Discussion Syrian girl video anyone?

[MeltingHeart]

Did anyone see that video of the Syrian girl hanging in her bedroom (supposedly she was just 'practising' so not 100% sucicide -might have been an accident) & she slips down and gets hypoxia camps & it looks so horrible- I was wondering if anyone knows if she would have felt that sensation or would have been unconscious by the time her body was reacting that way. It really made me think twice about partial-even though that seems the most accesible method for me.

 

[Rachel74]

Why would anyone watch that?

 

[MeltingHeart]

Why would anyone watch that?

I stumbled upon that by mistake when it featured in another video to do with the choking game-kinda thought others might have done the same-if/ when researching methods of partial/ ligature type things- as would be relevant for people on here I guess.

 

[Girobatol]

I saw that video, it was referred through some link maybe in here. She passed out very fast and no much suffering was observed.

 

[MeltingHeart]

I saw that video, it was referred through some link maybe in here. She passed out very fast and no much suffering was observed.

it looked like it would feel horrible-like that thing her limbs did-and she had no control over

 

[gingerplum]

it looked like it would feel horrible-like that thing her limbs did-and she had no control over

She didn't feel it. Posturing like that is actually indicative of brain death, or hypoxia and pending brain death in her case. Decorticate posturing is when the arms go in towards the torso and chest; decerebrate posturing is when the arms & hands extend away from the body, and indicates more severe brain damage.

As awful as it is to see, I'm absolutely sure that wasn't voluntary movement, and she wasn't in pain.

 

[veren4h92l]

It's hard to tell how different unconscious body reaction looks like, but you seem to know quite a bit about it, gingerplum.
Is it comparable to someone braindeath who's body is kept alive artificially, would she cramp too if the machines where shut down?
I never could've imagined that it is unconscious in an accident/attemt.
Is the video still somewhere?

 

[Roger]

She didn't feel it. Posturing like that is actually indicative of brain death, or hypoxia and pending brain death in her case. Decorticate posturing is when the arms go in towards the torso and chest; decerebrate posturing is when the arms & hands extend away from the body, and indicates more severe brain damage.

As awful as it is to see, I'm absolutely sure that wasn't voluntary movement, and she wasn't in pain.

I don't like watching things like that, and certainly not sharing them, but my distaste is eased a little by my sense of justice if I look at the executions of Nazi war criminals.
In this grainy video of the execution of Karl Frank in Prague in 1946 there is an inward movement of the left hand and arm after the drop; is that an example of decorticate posturing ? It may be simply that the man is not dead. It's a short drop, and we see the executioner manipulating the head, presumably to facilitate dislocation of neck vertebrae.

Among many other atrocities Frank was involved in the massacres at Lidice, and the killing of all male villagers, in reprisal for the assassination of Reinhard Heydrich.

Run from about the 4 minute point.

 

[gingerplum]

Is it comparable to someone braindeath who's body is kept alive artificially, would she cramp too if the machines where shut down?

Well, the only times I've ever seen it, the individuals were brain dead on active life support (in their case, ventilators). I do recall one young guy without any type of external support who was brain dead and postured a lot; he had been struck by lightning and pretty much had his circuits fried.

I honestly can't recall being at bedside with anyone who had 'life support' discontinued. Any posturing or muscle tone probably just relaxes and goes limp.

In this grainy video of the execution of Karl Frank in Prague in 1946 there is an inward movement of the left hand and arm after the drop; is that an example of decorticate posturing ?

Sorta.

I think that's just a post-mortem twitch or jerk; in an instant death like that I'm sure there's a spasm or two.

Whereas in posturing with brain death-- decerebrate or decorticate-- the muscles are held with a lot of "tone." It's really like a rigidity; if you pulled against it, you probably couldn't completely straighten the extremity out.

Source: I'm not an expert by any means, but I've done plenty of bedside nursing on dying and brain-dead patients.

 

[arelia]

This is a medical student video explaining the difference between the two (it's ok, the guy on the trolley is just a demonstrator). So even though it looks like she's trying to get to her neck, it's all involuntary reflexes.

 

[gingerplum]

... even though it looks like she's trying to get to her neck, it's all involuntary reflexes.

Exactly; so glad you said this. I'm sure it's very distressing to think those movements were in any way conscious or deliberate... I'm convinced they're just reflexive.

 

[Sunset Limited]

It looks really peaceful.

Best Gore

 

[Mr2005]

^
Not the best gore then is it? Whatever monster started that disgusting website should kill themselves immediately

 

[Moon Flower]

Did anyone see that video of the Syrian girl hanging in her bedroom (supposedly she was just 'practising' so not 100% sucicide -might have been an accident) & she slips down and gets hypoxia camps & it looks so horrible- I was wondering if anyone knows if she would have felt that sensation or would have been unconscious by the time her body was reacting that way. It really made me think twice about partial-even though that seems the most accesible method for me.

I believe this is the one you were looking for:

Syrian student commits suicide by hanging herself in her dorm

A Syrian student commits suicide in her dorm on camera. I can't find any info apart from friends and family have no idea why she did it

www.documentingreality.com

 

[neilo99]

^
Not the best gore then is it? Whatever monster started that disgusting website should kill themselves immediately

Best gore and theync.com are reasons I'd never contemplate streaming ctb

 

[Lethe]

What's the deal with people posting snuff films lately? The shotgun video thread the other day got deleted. Cut it out.

 

[Rachel74]

What's the deal with people posting snuff films lately? The shotgun video thread the other day got deleted. Cut it out.

It's makes me feel really uneasy. I don't want to see it at all.

 

[veren4h92l]

Thank you arelia, gingerplum.
So if one falls unconscious from the start there is no reflex of getting the hands to the neck/rope in order to stop the process, is it?
And no reflex to stand up either.

It seems the only reflexes are the later breathing/heart heavy attemps, but they are directly linked to the O2/CO2 issue and the brainstem forces it?

Im not sure if it's unawareness. It looks like it is, but what if it is not completely shutting down with the damaged brain?

Ugh I'm getting too sophisticated. Tho anybody else had the sensation the rest of the body also containing some consciousness? Basic amount radiating from the heart ...somehow
I'm rather scared of a disabled heart than such a brain.

 

[arelia]

Thank you arelia, gingerplum.
So if one falls unconscious from the start there is no reflex of getting the hands to the neck/rope in order to stop the process, is it?
And no reflex to stand up either.

It seems the only reflexes are the later breathing/heart heavy attemps, but they are directly linked to the O2/CO2 issue and the brainstem forces it?

Im not sure if it's unawareness. It looks like it is, but what if it is not completely shutting down with the damaged brain?

Ugh I'm getting too sophisticated. Tho anybody else had the sensation the rest of the body also containing some consciousness? Basic amount radiating from the heart ...somehow
I'm rather scared of a disabled heart than such a brain.

It seems you have to be unconscious for decorticate to happen and once you're unconscious, every movement is just the nervous system reaction to the body shutting down. The arms go up when the first part of the brainstem is damaged and then go down when the rest of the brainstem starts to die. So she went unconscious pretty quickly and the rest of it she was unaware of.

 

[Amelia]

https://theync.com/suicide/syrian-girl-suicide-on-webcam.htm

 

[Indieblue]

I thought it was full hanging. She probably pressed her carotid artery with the rope. My arms also move involuntarily when i press mine with my fingers. Hope she is resting in peace.

 

[FreeBIRD]

It's seems so easy to partial hang but yet so complicated. I think we think too much about it but it's human I guess