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Darkmoon Queen

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When people don't understand something, they attack. Maybe subconsciously it's protection against cognitive dissonance? They are afraid to become ones they hate? I don't know. Maybe what I said applies to religions more.
I think that's pretty spot on, yes.
 
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Sprite_Geist

Sprite_Geist

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Ah yes, the classical ''life is a gift because we have pizza and videogames yay!''. First of all, how do they even know if OP likes Marvel or Disney or whatever comic stuff or anime? But that's redditors we talk about, they love to act like they-know-it-all, even the life of people they never met.
Plus those interests and/or hobbies are not accessible to everyone. When it comes to streaming different shows are only available on certain services; which means if you enjoy a variety of shows you will likely have to pay for multiple services - Disney+ and Netflix for example. Considering that there are many depressed, and suicidal individuals in the world who are struggling to pay for even basic necessities - i.e.: rent and electricity bills - activities like gaming (especially PC gaming) and streaming are just not possible. Having fun activities locked behind a paywall that a depressed person cannot even afford to touch will make them feel much worse.
 
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Samsara

Samsara

Experienced
Mar 9, 2020
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It begins with a simple statement by OP:

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Ok, sounds good. He's made his decision.

But oh boy, here comes the "just wait a minute!!" knights to save the day.

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Just wait a minute or two, OP. Or, hell—why not make it a year or two?

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And don't forget to come back here a year later for me to tell you the exact same thing!! :)

OP also has a number of compelling arguments in the comments section to convince him not to CTB. Here are a few examples:

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and

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Hmm, I hadn't considered "just not doing it" before. I'm certain that will help OP address the problems that he's facing in his life.

But it turns out, the commenters have provided some more concrete reasons not to end things too. Do you think OP can justify taking his life if he hasn't seen the conclusion to the Marvel Cinematic Universe?? I don't think so.

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That's right, Disney has plenty of surprises waiting for OP! It would be pretty selfish if he didn't stick around. Disney's being very generous by providing him with such high quality entertainment.

And has OP forgotten the most important thing about life?

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With great reasons like these, I honestly don't know how anyone can justify taking their life. OP is selfish and weird for not realizing what a precious gift he has. Just think of all the amazing anime shows he will miss out on…;-;
Omg, your delivery of this was amazing.
 
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Thaneem

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There's really no such thing as great anime, though.

Or good anime

Or fair anime
 
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wrongreality

wrongreality

rotting:3
Sep 15, 2020
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It begins with a simple statement by OP:

View attachment 75899

Ok, sounds good. He's made his decision.

But oh boy, here comes the "just wait a minute!!" knights to save the day.

View attachment 75900

Just wait a minute or two, OP. Or, hell—why not make it a year or two?

View attachment 75901

And don't forget to come back here a year later for me to tell you the exact same thing!! :)

OP also has a number of compelling arguments in the comments section to convince him not to CTB. Here are a few examples:

View attachment 75902

and

View attachment 75903

Hmm, I hadn't considered "just not doing it" before. I'm certain that will help OP address the problems that he's facing in his life.

But it turns out, the commenters have provided some more concrete reasons not to end things too. Do you think OP can justify taking his life if he hasn't seen the conclusion to the Marvel Cinematic Universe?? I don't think so.

View attachment 75904

That's right, Disney has plenty of surprises waiting for OP! It would be pretty selfish if he didn't stick around. Disney's being very generous by providing him with such high quality entertainment.

And has OP forgotten the most important thing about life?

View attachment 75905

With great reasons like these, I honestly don't know how anyone can justify taking their life. OP is selfish and weird for not realizing what a precious gift he has. Just think of all the amazing anime shows he will miss out on…;-;
LMFAOOOOO BYE
 
$nowLeopard

$nowLeopard

Student
Oct 30, 2021
161
Okay it didn't seem that bad until they mentioned not being able to watch marvel movies. Fucking lol
 
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deathgripsme

deathgripsme

There is another world
Oct 26, 2021
117
There was a time when the only resource I had was that sub...
thank god I found this website
r/SuicideWatch is awful.
 
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Rogue Proxy

Rogue Proxy

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Sep 12, 2021
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Wolves in sheeps' clothing.
r/SuicideWatch is more like an overcrowded feedlot full of zombie sheep.

Black Sheep horror movies 7083682 1600 1200

. . .which describes just about every other group in existence.
 
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diyCTB

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Oct 28, 2018
573
@Rogue Proxy You mean every group of people is a group of sheeple?

Like forum about video gaming or home DIY? People are united by their interests. Does that make them sheeple?
 
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$nowLeopard

$nowLeopard

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Oct 30, 2021
161
@Rogue Proxy You mean every group of people is a group of sheeple?

Like forum about video gaming or home DIY? People are united by their interests. Does that make them sheeple?
It can be true for this group aswell
I think nobody is safe from herd mentality
 
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Rogue Proxy

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Sep 12, 2021
1,315
@Rogue Proxy You mean every group of people is a group of sheeple?

Like forum about video gaming or home DIY? People are united by their interests. Does that make them sheeple?
I'm referring to the vast majority of humans being vicious, mindless livestock.

Funny thing is, I've since this behavior in uncommon groups as well. Particularly, how they attack a member for questioning, disagreeing, or doing anything differently from the rest of the group, even if the individual does so in a civil, harmless, and/or thoughtful manner.
 
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diyCTB

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Oct 28, 2018
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Funny thing is, I've since this behavior in uncommon groups as well. Particularly, how they attack a member for questioning, disagreeing, or doing anything differently from the rest of the group, even if the individual does so in a civil, harmless, and/or thoughtful manner.
Suppression of criticism, skepticism that can possibly undermine group's think by leading to cognitive dissonance, shattering of belief and burst of one's bubble. It's a protective behavior.

Example would be Morpheus who believed in prophecy so much that it became part of him until he learned it was false. Without stubbornly denying he accepted it but it shattered his personality and he was no longer Morpheus we knew.

Another example would be holocaust survivor who went through hell to survive. If you would approach that person and tell them that everything is random, we are specks in this endless universe nobody cares about and in the grand scheme of things nothing really matters (assuming it is true) they would deny it to no end, lashing at you to protect their sanity because accepting it would shatter them.

There is no point in trying to awake someone if they don't want to be awaken because that would probably do them more harm than good. Accept that you tried to help but they denied it and wish them well on their journey.
 
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KuriGohan&Kamehameha

KuriGohan&Kamehameha

想死不能 - 想活不能
Nov 23, 2020
1,801
Suppression of criticism, skepticism that can possibly undermine group's think by leading to cognitive dissonance, shattering of belief and burst of one's bubble. It's a protective behavior.

Example would be Morpheus who believed in prophecy so much that it became part of him until he learned it was false. Without stubbornly denying he accepted it but it shattered his personality and he was no longer Morpheus we knew.

Another example would be holocaust survivor who went through hell to survive. If you would approach that person and tell them that everything is random, we are specks in this endless universe nobody cares about and in the grand scheme of things nothing really matters (assuming it is true) they would deny it to no end, lashing at you to protect their sanity because accepting it would shatter them.

There is no point in trying to awake someone if they don't want to be awaken because that would probably do them more harm than good. Accept that you tried to help but they denied it and wish them well on their journey.
You should read this article. I find it very interesting how the author tries to justify suffering if only to protect the bubble of denial he's encapsulated himself in (refusal to accept his physical illness is permanent and incurable)


He summaries the position of the philosopher Frankl, who wrote Man's Search for Meaning following his imprisonment in a concentration camp. "Frankl articulated a spirit of "tragic optimism" that says yes to life in spite of the tragic triad of suffering, guilt, and death. Using suffering as an opportunity for personal and spiritual growth, using guilt to take more responsibility for our lives, and using the fact of death to make life more real."

The refusal to accept that reality may not be so pleasant is 100% cope. This author also adds in a little relative privation fallacy in his piece, to demonstrate that he has it bad, but at least he's not those hopeless mental patients!

"Many of them would never get better. My illness, on the other hand, was entirely physical and there was at least a slim chance of recovery. Except for the time a 300 pound man asked me to help him kill himself and then threatened to hurt me when I refused, it was a productive time and I even made some friends.

If I could tell a girl with severe PTSD and a romantic relationship with a Dr. Who action figure that it was important to stay alive then, well, I'd be a hypocrite to entertain suicidal thoughts of my own. "

Just thought you'd find these excerpts interesting, as it is pure hopium copium bs, and reminds me quite a lot of the fallacies and optism bias circle jerk of reddit.
 
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deflationary

deflationary

Fussy exister. Living in the epilogue
Mar 11, 2020
529
"Frankl articulated a spirit of "tragic optimism" that says yes to life in spite of the tragic triad of suffering, guilt, and death. Using suffering as an opportunity for personal and spiritual growth, using guilt to take more responsibility for our lives, and using the fact of death to make life more real."
This kind of "tragic optimism" thing always really grinds my gears. Same kind of nonsense like Camus' "one must imagine Sisyphus happy" claptrap. I guess it's nice if it works for some people to alleviate their miseries, but to suggest that such attitudes are noble and whatever is annoying af. You're not noble for fooling yourself, you're just glorifying the utterly senseless life-drive evolution has instilled in all of us. It's about as noble in us as it is in a bacterium.
 
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diyCTB

Mage
Oct 28, 2018
573
@KuriGohan&Kamehameha People like him propagate this idea throughout society while vulnerable and naive people that @Rogue Proxy referred to as mindless livestock treat it as a way of life that creates this herd mentality.

Then there are those pro-lifers that take it as a gospel and delusional enough that blame those who are hanging by a thin thread for not trying enough and thinking about death because they can't go any longer.
 
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Rogue Proxy

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Sep 12, 2021
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It can be true for this group aswell
I think nobody is safe from herd mentality
Hermits completely cut off from civilization would be safe against the herd mentality. While no one living and interacting within the human world would be 100% immune to tribalism, some individuals, particularly asocial, low social, and certain neurotypes; would have a much greater resistance against it, and in turn, more independent thought processing.
 
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Zzzzz

Zzzzz

Nothing compares to the bliss of death.
Aug 8, 2018
879
People who think a new movie or video game is enough to give someone a reason to live have no understanding of what depression is.
 
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diyCTB

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Oct 28, 2018
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@Rogue Proxy

Add avoidant personality disorder people to that as well.
 
Rogue Proxy

Rogue Proxy

Enlightened
Sep 12, 2021
1,315
@Rogue Proxy

Add avoidant personality disorder people to that as well.
Sasquatch doesn't count since they are a completely different species.

Don't forget those with schizoid personality disorder, and asociality in general.
 
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The saddest part is that they're not even doing it to help this person, they're doing it to feel good about themselves and to gain karma.

Very sickening.
 
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