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Poet Sylvia Plath was born this day in 1932 - died by Carbon Monoxide aged 30 -she had attempted many times before- luckily she carefully sealed off the room- so wasnt crazy/ selfish enough to be one of those people to choose to take their children with them when they decide to ctb, she was married to Ted Hughes also a poet- later on one of his other life partners would also ctb in the same method as Sylvia-is this a tragic coincidence or is there more to it? we will never know. R.I.P Sylvia Plath
 
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luckily she carefully sealed off the room- so wasnt crazy/ selfish enough to be one of those people to choose to take their children with them when they decide to ctb
I thought she gassed herself in her kitchen? Also thought she could've killed a downstairs neighbour - the gas went through the floor and he was found passed out as I remember.
 
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I thought she gassed herself in her kitchen? Also thought she could've killed a downstairs neighbour - the gas went through the floor and he was found passed out as I remember.
[/QUOTE yes she did - I thought she had taken care to seal off all the doors! Guess it might be hard to think clearly in that state of mind, mind you
 
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I felt very still and empty, the way the eye of a tornado must feel, moving dully along in the middle of all the surrounding hullabaloo.

- Sylvia Plath, one of many exquisite pieces of of the Bell Jar, 1963
 
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"I desire the things that will destroy me in the end."
 
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Poet Sylvia Plath was born this day in 1932 - died by Carbon Monoxide aged 30 -she had attempted many times before- luckily she carefully sealed off the room- so wasnt crazy/ selfish enough to be one of those people to choose to take their children with them when they decide to ctb, she was married to Ted Hughes also a poet- later on one of his other life partners would also ctb in the same method as Sylvia-is this a tragic coincidence or is there more to it? we will never know. R.I.P Sylvia Plath
I wonder why Sylvia Ctb? Like what was so bad in her life? I guess I always assume most people do it because their life has some serious problems in it that they can't see a way out of. Especially at such a young age like 30. May not seem young when you are young but it's like usually a pretty healthy age still for most people as long as u lived reasonably healthy lifestyle.
 
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I wonder why Sylvia Ctb? Like what was so bad in her life? I guess I always assume most people do it because their life has some serious problems in it that they can't see a way out of. Especially at such a young age like 30. May not seem young when you are young but it's like usually a pretty healthy age still for most people as long as u lived reasonably healthy lifestyle.

She suffered from major depression most of her life. Her father died while she was young and that traumatized her. She never thought her writing was good enough, she didn't get accepted to a particular writing program, atleast one failed suicide attempt, a miscarriage, Ted Hughes left her and their children for his mistress. Reading her diaries is heartbreaking, though beautiful.
 
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Funny, I started reading her novel last week. I guess it's an occupatiinal hazard with a certain state of mind.
 
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She suffered from major depression most of her life. Her father died while she was young and that traumatized her. She never thought her writing was good enough, she didn't get accepted to a particular writing program, atleast one failed suicide attempt, a miscarriage, Ted Hughes left her and their children for his mistress. Reading her diaries is heartbreaking, though beautiful.
Oh ok, I guess I get it now. Thanks for telling me the story.
 
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Funny, I started reading her novel last week. I guess it's an occupatiinal hazard with a certain state of mind.

A psychologist actually coined the term "The Sylvia Plath Effect" after her death in the early 2000s based on the theory that poets are more suicidal than other writers, and female poets more so than male ones.
 
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I didn't learn about her until a few years ago, but she is one of my favorite poets.
 
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The Bell Jar is one of the few books that have managed to capture the emotional deadness inside a deeply disturbed mind.
I'm also a woman and I'm 20, so a lot of things in the book made me feel identified. Surely, our backgrounds were different, but many of her problems came from the preassure she had as a young woman. And as a young person in general, someone who's supposed to enjoy their youth, but- she was not. She had not been happy ever since her father died, when she was 9. She never grieved properly, and the mouth opened 11 years later.
Her poem Daddy is amazing. I had an absent and abusive father. It certainly hits the hurtful bits.
 
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This Fight Club quote:

In the Tibetan philosophy, Sylvia Plath sense of the word, I know we're all-- we're all dying, all right? But you're not dying the way Chloe back there is dying.
 
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The Bell Jar is one of the few books that have managed to capture the emotional deadness inside a deeply disturbed mind.
I'm also a woman and I'm 20, so a lot of things in the book made me feel identified. Surely, our backgrounds were different, but many of her problems came from the preassure she had as a young woman. And as a young person in general, someone who's supposed to enjoy their youth, but- she was not. She had not been happy ever since her father died, when she was 9. She never grieved properly, and the mouth opened 11 years later.
Her poem Daddy is amazing. I had an absent and abusive father. It certainly hits the hurtful bits.

I did my dissertation on Plath, a large part of it on Daddy. I still have it memorized.

If you haven't I urge you to get a copy of her unabridged journals (Ted butchered the original set released to make himself look better). My copy is falling apart and it's only maybe 5 years olds, stays on my bedside table.
 
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The Bell Jar is one of the few books that have managed to capture the emotional deadness inside a deeply disturbed mind.
I'm also a woman and I'm 20, so a lot of things in the book made me feel identified. Surely, our backgrounds were different, but many of her problems came from the preassure she had as a young woman. And as a young person in general, someone who's supposed to enjoy their youth, but- she was not. She had not been happy ever since her father died, when she was 9. She never grieved properly, and the mouth opened 11 years later.
Her poem Daddy is amazing. I had an absent and abusive father. It certainly hits the hurtful bits.
I love that book- I know this is a terrible thing to say but nonetheless I feel here is the place to say it- in in some ways i would rather of had a parent that had loved me (for however many years) & passed away when I was young-than to have two that are alive - one v.mentally abusive in my younger years - and that ive been estranged from for 20 years, and the other also literally & emotionally absent for most of my life- I know that is a really self indulgent thing to say-and you cant or shouldnt necessarily compare the two-as its a very different type of trauma/ grief-but atleast in the first instance I feel society as a whole (or atleast people close by) seem to be able to comprehend the grief of a death of a parent- but they cant seem to understand or empathise this other kind of grief-when you actual are totally estranged from both parents - but they are still out there in the world somewhere-people seem to think- or have actually said- 'oh it cant be that bad' & then swiftly compare it to when they've had a row with a parent-or a brief spell of being out of touch- or will mention someone that has indeed lost a parent (which again i wont profess to know their own kind of pain) but when you've barely seen a parent for your whole life- and they have not cared for you at all-quite the opposite in fact!- that too has its own unique pain-and I cant even console myself with the fact of - well atleast they loved me & I was wanted whilst they were alive- atleast you can carry that feeling with you in yr heart through the grief & through yr life-its part of what makes me want to ctb- I could have been dead already for years and they wouldnt have noticed or cared - as I have no contact-yet they are out there in the world-the people that bought you into existence-its a very strange feeling to say the least...just stuck forever with so many why's?!
 
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I love that book- I know this is a terrible thing to say but nonetheless I feel here is the place to say it- in in some ways i would rather of had a parent that had loved me (for however many years) & passed away when I was young-than to have two that are alive - one mentally abusive - and that ive been estranged from for 20 years, and the other also literally & emotionally absent for most of my life- I know that is a really self indulgent thing to say-and you cant or shouldnt necessarily compare the two-as its a very different type of trauma/ grief-but atleast in the first instance I feel society as a whole (or atleast people close by) seem to be able to comprehend the grief of a death of parent- but they cant seem to understand or empathise this other kind of grief-when you actual are totally estranged from both parents - but they are still out there in the world somewhere-people seem to think- or have actually said- 'oh it cant be that bad' & then swiftly compare it to when they've had a row with a parent-or a brief spell of being out of touch- or will mention someone that has indeed lost a parent (which again i wont profess to know their own kind of pain) but when you've barely seen a parent for your whole life- and they have not cared for you at all-quite the opposite in fac!t- that too has its own unique pain-and I cant even console myself with the fact of - well atleast they loved me & I was wanted- at least you can carry that feeling with you in yr heart through the grief& through yr life-its part of what makes me want to ctb- I could have been dead already for years and they wouldnt have noticed or cared - as I have no contact-yet they are out there in the world-the people that bought you into existence-its a very strange feeling to say the least...just stuck forever with so many why's?!
I know all too well that feeling I was raised by my dad and he was and still is abusive in every form of the word. He messaged all of his adult children including me two Decembers ago calling us all failures. I recently called him out for everything he did to me growing up. My sister and I talked a few months ago, she asked why he kicked me up the stairs with steal toed shoes. And we reminisced on how much he drank, he was an alcoholic. I don't know if he is now, but I won't touch alcohol because of him. He chose our step mom that hated us over his own kids. Plus he kept me from my mom and told me so many lies. I don't have the greatest relationship with her, but because of everything I've been through I understand how she shut down and quit fighting.

I wish nothing more than to have had a normal childhood, maybe I wouldn't have looked for love and acceptance in others that took advantage of that. Maybe I could still be lost in some sort of version of happiness instead of this endless pain.
 
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I know all too well that feeling I was raised by my dad and he was and still is abusive in every form of the word. He messaged all of his adult children including me two Decembers ago calling us all failures. I recently called him out for everything he did to me growing up. My sister and I talked a few months ago, she asked why he kicked me up the stairs with steal toed shoes. And we reminisced on how much he drank, he was an alcoholic. I don't know if he is now, but I won't touch alcohol because of him. He chose our step mom that hated us over his own kids. Plus he kept me from my mom and told me so many lies. I don't have the greatest relationship with her, but because of everything I've been through I understand how she shut down and quit fighting.

I wish nothing more than to have had a normal childhood, maybe I wouldn't have looked for love and acceptance in others that took advantage of that. Maybe I could still be lost in some sort of version of happiness instead of this endless pain.

I can relate. It's enraging to realize that you were denied a functional life.
 
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I can relate. It's enraging to realize that you were denied a functional life.
I don't get mad anymore, it gets me nowhere and I don't have the fight in me like I used to. I'm more just ready to end the pain, it just hurts who I will hurt in the process. I've just given up, I'm ready to be done with everything, I feel like my life was not salvageable from the beginning. I'm kinda at peace I don't have the anger I did when I was younger, but the pain and sadness seem to have multiplied to make up for it.
 
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I know all too well that feeling I was raised by my dad and he was and still is abusive in every form of the word. He messaged all of his adult children including me two Decembers ago calling us all failures. I recently called him out for everything he did to me growing up. My sister and I talked a few months ago, she asked why he kicked me up the stairs with steal toed shoes. And we reminisced on how much he drank, he was an alcoholic. I don't know if he is now, but I won't touch alcohol because of him. He chose our step mom that hated us over his own kids. Plus he kept me from my mom and told me so many lies. I don't have the greatest relationship with her, but because of everything I've been through I understand how she shut down and quit fighting.

I wish nothing more than to have had a normal childhood, maybe I wouldn't have looked for love and acceptance in others that took advantage of that. Maybe I could still be lost in some sort of version of happiness instead of this endless pain.
I'm sorry-its horrible isnt it-just trying to wrap yr head around why they have treated u this way-when they bloody chose to have u in the first place- i wish i'd had one person that had been there-like a random loving aunt/uncle for example or caring sibling or someone-anyone that could have understood and even slightly filled the lack of love & care void-but i had the same-my step mum has always hated me-my sister was nothing but a bully to me (like my mother part two basically) , it too has shaped the type of people ive let into my life, how i have accepted to be treated by others- from such low sense of self worth-I tried to escape-physically & emotionally from all of it-but it seems all these things, esp, formative years have sadly impinged on every aspect of my adult life-I hate myself even more for not being able to transcend all that & to have thrived anyway-I know some people do- I fought it for yrs-I thought I was strong-resilient-and had overcome many things in the face of adversity-but it seemingly has all caught up with me & I couldnt escape my past-and like yourself-feel stuck in pain- I feel like i was trying to outrun it all my whole life-and I ultimately failed
 
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I'm sorry-its horrible isnt it-just trying to wrap yr head around why they have treated u this way-when they bloody chose to have u in the first place- i wish i'd had one person that had been there-like a random loving aunt/uncle for example or caring sibling or someone-anyone that could have understood and even slightly filled the lack of love & care void-but i had the same-my step mum has always hated me-my sister was nothing but a bully to me (like my mother part two basically) , it too has shaped the type of people ive let into my life, how i have accepted to be treated by others- from such low sense of self worth-I tried to escape-physically & emotionally from all of it-but it seems all these things, esp, formative years have sadly impinged on every aspect of my adult life-I hate myself even more for not being able to transcend all that & to have thrived anyway-I know some people do- I fought it for yrs-I thought I was strong-resilient-and had overcome many things in the face of adversity-but it seemingly has all caught up with me & I couldnt escape my past-and like yourself-feel stuck in pain- I feel like i was trying to outrun it all my whole life-and I ultimately failed
The cycle of abuse is terrible, I've definitely heard all those buzz words resilient, and able to overcome adversity. I'm sorry you've been through what you have. No one deserves pain, if you ever need to vent let me know, at least while I'm still around I'm hoping to go sooner rather than later.
 
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The cycle of abuse is terrible, I've definitely heard all those buzz words resilient, and able to overcome adversity. I'm sorry you've been through what you have. No one deserves pain, if you ever need to vent let me know, at least while I'm still around I'm hoping to go sooner rather than later.
Thku- i wanted to have some chldrn myself at some point- and was looking foward to breaking that cycle-to give them everything i didnt have (not materially particularly-just love, affection etc) but now im far to screwed up-thats just another hope (of many) that could never come true. likewise about venting but also likewise about sooner rather than later for myself.
 
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I don't get mad anymore, it gets me nowhere and I don't have the fight in me like I used to. I'm more just ready to end the pain, it just hurts who I will hurt in the process. I've just given up, I'm ready to be done with everything, I feel like my life was not salvageable from the beginning. I'm kinda at peace I don't have the anger I did when I was younger, but the pain and sadness seem to have multiplied to make up for it.

Once more I can relate. A big question is whether or
 
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Sylvia Plath's son, Nicholas Hughes, CTB'd in 2009. Linda Sexton (Anne Sexton's daughter who accused Sexton of molesting her. Sexton CTB'd via carbon monoxide poisoning in 1974) wrote this when Hughes died.
Assia Wevill (the woman Ted Hughes cheated on Plath with) CTB'd 6 years later than Plath. She gassed herself and her daughter. She said she wasn't leaving her daughter behind because the girl was too old to be adopted.
It has to be said both Plath and Wevill were poor, single mothers at the time of their CTB. Plath did make an attempt to recover despite the state she was in - she CTB'd during the coldest winter in England in the past 200 years, I believe. She asked her Dr to be put on antidepressants (IIRC, Ted Hughes blamed the drugs for causing an "allergic reaction" during the investigation). Wevill was a publicist and relatively successful, but ended up getting fired. As far as I know, Hughes had moved on with other women and appeared to be cold towards Wevill's daughter, but treated Sylvia's children well (his sister helped him raised them.)
You can't CTB by gassing yourself, anymore, I think.

Sylvia Plath: Jillian Becker on the poet's last days

In February 1963, American poet Sylvia Plath killed herself in her flat in London. Plath had been struggling to cope with the separation from her husband, Ted Hughes. During the last months of her life, Plath became friends with the writer Jillian Becker - this is Becker's account of their last days together.

On a freezing afternoon in February 1963, Sylvia arrived with her children, Frieda and Nick, at my house on Mountfort Crescent, off Barnsbury Square in Islington.
She had called to ask if she could come, so I was expecting her. As soon as she came in she said she would like to lie down.
It was no surprise to me. She was plainly feeling low, even more so than had been usual in the five months or so that I had known her.
I had met her in September 1962, shortly after her marriage to Ted Hughes had broken up.
I felt sorry for her. I admired and envied her talent. Our times together had not been merry, but still I liked her company.
She had given me a signed copy of her book of poems, The Colossus, and we had talked about poetry and many other things.
I led her upstairs to my eldest daughter's room. My husband Gerry was sleeping off a bout of flu in our bedroom.
I took the children to play with my youngest daughter, Madeleine, in a downstairs room where the noise would not disturb the sleepers. Nick was about the same age as Madeleine, a little over one year old. Frieda was nearly three.
Sylvia slept for an hour or two, then came to find us. She told me she would "rather not go home".
It was easy for me to let them stay. My two older girls, Claire and Lucy, were away for the weekend, so I had a room for Sylvia and another for her children.
She handed me the keys to her apartment in Fitzroy Road and asked me to fetch a few things for her - toothbrushes… nightclothes… her medication… a particular dress… a couple of books she had started reading - which I did.
When I got back, I bathed and fed Frieda and Nick with Madeleine, and when all three were settled for the night, I made dinner for Sylvia and Gerry and myself.
Chicken soup was ready as a remedy for Gerry's flu, and it seemed to do Sylvia good too. We followed it with steaks from a great French butcher in Soho, and mashed potato and salad. Sylvia ate heartily, and said how good it all was.
I don't remember what we chatted about, only that it was not about her own predicament. Not then.
But later she asked me to come and sit beside her, showed me bottles of pills and told me which of them helped her to sleep and which got her going in the morning.
She swallowed sleeping pills at about 10 o'clock, but prattled on for an hour or more about people I didn't know as if they were mutual friends.
She seemed to be rambling, and I thought it was because she was growing sleepy.
Then her tone changed, and she talked emotionally and energetically about Ted and Assia Wevill, the woman he had left her for.
She was bitter, she was jealous, she was angry.
Ted had taken Assia to Spain. She wished she could take the children to Spain, to somewhere in the sun, away from this freezing weather. The children, she said, had not been well, they needed to go somewhere warm, somewhere by the sea.
I said I would take her and the children to sun and sea in the Easter holidays, though I'd prefer Italy to Spain. "Easter," she said, "is a long way off. "
It was almost midnight when she fell asleep and I was able at last to go to bed myself.
But an hour or so later Nick woke up. I warmed a bottle of milk for him and, hearing Sylvia call out to us, I took him to her so that she could feed him. Frieda came to her mother's bed too.
After I'd got them back in their own beds, Sylvia asked me if I thought it was time for her to take her wake-up pills. I told her no, it was much too early.
But she couldn't sleep. She asked me would I stay with her a while. I sat near her bed with the lamp switched off and only the light from the landing slanting into the room.
She would close her eyes, but suddenly open them, and once half rose, saw that I was still there, and lay down again as if reassured by my presence.
When I was certain she was asleep I went to my own bed.
In the morning, after she'd taken her medication and devoured a good breakfast, she phoned a young woman who had promised to come and stay with her as an au pair to help look after the children but had changed her mind. Sylvia spent a long time trying to persuade her to change it back again with no success.

Her doctor spoke to me on the phone. I had known Dr Horder for longer than I had known Sylvia. He told me not to do everything for the children, that Sylvia must look after them, she must feel that they needed her.
So I asked her to come with me when I took them to the bathroom, when I prepared their meals, when Nick needed feeding and changing. But she didn't pick up soap or towel, or a spoon, or a safety pin.
I'd leave the room, but she'd wait for me to return. My choice was to let them go unwashed, unfed, unchanged, or do the job myself. Mostly I did it.
On the next evening Sylvia put on the blue and silver dress I had fetched for her.
She had taken time and trouble over her hair. She almost smiled - certainly seemed pleased - when I said she looked beautiful.
She told me she was going to meet someone, but not who it was.
She kissed Frieda and Nick goodnight. Frieda followed her to the front door, and just before Sylvia opened it, she bent down to the little girl and said, "I love you!"
I learnt days later that it was Ted she met that night. He drove her back to our house. I don't remember what time she returned, or anything she said.
I do remember that the next day she joined us at the table for our usual ample Sunday lunch of soup, roast meat with the usual trimmings, and cheese, dessert, and wine.
I remember that she enjoyed it. She fed Nick. She seemed, if not cheerful, at least far less dejected. We lingered over our coffee, talking contentedly.
The children went to sleep, and as the wine had made us sleepy too, we all three went to our rooms to lie down and doze until about four o'clock.
We had tea. Gerry, well again, played with the children. The winter evening was closing in.
Claire and Lucy would be brought home soon. I was considering how I would accommodate everyone.
There were two spare rooms and a bathroom on the top floor and I was trying to decide whether to put Sylvia and the children up there, or keep them on the same floor with me and move my daughters to the top rooms, when Sylvia suddenly said: "I must get back. I have to sort the laundry. And I'm expecting a nurse to call in the morning, the one who came to help with Nick while he was ill."
And she began briskly gathering things together and putting them in carrier bags. In those moments she actually seemed invigorated, almost elated, as I hadn't seen her before.
Gerry asked her if she was sure she wanted to go. She said she was.
So he drove her cautiously through the snow-slushy streets in his car - an old black London taxi with the meter removed.
It was a rattler, and sitting alone in the front he couldn't hear what anyone in the back might be saying.
Only when he stopped at a red light did he hear the sound of weeping. He parked the car and went to sit on a jump seat opposite Sylvia.
As she went on crying, the children began crying too. He took them on his knees.
He implored her to let him bring them back to our house. She refused. She became calm and insisted they go on to Fitzroy Road.
He saw her into her apartment. He promised her he would look in on her next day.
He came back and told me that he wished she had stayed on with us, that he didn't think she could cope on her own.
I knew he was right, yet I wasn't entirely sorry she had left. I would not have to go on being nurse to her and her children.
My daughters would not have to give up their rooms. I would have no more interrupted nights.
And pity tires the heart.
For which thoughts I was to endure long remorse.
On the Monday morning at about eight o'clock the phone rang. I answered, and Dr Horder told me Sylvia had put her head in the gas oven and was dead.

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I know this thread is about Plath, but I love this quote by Assia Wevill so much:

"I was endowed with too many minor qualities, but with neither the will or the huge intelligence to bring them a life of their own."
 
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I've begun to wonder if depression isn't just one long emotional flashback that is triggered by events or unhealthy relationships. Much of it coming from childhood trauma. I mean yeah one can get depressed because of isolation or losing a loved one, but I'm talking about that depression that seems to come out of nowhere and there's no obvious reason for it. You can be triggered into it by dynamics from childhood still playing out in adulthood, bad self image or unstable sense of self. Destructive inner critic.
 
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I've begun to wonder if depression isn't just one long emotional flashback that is triggered by events or unhealthy relationships. Much of it coming from childhood trauma. I mean yeah one can get depressed because of isolation or losing a loved one, but I'm talking about that depression that seems to come out of nowhere and there's no obvious reason for it. You can be triggered into it by dynamics from childhood still playing out in adulthood, bad self image or unstable sense of self. Destructive inner critic.

That's a good description. I either see it as poor mental and behavioral patterns developed and learned from an awful childhood and/or coming to the realization of something relating to the awful childhood.
 
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That's a good description. I either see it as poor mental and behavioral patterns developed and learned from an awful childhood and/or coming to the realization of something relating to the awful childhood.
This was what caused depression in my case. I had lots of trauma happen in childhood and as a result I developed poor coping tools and no emotional literacy. I guess many people do not understand their emotions or fear the painful ones trying to suppress them instead of listening to what they are trying to tell u. Suppressing and ignoring your emotions will make u keep repeating actions, behaviors, and staying in situations that continue to make u miserable. So this is why being placed on antidepressants is actually dangerous for u. Instead letting your feelings and stuff guide u and keep u safe u are numbing them out to tolerate intolerable situations and environments, or people who are bad for u.
 
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This was what caused depression in my case. I had lots of trauma happen in childhood and as a result I developed poor coping tools and no emotional literacy. I guess many people do not understand their emotions or fear the painful ones trying to suppress them instead of listening to what they are trying to tell u. Suppressing and ignoring your emotions will make u keep repeating actions, behaviors, and staying in situations that continue to make u miserable. So this is why being placed on antidepressants is actually dangerous for u. Instead letting your feelings and stuff guide u and keep u safe u are numbing them out to tolerate intolerable situations and environments, or people who are bad for u.

Same. These days whenever I improve I get decked in the face with the realization that I could have been like this years ago if I did not have the abuse and neglect. Cue the rage and depression.

Prozac actually didn't numb me out. It did help cut the rage and depression so they dissipate much quicker and, in general, I'm feeling better. That might be a result of finally being able to process stuff.

I did do my share of self-medicating, numbing behaviors. You are absolutely correct about facing the negative emotions.
 
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