the failure concern

[onestepcloser]

I have been on the edge for my entire life, suicidal for about 3 years and spent countless hours researching methods. I suffer from severe OCD, which despite medication, does not let me live a normal life, and even in the thought of death it sometimes does not let me find comfort. This illness renders me very paranoid, thus making me overthink and overanalyse everything to the smallest detail.

In my search for the perfect suicide method I always bumped into certain ways things could go wrong even in the most classic suicide methods. For example:
- during a jumping suicide, one might somehow flip during the fall, resulting in a feet first landing and surviving paralyzed or some shit
- during a gas asphyxiation suicide, the gas might not be the advertised purity, probably being mixed with some amount of oxygen, thus resulting into failure

These might be real concerns or might just be my OCD going full paranoia thinking of the most unlikely yet possible ways things could go wrong.

However, it is astounding to me how many people are willing to throw themselves in some of the riskiest methods, like the SN method as I've been seeing lately on this forum. It seems that such methods gain traction due to being advertised as "painless", that being a huge rock off the shoulders to people who are already in great distress. However, I think substance methods are some of the riskiest since most people barely understand how these things work just from a few forum posts written by strangers. On paper anything can look good but in practice things can go south real quick.

This being said, I do believe the best way to go is the simplest way to go. The absolute safest and most failproof way to go would be a gun, since all you have to do is point and shoot. Failure can happen yes, but you must be an absolute idiot to aim it the wrong way. Since I am not in USA, a gun might not an option for me. I thought about getting a tourist visa to travel to the US and getting a gun from some shady dealer but I don't know how easy it is to get a gun. I have a large amount of money saved up so that would be no problem. The problem is that I lack the connections to get ahold of such things.

Anyway, thanks for reading my little speech. Bye...

 

[juraviel]

you just listed all the cons of the methods yourself.

guns aren't available to everyone and involve pain and mess.
how do you exactly make a flip during the 3-5seconds it takes to hit the ground while jumping without intending to do so - i don't know, only matters if the height is insufficient anyway
sn is cheap, reasonably quick and painless and highly effective while done right, also should be enough on its own - those are the reasons it gained popularity
gas bought via legal means is as certain as anything you ever bought in your life to be what it's supposed to be. brand matters i bet.

so i'm not exactly sure as what your confusion is regarding certain people be unwilling or unable to travel to distant parts of the world to get ahold of a gun. i think you've seen too many movies

 

[onestepcloser]

you just listed all the cons of the methods yourself.

guns aren't available to everyone and involve pain and mess.
how do you exactly make a flip during the 3-5seconds it takes to hit the ground while jumping without intending to do so - i don't know, only matters if the height is insufficient anyway
sn is cheap, reasonably quick and painless and highly effective while done right, also should be enough on its own - those are the reasons it gained popularity
gas bought via legal means is as certain as anything you ever bought in your life to be what it's supposed to be. brand matters i bet.

so i'm not exactly sure as what your confusion is regarding certain people be unwilling or unable to travel to distant parts of the world to get ahold of a gun. i think you've seen too many movies

the cons i listed are just off the top of my head, there are cons to every method out there and there are many cons not just 1 or 2

guns are the least painful in fact, since you are instant lights out when the bullet enters the brain... also who cares about mess since u can do it in a forest or something

when it comes to doing a flip during the fall, I can tell you've never seen videos of people falling from great height... I saw tens maybe close to 100 videos of that on gore websites and let me tell you nobody falls straight the whole way down... also, height is not everything... the toughness of the landing surface matters a lot

again, chemical methods are unsafe in my eyes as I won't just take the word of some strangers over the internet

there are many credible sources that exposed gas tank manufacturers to be mixing helium with oxygen and other shady deals like that

there is no confusion and idk what movies you talk about ??? my question was how easy is it to get a gun in the underground world... I would be willing to travel just for that if I had a certainty

 

[Life_and_Death]

your "information" concerns me.

I think substance methods are some of the riskiest since most people barely understand how these things work just from a few forum posts written by strangers

i cant speak for all substances but SN has been researched to great extents on this site, hence why any GOOD member will tell you to read stans guide and to also look into it yourself.

guns are the least painful in fact

also, false. dont miss, which is possible to a scary amount, or you could be living without a face at all.

 

[FuneralCry]

There are many confirmed cases of death by SN, there are news articles so to me it does not sound like a risky method and if I had it I would take it. I do understand having the fear of failing ctb and I wish that we lived in a world where we could all just get euthanised if that is what we want. Dying seems so complicated and in general the fear of the method going wrong is what holds me back from attempting. I hope that in whatever happens, you find relief from your suffering.

 

[Resinn66]

the cons i listed are just off the top of my head, there are cons to every method out there and there are many cons not just 1 or 2

guns are the least painful in fact, since you are instant lights out when the bullet enters the brain... also who cares about mess since u can do it in a forest or something

when it comes to doing a flip during the fall, I can tell you've never seen videos of people falling from great height... I saw tens maybe close to 100 videos of that on gore websites and let me tell you nobody falls straight the whole way down... also, height is not everything... the toughness of the landing surface matters a lot

again, chemical methods are unsafe in my eyes as I won't just take the word of some strangers over the internet

there are many credible sources that exposed gas tank manufacturers to be mixing helium with oxygen and other shady deals like that

there is no confusion and idk what movies you talk about ??? my question was how easy is it to get a gun in the underground world... I would be willing to travel just for that if I had a certainty

If you can't buy a gun in your country, of the available methods, which one do you prefer?

 

[Euthanza]

Gun is violent method, but as you mention isolated/missing place then yeah whatever float your boat, period.

Just adding some statistics to the conversation from the PPeH and lostallhope




SN seems pretty peaceful for me.

 

[adventurer]

fucking up a suicide by gun is actually very very easy. i can't say this from experience, but i think it's safe to say there have been many, many botched/messed up gun suicides that result with the person remaining alive but in a horrible, crippling condition that keeps them trapped inside a body that won't respond to them, or stuck inside a damaged brain unwilling to cooperate.

 

[Stoned Ghost]

I mean who isn't scared of messing up? Half the reason im still here is im so fucking scared of messing it up and leaving an even worse life.

 

[outrider567]

I have been on the edge for my entire life, suicidal for about 3 years and spent countless hours researching methods. I suffer from severe OCD, which despite medication, does not let me live a normal life, and even in the thought of death it sometimes does not let me find comfort. This illness renders me very paranoid, thus making me overthink and overanalyse everything to the smallest detail.

In my search for the perfect suicide method I always bumped into certain ways things could go wrong even in the most classic suicide methods. For example:
- during a jumping suicide, one might somehow flip during the fall, resulting in a feet first landing and surviving paralyzed or some shit
- during a gas asphyxiation suicide, the gas might not be the advertised purity, probably being mixed with some amount of oxygen, thus resulting into failure

These might be real concerns or might just be my OCD going full paranoia thinking of the most unlikely yet possible ways things could go wrong.

However, it is astounding to me how many people are willing to throw themselves in some of the riskiest methods, like the SN method as I've been seeing lately on this forum. It seems that such methods gain traction due to being advertised as "painless", that being a huge rock off the shoulders to people who are already in great distress. However, I think substance methods are some of the riskiest since most people barely understand how these things work just from a few forum posts written by strangers. On paper anything can look good but in practice things can go south real quick.

This being said, I do believe the best way to go is the simplest way to go. The absolute safest and most failproof way to go would be a gun, since all you have to do is point and shoot. Failure can happen yes, but you must be an absolute idiot to aim it the wrong way. Since I am not in USA, a gun might not an option for me. I thought about getting a tourist visa to travel to the US and getting a gun from some shady dealer but I don't know how easy it is to get a gun. I have a large amount of money saved up so that would be no problem. The problem is that I lack the connections to get ahold of such things.

Anyway, thanks for reading my little speech. Bye...

Nitrogen and Nembutal are close to the best way to go

Gun is violent method, but as you mention isolated/missing place then yeah whatever float your boat, period.

Just adding some statistics to the conversation from the PPeH and lostallhope

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SN seems pretty peaceful for me.

Glad to see Nitrogen as the highest reliability, along with Nembutal

 

[Suspect_Device]

during a jumping suicide, one might somehow flip during the fall, resulting in a feet first landing and surviving paralyzed or some shit

LMAO . Thank you for this.

 

[Interloper]

There are many credible sources that exposed gas tank manufacturers to be mixing helium with oxygen and other shady deals like that

Aren't you just talking about the canisters sold for balloons? No other credible gas company is going to mix gasses and not mention it on the spec sheet. Not only is that illegal, it's also dangerous.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

I agree with the other poster that no reputable company is going to advertise a gas at a certain purity without it being so. These companies aren't just selling gas to people on SaSu who want to use it to ctb. They sell to research facilities, universities, hospitals, and industry who require guarantees that gasses are as advertised. If a research facility is using a gas with a reported purity of X% for some sort of experiment, and anything less than that purity could alter the outcome of important experiments, then the supplier of that gas better make damn sure that what they claim a gas to be is exactly what it is, or, they'd be in a bunch of trouble.

 

[Sun n showers]

the cons i listed are just off the top of my head, there are cons to every method out there and there are many cons not just 1 or 2

guns are the least painful in fact, since you are instant lights out when the bullet enters the brain... also who cares about mess since u can do it in a forest or something

when it comes to doing a flip during the fall, I can tell you've never seen videos of people falling from great height... I saw tens maybe close to 100 videos of that on gore websites and let me tell you nobody falls straight the whole way down... also, height is not everything... the toughness of the landing surface matters a lot

again, chemical methods are unsafe in my eyes as I won't just take the word of some strangers over the internet

there are many credible sources that exposed gas tank manufacturers to be mixing helium with oxygen and other shady deals like that

there is no confusion and idk what movies you talk about ??? my question was how easy is it to get a gun in the underground world... I would be willing to travel just for that if I had a certainty

I'm trying to pm you, can u pm me?

 

[onestepcloser]

If you can't buy a gun in your country, of the available methods, which one do you prefer?

i think hanging might be the safest to go for but from what I've experimented I think I lost the carotid lottery and i'm unable to pass out on the spot... sleeping pills and alcohol might soften the agony

I'm trying to pm you, can u pm me?

bro i cant find anything related to pms on this website and i cant access ur profile either

can a moderator help ?

 

[Sun n showers]

i think hanging might be the safest to go for but from what I've experimented I think I lost the carotid lottery and i'm unable to pass out on the spot... sleeping pills and alcohol might soften the agony


bro i cant find anything related to pms on this website and i cant access ur profile either

can a moderator help ?

No worries, I meant can you personal message me..... I was just going to inquire about something you posted im jn agreement with. Quickest method .

 

[onestepcloser]

No worries, I meant can you personal message me..... I was just going to inquire about something you posted im jn agreement with. Quickest method .

you can add me on steam if you wanna talk or something... my friend code is 129682080

 

[Sun n showers]

i think hanging might be the safest to go for but from what I've experimented I think I lost the carotid lottery and i'm unable to pass out on the spot... sleeping pills and alcohol might soften the agony


bro i cant find anything related to pms on this website and i cant access ur profile either

can a moderator help ?

I think you have to do couple more posts before you can message somebody by just pressing down on the username it gives you the option to private message them

you can add me on steam if you wanna talk or something... my friend code is 129682080

I've no idea how to do that, I have protonmail which is [email protected] if that's any good?

 

[onestepcloser]

I think you have to do couple more posts before you can message somebody by just pressing down on the username it gives you the option to private message them

I've no idea how to do that, I have protonmail which is [email protected] if that's any good?

i tried to send a mail to that address but it doesn't work... do you have discord or anything like that?

 

[Sun n showers]

Discord? I'm not sure what you mean.. no worries. Just wanted to try to find one if what you are also trying to find . Don't know why that email isn't working , do you have an email ?

i tried to send a mail to that address but it doesn't work... do you have discord or anything like that?

Sorry its Proton.me my mistake

 

[onestepcloser]

Discord? I'm not sure what you mean.. no worries. Just wanted to try to find one if what you are also trying to find . Don't know why that email isn't working , do you have an email ?

Sorry its Proton.me my mistake

yea i sent u a mail... i'm [email protected]

 

[LastFlowers]

However, it is astounding to me how many people are willing to throw themselves in some of the riskiest methods, like the SN method as I've been seeing lately on this forum. It seems that such methods gain traction due to being advertised as "painless", that being a huge rock off the shoulders to people who are already in great distress. However, I think substance methods are some of the riskiest since most people barely understand how these things work just from a few forum posts written by strangers. On paper anything can look good but in practice things can go south real quick.

Is SN known as one of the "riskiest" methods now?
I have been off this site for quite some time and the failures and issues I've heard of involving SN were few and far between compared to other methods.
It's my method, and I don't have anything else viable available to me, that's why I am wondering.

 

[LastFlowers]

I mean who isn't scared of messing up? Half the reason im still here is im so fucking scared of messing it up and leaving an even worse life.

Yup. I think any remotely sane person who lacks the fervor of impulse and actually gives the methods some thought will still be scared shitless of the possible consequences of failure.

Still, I absolutely must end this misery.

i think hanging might be the safest to go for but from what I've experimented I think I lost the carotid lottery and i'm unable to pass out on the spot... sleeping pills and alcohol might soften the agony


bro i cant find anything related to pms on this website and i cant access ur profile either

can a moderator help ?

I recall quite a few posts (and stories off site) where hanging attempts ended in severe brain damage and vegetative states.
I could have sworn there was a medical professional of some sort on here who also claimed that most of the brain damage via suicide attempt victims at their place of work/hospital were the result of hanging..

I'm sure it works for plenty of people, in fact, I know it does, but I'm just saying.
I "attempted" it myself some time ago and couldn't manage it as it just felt like my eyeballs were being squeezed out of my skull.

 

[WaitingAllMyLife]

My plan involves multiple methods at once. I feel pretty confident that I will not survive. Still, failure is always a possibility.

If you overthink it too much you can talk yourself out of anything. There are plenty of people who commit suicide successfully with ZERO research and preparation.

 

[london3]

Is SN known as one of the "riskiest" methods now?
I have been off this site for quite some time and the failures and issues I've heard of involving SN were few and far between compared to other methods.
It's my method, and I don't have anything else viable available to me, that's why I am wondering.

I have made a thread with a lot of information on the success rates of SN with many links

Sodium Nitrite - SN success and failure rates

Please have a read as there is a lot of good information on this thread.

I have been on the edge for my entire life, suicidal for about 3 years and spent countless hours researching methods. I suffer from severe OCD, which despite medication, does not let me live a normal life, and even in the thought of death it sometimes does not let me find comfort. This illness renders me very paranoid, thus making me overthink and overanalyse everything to the smallest detail.

In my search for the perfect suicide method I always bumped into certain ways things could go wrong even in the most classic suicide methods. For example:
- during a jumping suicide, one might somehow flip during the fall, resulting in a feet first landing and surviving paralyzed or some shit
- during a gas asphyxiation suicide, the gas might not be the advertised purity, probably being mixed with some amount of oxygen, thus resulting into failure

These might be real concerns or might just be my OCD going full paranoia thinking of the most unlikely yet possible ways things could go wrong.

However, it is astounding to me how many people are willing to throw themselves in some of the riskiest methods, like the SN method as I've been seeing lately on this forum. It seems that such methods gain traction due to being advertised as "painless", that being a huge rock off the shoulders to people who are already in great distress. However, I think substance methods are some of the riskiest since most people barely understand how these things work just from a few forum posts written by strangers. On paper anything can look good but in practice things can go south real quick.

This being said, I do believe the best way to go is the simplest way to go. The absolute safest and most failproof way to go would be a gun, since all you have to do is point and shoot. Failure can happen yes, but you must be an absolute idiot to aim it the wrong way. Since I am not in USA, a gun might not an option for me. I thought about getting a tourist visa to travel to the US and getting a gun from some shady dealer but I don't know how easy it is to get a gun. I have a large amount of money saved up so that would be no problem. The problem is that I lack the connections to get ahold of such things.

Anyway, thanks for reading my little speech. Bye...

Hi

Out of your list of methods SN is very likely the safest if you do not get caught.

All of your other methods can go wrong or right depending on the person and technique.

Jumping is good from a sufficient height landing on your head, but will fail if you jump from a low height .

Gas is good if you trust your supplier and your setup is faultless, but takes a lot of planning

Guns can also go wrong if you shoot your face off, but do not blast and rip the brain stem, it is not simply just point and shoot in your temple or mouth etc. You would need a shotgun and aim for the brain stem to be more successfull, but it will be very messy.

Everyone should decide on method depending on several factors, like success rate, availability, affordability, legality, location, illness etc etc

Gun is violent method, but as you mention isolated/missing place then yeah whatever float your boat, period.

Just adding some statistics to the conversation from the PPeH and lostallhope

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SN seems pretty peaceful for me.

Really useful information here. Thanks

 

[LastFlowers]

I have made a thread with a lot of information on the success rates of SN with many links

Sodium Nitrite - SN success and failure rates

Please have a read as there is a lot of good information on this thread.

Thank you very much, I appreciate that!