ends could be a motivator for some people to stick around.

 

[summers]

Yeah well, those people still suffer in life regardless and I was mainly referring to sheltered as in they didn't have to see the horrors of life like we do on a daily basis.

Agree 100% many ss members have been through things people couldn't imagine. Not all though. I commented in another thread about the entitlement mentality of some members.

 

[TheHatedOne]

Agree 100% many ss members have been through things people couldn't imagine. Not all though. I commented in another thread about the entitlement mentality of some members.

Again, I haven't met any like that so far so I can't really say anything about that.

 

[FTL.Wanderer]

Nobody posted the number to the suicide prevention hotline!? Shame, that one works every time.

Don't you love it when the rare article about suicide is published, a suicide hotline number is stamped across the very top of the article in font 3000? Invariably with the helpful prompt that, if we're having a hard time, we should call. :)

 

[summers]

Don't you love it when the rare article about suicide is published, a suicide hotline number is stamped across the very top of the article in font 3000? Invariably with the helpful prompt that, if we're having a hard time, we should call. :)

Funnily enough, ss members have probably helped prevent more suicides than the hotline :)

 

[Darkmoon Queen]

Agree 100% many ss members have been through things people couldn't imagine. Not all though. I commented in another thread about the entitlement mentality of some members.

I've noticed this but tend not to engage with it. Invariably it comes out that they're suffering from BPD or somesuch. It tends to be fairly obvious as they're the ones who immediately paint you black as soon as you put a theory out there.

One member who I won't name immediately started on me for even mentioning BPD and then followed up with, "I have BPD and I've never hurt anybody". Then not two minutes later, "I used to abuse my younger brother."

So yeah, no thanks...

 

[Rogue Proxy]

Yeah I really don't understand what is wrong with those people. They seem to have their own set of mental health issues.

How many bets on Neurotypical Syndrome?

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[Pure]

I'll be the first to admit that I am nihilistic but I think I'm also closer to the truth.

What is truth though? The only truth in life that anyone knows for sure is that we all die one day. Suicide, outside of tangible terminal physical illness, is absurd because we want to rush something that will inevitably happen.

I suppose it is all down to distractions in the end but normal people can't seem to distinguish between support networks and purpose and a gaming franchise.

Does it really matter though? I think anyone finding meaning in anything (exceptions apply obviously) is a good thing if it avoids suicide.

 

[Seiba]

Agree 100% many ss members have been through things people couldn't imagine. Not all though. I commented in another thread about the entitlement mentality of some members.

I checked some of your post. I didn't go far back enough (or missed it) to see the thread but I found something similar from you I suppose.

"Exactly where does this sense of entitlement come from? Your parents don't owe you shit once you hit 18. They could legally kick you out on your ass. Fuck, I was helping with the rent and food from the age of 16, as soon as I got my first job.

All I have to say is thank god I got a vasectomy at 20, so I wouldn't have leeches sucking me dry for the rest of my life."

I guess we just have different perspectives, I imagine you would dislike me for that. I don't think children are leeches, and parents are inherently responsible for their offspring. I don't think the age of eighteen means much by itself. I don't think it's outlandish for parents to support their children even if they are of legal age, more so considering that many of the jobs simply will not pay for decent housing or otherwise. Many members are disabled on this forum, and have had to flee abuse and otherwise because they had to move out. I do think it is commendable to not bring anyone else in the world, even if it is from a perspective of resentment of the offspring. Parents that have children only to complain when they have needs they created are entitled, and otherwise should be perfectly fine with their offspring killing themselves if upon getting kicked out at eighteen they die by suicide. Please also consider these "sheltered" members are on a suicide forum and reading threads on how to end their lives. Parents fundamentally create the needs of the offspring themselves, it is not comparable to a non-human entity sucking blood from your leg when you created the problem yourself. That aside, I won't bring life in this world either.

 

[Darkmoon Queen]

What is truth though? The only truth in life that anyone knows for sure is that we all die one day. Suicide, outside of tangible terminal physical illness, is absurd because we want to rush something that will inevitably happen.

The truth is that life is inherently meaningless and we're all just wasting time. Just some waste it more joyfully than others. That's what I believe, at least.

Does it really matter though? I think anyone finding meaning in anything (exceptions apply obviously) is a good thing if it avoids suicide.

Yes, it matters a hell of a lot. If meaning and vidya were created equal, we'd all be okay. No one is finding sufficient meaning in a video game and nothing else.

 

[Pure]

I guess we just have different perspectives,

It's a very western mindset. And by western, I mean anglosphere specifically. 18 is just a random number chosen to choose the age of adulthood. In most cultures, the idea of abandoning your kid at 18 or making them contribute to the household as a child (outside of poverty) is inconceivable. Most cultures see parenthood and need to support children even as adults as a lifelong thing. That being said, I support sterilization for anyone who wants it. Last thing the world needs is more parents who hate their kids.

 

[Brick In The Wall]

Don't you love it when the rare article about suicide is published, a suicide hotline number is stamped across the very top of the article in font 3000? Invariably with the helpful prompt that, if we're having a hard time, we should call. :)

I love it about as much as hearing someones whole goddamn life story when I'm looking for a simple cooking recipe

 

[summers]

@Seiba the leeches I were referring to would be both the kids and their mother hitting me up for child support.

At the same time, I knew enough to pull out way way before I got off, so even no condom was no problem.

But that's the reason I travel all the time, have pretty much everything I want. Not rich, but live comfortably. I commend you for not having kids. They won't bring anything positive to your life.

 

[Pure]

The truth is that life is inherently meaningless and we're all just wasting time. Just some waste it more joyfully than others. That's what I believe, at least.

I think that's your own nihilist bias. If you ask a religious person, let's say of the Abrahamic faith, what the purpose of life is, most would say we're all on this planet for a purpose. The purpose? Probably depends on the religion.

 

[summers]

I think that's your own nihilist bias. If you ask a religious person, let's say of the Abrahamic faith, what the purpose of life is, most would say we're all on this planet for a purpose. The purpose? Probably depends on the religion.

Religion is a man made system for control. It is no more relevant or real than nihilism. I guess some people need a fairy tale ending to look forward to when they die.

 

[demuic]

What is truth though? The only truth in life that anyone knows for sure is that we all die one day. Suicide, outside of tangible terminal physical illness, is absurd because we want to rush something that will inevitably happen.


Does it really matter though? I think anyone finding meaning in anything (exceptions apply obviously) is a good thing if it avoids suicide.

That sucide should be avoided at all is subjective and based on your own "bias".

I checked some of your post. I didn't go far back enough (or missed it) to see the thread but I found something similar from you I suppose.

"Exactly where does this sense of entitlement come from? Your parents don't owe you shit once you hit 18. They could legally kick you out on your ass. Fuck, I was helping with the rent and food from the age of 16, as soon as I got my first job.

All I have to say is thank god I got a vasectomy at 20, so I wouldn't have leeches sucking me dry for the rest of my life."

I guess we just have different perspectives, I imagine you would dislike me for that. I don't think children are leeches, and parents are inherently responsible for their offspring. I don't think the age of eighteen means much by itself. I don't think it's outlandish for parents to support their children even if they are of legal age, more so considering that many of the jobs simply will not pay for decent housing or otherwise. Many members are disabled on this forum, and have had to flee abuse and otherwise because they had to move out. I do think it is commendable to not bring anyone else in the world, even if it is from a perspective of resentment of the offspring. Parents that have children only to complain when they have needs they created are entitled, and otherwise should be perfectly fine with their offspring killing themselves if upon getting kicked out at eighteen they die by suicide. Please also consider these "sheltered" members are on a suicide forum and reading threads on how to end their lives. Parents fundamentally create the needs of the offspring themselves, it is not comparable to a non-human entity sucking blood from your leg when you created the problem yourself. That aside, I won't bring life in this world either.

Parents that complain about the children they willingly brought into the world disgust me. No one asked to be born. It is clear a lot of parents want a slave, dress up doll or punching bag rather than any altruistic purpose that gets made up by society that's convinced of the self sacrificing nature of parents. I would even say most people that have kids shouldn't have them.

 

[Darkmoon Queen]

I think that's your own nihilist bias. If you ask a religious person, let's say of the Abrahamic faith, what the purpose of life is, most would say we're all on this planet for a purpose. The purpose? Probably depends on the religion.

Is there literally ANY proof that religion has ANY solid basis?

 

[Seiba]

That sucide should be avoided at all is subjective and based on your own "bias".


Parents that complain about the children they willingly brought into the world disgust me. No one asked to be born. It is clear a lot of parents want a slave, dress up doll or punching bag rather than any altruistic purpose that gets made up by society that's convinced of the self sacrificing nature of parents. I would even say most people that have kids shouldn't have them.

Yes, I realized at eleven or so it wouldn't be a good idea to create a being that will inherently suffer and depend on me for existence. Many parents have them for reasons you said, and to otherwise try to get happiness selfishly from another being. It is perfect for self centered people because it's a very long time of having someone *have* to depend on you to fundamentally survive.

 

[Pure]

Religion is a man made system for control. It is no more relevant or real than nihilism. I guess some people need a fairy tale ending to look forward to when they die.

Control maybe, but religion has primarily functioned to create strong social bonds and a framework of navigating life's problems and a purpose for living. There's a reason why Durkheim discovered the reason Catholics are less likely to kill themselves compared to Protestants isnt just because there's a strong religious prohibition but also because there's strong social integration in their religion.

That sucide should be avoided at all is subjective and based on your own "bias".

True, but I don't mind. It's the most serious decision anyone can make when nobody knows what happens after death. I'd rather everyone think long and hard about doing it vs normalizing it as a response to any bad thing that happens in someone's life.

 

[summers]

nobody knows what happens after death.

On the atomic and subatomic scales, nothing changes at all.

Is there literally ANY proof that religion has ANY solid basis?

No.

 

[Darkmoon Queen]

No.

Exactly. So how are religious people any less biased than nihilists? I think on paper, nihilists are correct; that there is no inherent meaning and we have to create our own version.

Leaning on 'religion' is... no more meaningful or real to me than leaning on aforementioned anime. Both are fiction.