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Not a Cylon

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Jun 27, 2024
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Well that was fast. I wonder if the issue is that software powers on the device rather than the individual powering it on from within the pod?
 
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Artemisia

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Disgusting how the religious nutjobs and the sickness industry will always fight for the slowest possible deaths. How would the first make money by keeping people scared and the second make money by sucking up every penny the person had saved during her working life? It's all business as usual!
 
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MBG

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Jul 14, 2023
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Well that was fast. I wonder if the issue is that software powers on the device rather than the individual powering it on from within the pod?
The software powers on the device if you correctly answer 3 questions. You still have to press the button to start the process and there is a button to immediately stop the process and an emergency exit. Watch the video that is embedded in the article.

From the article:

In an interview with MailOnline last year, Dr Nitschke explained how his invention works.

'The person will climb into the machine, they will be asked three questions and they will answer verbally - 'Who are you?', 'Where are you?' and 'Do you know what happens if you press the button?'

'And if they answer those questions verbally, the software then switches the power on so that the button can then be pressed.

'And if they press the button they will die very quickly.
This also puts more pressure on Respiro to fix whatever problems their Rebreather lll had and release a Rebreather lV.
 
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The software powers on the device if you correctly answer 3 questions. You still have to press the button to start the process and there is a button to immediately stop the process and an emergency exit. Watch the video that is embedded in the article.

From the article:

In an interview with MailOnline last year, Dr Nitschke explained how his invention works.

'The person will climb into the machine, they will be asked three questions and they will answer verbally - 'Who are you?', 'Where are you?' and 'Do you know what happens if you press the button?'

'And if they answer those questions verbally, the software then switches the power on so that the button can then be pressed.

'And if they press the button they will die very quickly.

That's why wondering why the authorities states this has their rational:

"Public Prosecutor Peter Sticher warned of 'serious consequences' for Nitschke for 'inducement and aiding and abetting suicide for selfish reasons'.

In a letter obtained by Swiss media, Sticher said: 'There is no reliable information about the method of killing.

'[It is] completely unclear who has control over which mechanical process during the dying process.'"


They state it's an issue with the mechanical process, which makes me wonder if verbal authorization to software is insufficient. I'm not familiar with their laws.
 
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ThisIsMe1357

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May 20, 2024
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What is the likelihood of a referendum taking place on such a very specific issue? Or at least a one in the canton of Zurich? It seems to me that people would be more in favour of it being used than not.
 
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MBG

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Jul 14, 2023
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What is the likelihood of a referendum taking place on such a very specific issue? Or at least a one in the canton of Zurich? It seems to me that people would be more in favour of it being used than not.
My guess is prosecution will ultimately fail because: (a) Nitch isn't making any money off of Sarco (he made plan public domain), and (b) the user pushes the button to start process themselves after correctly answering the 3 questions and can push the button to stop process at any time (or use emergency exit).

Even if the prosecutor wins at trial, my guess is they'll lose upon appeal.

IOW this prosecution is a threat to intimidate Nitsch into standing down. I hope Nitsch has big buck donors to fight this.

Re not being an approved medical device and ability to get such approval: that involves details that keep me from even guessing.
 
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J&L383

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Jul 18, 2023
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The device is making lots of people nervous. Which is understandable. I would say it's going to be some time if and ever this gets deployed. 🤷‍♂️
 
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MBG

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Jul 14, 2023
283
Everyone be sure to search news sites over next few weeks to see if Nitschke responds and if so, what he says and post that on SanSui with link to news source. Thx!
 
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MBG

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Jul 14, 2023
283
Here's an article from 5 days ago saying they expect first use of Ssrco in a few weeks. My guess is sometime before September, assuming the threat of prosecution doesn't deter Nitschke.

 
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MBG

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Jul 14, 2023
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In some American states you can petition their courts for an advisory opinion before you undertake a legally questionable act. Thus you will know ahead of time whether you can legally do that act or not. I wonder if Swiss courts will issue advisory opinions?