Taking pills before ctb?

[toobrokenforlife]

I hope this isn't included in no method talk rule. It's not about the act itself, just preparing for it. I take Trazadone for my panic attacks (which helps enough to make it bearable, but not enough to make me functional in this world). Should I take a couple extra so I'm too drugged up for SI to kick in, or not take it at all so my anxiety is worse than SI?

 

[Ta555]

I have the same question but the not the exact same drug. It depends on your method and when you take them. Like some people get drunk and then try to set up their method and fail and obviously that's no good.

 

[Depressed Cat]

As much as those here would like to answer the question, it's quite impossible to do so without knowing your method of CTB. It can be of help for some methods or can be a hindrance for other methods.

 

[I should go]

I'm wondering about that too.
I'm thinking about quetiapine and mirtazapine, since they have a fast sedative effect. In low doses of both to reduce the possibility of interaction with meto. I'm so tired. Looks like I will have to put off the ctb as I just don't have the meds to make it painless and successful. But I'm not sure

 

[toobrokenforlife]

As much as those here would like to answer the question, it's quite impossible to do so without knowing your method of CTB. It can be of help for some methods or can be a hindrance for other methods.

I plan on drowning in a nearby lake.

 

[Depressed Cat]

Thinking logically, I guess taking those extra pills could help you in your chosen method of CTB.

I hope you have thought this out carefully and are in the right frame of mind when you make your attempt.

Whatever happens, I wish you the best and I hope you find peace.

 

[Noctis]

I think it really depends. I occasionally take 50 mg of Trazadone for anxiety. 150 mg makes me feel sick and I do nothing but lie on the couch all day. Maybe you have a different tolerance/reaction, but it would not help me do anything at all.

 

[little helpers]

buddy works as an EMT. what he said was, in counteracting SI, you want to curb the sympathetic response. so it's not like any sedative would just work. personally I find it true. true to my own experiences in the very least. that's why propranolol has been recommended many times over, as a beta-blocker. also since you're planning on drowning, you can utilize the diving reflex/cold water shock to your own benefit. it lowers activity of the sympathetic nervous system in and of itself.

 

[I should go]

buddy works as an EMT. what he said was, in counteracting SI, you want to curb the sympathetic response. so it's not like any sedative would just work. personally I find it true. true to my own experiences in the very least. that's why propranolol has been recommended many times over, as a beta-blocker. also since you're planning on drowning, you can utilize the diving reflex/cold water shock to your own benefit. it lowers activity of the sympathetic nervous system in and of itself.

But si doesnt manifest itself only in the reaction of the sympathetic nervous system. I'd like to avoid anxious thoughts before dying

 

[Crazy4u]

buddy works as an EMT. what he said was, in counteracting SI, you want to curb the sympathetic response. so it's not like any sedative would just work. personally I find it true. true to my own experiences in the very least. that's why propranolol has been recommended many times over, as a beta-blocker. also since you're planning on drowning, you can utilize the diving reflex/cold water shock to your own benefit. it lowers activity of the sympathetic nervous system in and of itself.

what do you mean by sympathetic response?

 

[Ta555]

what do you mean by sympathetic response?

Fight or flight. Google it. I'm not saying that in a mean way ...I just mean really Google it because there's lots of good explanations our there.

 

[little helpers]

But si doesnt manifest itself only in the reaction of the sympathetic nervous system. I'd like to avoid anxious thoughts before dying

fair enough. SI typically means the fast reflexive indirect escape behaviors at the face of the event, but the functioning of such relies on the entire survival optimization system.

dampening your anxiety will help, absolutely. though not all that much IMO. I also doubt if people complete attempts at all when they're super sluggish. I can't. been there done (failed) that. but basically if you're plunging into water below 59°F, the cold shock response will make sure there's no going back. if you can get your face in contact with water first (triggering the diving reflex), you'll panic even less.

 

[Ta555]

fair enough. SI typically means the fast reflexive indirect escape behaviors at the face of the event, but the functioning of such relies on the entire survival optimization system.

dampening your anxiety will help, absolutely. though not all that much IMO. I also doubt if people complete attempts at all when they're super sluggish. I can't. been there done (failed) that. but basically if you're plunging into water below 59°F, the cold shock response will make sure there's no going back. if you can get your face in contact with water first (triggering the diving reflex), you'll panic even less.

Yep that's why you have everything or as much as you possibly can before ingesting any substances. Of course sometimes you can't because you have to cover your head like with the exit bag but have everything ready so if you're taking anything you only have minimal things to do or nothing at all left to do.

 

[NormaJeane]

That will depend on the method, but if you are drugged you may lose control and the suicide attempt can fail. However, it is possible that you will not overcome the survival instinct if you are not drugged, so it is complicated.

 

[Onthe29th]

I could if I wanted to but I won't. I'm not anti-medicine and I understand why someone would want to medicate and with some methods, it's necessary but mine isn't.