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violetdevil

violetdevil

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I have no way of getting a hotel.

Can I take N at night? Most I'll get is 11 hours undisturbed. I live with my parents.

Worried they'll hear me.
 
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Tesha

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If you've already got enough N, it works quick enough not to be an issue. You might want to do a little more research into N, if you're not already aware of that.
 
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John Ryder

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I'm reluctant to dispense anything with a whiff of explicit advice, but it depends on your setup. If it's a big two story or even single story home with ample distance between sleeping quarters (and closed doors for all parties) your chances are much better. The possibility for some extra loud death rattle-esque snoring at the very least is strong. This in contrast to a lot of elderly/terminal clients of Dignitas, et al. who are more prone to just flicking out like a candle. Your body is practically guaranteed to mount more protest in shutdown even with the relative peacefulness of this option. Unalone is a huge risk in the best of cases and being a few feet down the hall is a nail in the coffin unless your co-inhabitants are literally deaf. At your discretion.
 
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MyChoiceAlone

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i kinda looked you up (stalked) glad you are still here. you seem intelligent no idea why you put yourself down so much... whatever. not here to talk you out of anything. i tried to find guides for n. but pretty much obsolete. did you get any gum?
 
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Adding to what @John Ryder already said, N has the reputation for causing emesis, which may be loud enough for someone in your household to hear you.
 
CursedReality88

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Adding to what @John Ryder already said, N has the reputation for causing emesis, which may be loud enough for someone in your household to hear you.
Really? I thought I read somewhere that N doesn't really need Meto. Didnt know it causes vomiting. Are you sure?
 
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Adding to what @John Ryder already said, N has the reputation for causing emesis, which may be loud enough for someone in your household to hear you.

Really? I thought I read somewhere that N doesn't really need Meto. Didnt know it causes vomiting. Are you sure?

I definitely should have touched on vomiting re: noise. It doesn't have the rep for it SN does (i.e. practical guarantee) but the risk is real. But having thoroughly researched meto I can say it sounds scary as shit if you're one of the unlucky ones to catch the "rare" side effects, so I get the apprehension there. I'm trying to source domperidone for this very reason.

Also, OP, time is huge. I know consensus is N has you out in a few hours with ample dosage, but outliers happen even then and minimum 24 is recommended. I again have to stress the avg AS client - old or sickly - and how that likely skews time data. 11 is a solid window if consistent and reliable, but there's just a lot of reasons why a shared roof is hard to recommend for ctb. Parents are just going to be more high alert in general than regular housemates owing to that whole dynamic. Mom's spidey sense and all. I'd look into any option you can to be elsewhere. Again I'm sure most of this has occurred to you but, "it be like that"
 
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Really? I thought I read somewhere that N doesn't really need Meto. Didnt know it causes vomiting. Are you sure?
just a precaution. at switzerland, if they don't inject, they will provide an anti em
 
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Tesha

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I definitely should have touched on vomiting re: noise. It doesn't have the rep for it SN does (i.e. practical guarantee) but the risk is real. But having thoroughly researched meto I can say it sounds scary as shit if you're one of the unlucky ones to catch the "rare" side effects, so I get the apprehension there. I'm trying to source domperidone for this very reason.

Also, OP, time is huge. I know consensus is N has you out in a few hours with ample dosage, but outliers happen even then and minimum 24 is recommended. I again have to stress the avg AS client - old or sickly - and how that likely skews time data. 11 is a solid window if consistent and reliable, but there's just a lot of reasons why a shared roof is hard to recommend for ctb. Parents are just going to be more high alert in general than regular housemates owing to that whole dynamic. Mom's spidey sense and all. I'd look into any option you can to be elsewhere. Again I'm sure most of this has occurred to you but, "it be like that"
That's true about outliers, but there is no antidote. While the hospital could try dialysis and other supportive methods, as long as you've taken enough, it's highly unlikely that they'll be able to 'save you'. You'll also be in a coma, so wouldn't know anything about it anyway.
 
John Ryder

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That's true about outliers, but there is no antidote. While the hospital could try dialysis and other supportive methods, as long as you've taken enough, it's highly unlikely that they'll be able to 'save you'. You'll also be in a coma, so wouldn't know anything about it anyway.
You underestimate supportive care in of itself imo. There are anecdotes of N survivors on this very forum and multiple case studies on the internet of same, with coma and full recovery without short term sequelae a common thread. And before you come at me with "well those dorks took 2g and called 911 ten minutes later" - my first suspicion too - one guy here took 15g powder (alleged good purity) and wasn't discovered for hours, another did a standard 6.5g Mexican vet bottle and was only found after 20+ hours by a coworker. Personally if I was anything other than old/sick I wouldn't stake it all on just a good dose, at least with a narrow time window.

What seems to be generally agreed is a good strong low double digit dose 10-15g will put down the avg person *given enough time*. But I'm seriously starting to question the extent to which people who take, say, 12+ hrs to succumb, or are "rescued" to full recovery within that window are "outliers" or more just indicative of what's likely for someone young/relatively healthy and not a Dignitas relic who was around for the civil war. I dunno. That darn N! Adding phenytoin supposedly speeds things along via cardiac shutdown per PPH which is why I've become obsessed with Euthanex, a stupid strong South American vet formulation that includes phenytoin in the formula.
 
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Really? I thought I read somewhere that N doesn't really need Meto. Didnt know it causes vomiting. Are you sure?
Absolutely it does. The body reacts to it as an "invader", if you will, and will do everything it can to remove the invader from it. It's a poison. Thousands of years of evolution and the body knows what is not good for it.

There's a video circulating around here somewhere, probably on the Internet, too, showing an older guy who is terminal with something, taking N at one of those Dignitas sites, or somewhere like that. Before he takes the N, they give him some pills, and I'm sure at least one of them is some form of an AE.
 
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SeenMoreThanEnough

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Sep 16, 2022
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i kinda looked you up (stalked) glad you are still here. you seem intelligent no idea why you put yourself down so much... whatever. not here to talk you out of anything. i tried to find guides for n. but pretty much obsolete. did you get any gum?
No offence, but since when did intelligence have anything to do with why people put themselves down, have low self esteem, major depression, etc? People who are more intelligent are actually more likely to kill themselves because they realize the futility and 'rigged' nature of life on this earth. Just saying. :)
 

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