Suicides for 2022 already at 47,000 in US

[Lookingtotalk]

With everything going on between psych drugs street drugs botched surgeries true mental illness chronic pain covid shot and virus complications and host of other reasons i read from people on here, i have a feeling this number is going to continue to climb until people start fucking standing up and saying something about this shit, preventing some of this stuff in some way.

We are only into september so far for this year, look at the change from 2001 onward, i mean it is staggering, whereas before it was pretty stangnant line, thoughts?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FTtqhQOXwBYA6p8?format=jpg&name=900x900

 

[FuneralCry]

I believe that as time goes on, the amount of suicides will certainly increase. After all, we live in such a cruel and unfair world with unlimited potential for suffering. I don't find it surprising at all that so many people decide to ctb, I envy those who have left this world as they don't have to endure this pointless existence anymore.

 

[Hope:-)]

Am I the only person who doesn't consider that a very high figure considering the size of the general population? In fact, it makes me feel like what is wrong with me that I would be among such a small number of people relatively speaking. :-/ (Edited to add: Not that I have any shame in standing among them, but the relative figure makes me feel odd in want of a better word.)

 

[outrider567]

With everything going on between psych drugs street drugs botched surgeries true mental illness chronic pain covid shot and virus complications and host of other reasons i read from people on here, i have a feeling this number is going to continue to climb until people start fucking standing up and saying something about this shit, preventing some of this stuff in some way.

We are only into september so far for this year, look at the change from 2001 onward, i mean it is staggering, whereas before it was pretty stangnant line, thoughts?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FTtqhQOXwBYA6p8?format=jpg&name=900x900

Suicide Rates for Europe and the US:
Belgium 18.3----Hungary 16.6----Croatia 16.4----Finland 15.3---Sweden 14.7----Austria 14.6---France 13.8---United States 13.5

 

[LaVieEnRose]

Am I the only person who doesn't consider that a very high figure considering the size of the general population? In fact, it makes me feel like what is wrong with me that I would be among such a small number of people relatively speaking. :-/

A successful suicide is a rare event and the rate in American has been increasing. 20 yars ago it was less than 40,000 a year. Keep in mind that that this year there were also attempts that were unsuccessful that aren't reflected in that number. And of course millions more who have had suicidal ideation but didn't make an attempt. People who want to live will always be the majority.

 

[Lookingtotalk]

Am I the only person who doesn't consider that a very high figure considering the size of the general population? In fact, it makes me feel like what is wrong with me that I would be among such a small number of people relatively speaking. :-/

We had an uncommon thing happen to us, the fact it is going up at the rate its at is alarming though

A successful suicide is a rare event and the rate in American has been increasing. 20 yars ago it was less than 40,000 a year. Keep in mind that that this year there were also attempts that were unsuccessful that aren't reflected in that number. And of course millions more who have had suicidal ideation but didn't make an attempt. People who want to live will always be the majority.

To put it in perspective though, on average 99 people die in car accidents a day 130 people die by suicide a day

 

[DeadManLiving]

Am I the only person who doesn't consider that a very high figure considering the size of the general population? In fact, it makes me feel like what is wrong with me that I would be among such a small number of people relatively speaking. :-/ (Edited to add: Not that I have any shame in standing among them, but the relative figure makes me feel odd in want of a better word.)

Suicides are critically underreported. My cousin's death was a suicide but the coroner's office ruled it an overdose. Duh! It was a suicide by overdose, not an overdose. I would fare to say that at least a third, if not half of all overdose deaths were intentional or at least quasi intentional.

So add another 30-40,000 people to the base statistic, plus other miscellaneous causes of deaths incorrectly classified as "[accidental] unspecified poisoning" misclassifications, DNRs/advance directives, clinical euthanasia, suicide by cop (misclassified as shootings), etc ...

That should give you an approximate figure on attempted suicide cases which succeeded. Then there's the other larger fraction of unsuccessful attempted suicides.

All together the attempted plus successfully attempted suicide figures should be the best indicator of where things are on the thermostat.

Very likely closer to 150-200,000. A very small percentage but it takes a lot of objective reasoning to commit suicide. Extreme objective reasoning ability. Elsewhere on the spectrum, suicide just can't register for most which carry on mechanically and robotically attempting to brute force an impossible course.

 

[Lookingtotalk]

Suicides are critically underreported. My cousin's death was a suicide but the coroner's office ruled it an overdose. Duh! It was a suicide by overdose, not an overdose. I would fare to say that at least a third, if not half of all overdose deaths were intentional or at least quasi intentional.

So add another 30-40,000 people to the base statistic, plus other miscellaneous causes of deaths incorrectly classified as "[accidental] unspecified poisoning" misclassifications, DNRs/advance directives, clinical euthanasia, suicide by cop (misclassified as shootings), etc ...

That should give you an approximate figure on attempted suicide cases which succeeded. Then there's the other larger fraction of unsuccessful attempted suicides.

All together the attempted plus successfully attempted suicide figures should be the best indicator of where things are on the thermostat.

Very likely closer to 150-200,000. A very small percentage but it takes a lot of objective reasoning to commit suicide. Extreme objective reasoning ability. Elsewhere on the spectrum, suicide just can't register for most which carry on mechanically and robotically attempting to brute force an impossible course.

Also, a lot of good points!

 

[Felix007]

Am I the only person who doesn't consider that a very high figure considering the size of the general population? In fact, it makes me feel like what is wrong with me that I would be among such a small number of people relatively speaking. :-/ (Edited to add: Not that I have any shame in standing among them, but the relative figure makes me feel odd in want of a better word.)

well, dont forget that only 4-5% of all suicide attempts are successful, so that means if 50k people have died, then 1million have attempted suicide which is quite substantial in a population of 330million...

 

[melancholic]

When you look at the Orwellian nightmare that our society has become over the last 20 years, is it really any wonder why these rates are increasing? My suicidal ideations have been around since the 90s, but the last few decades have made it so much worse.

We spend $800 billion a year for the defense budget and trillions on forever wars, but somehow can't afford healthcare for our citizens. We bail out banks and airlines but can't solve the skyrocketing homelessness or pay for teachers' school supplies. Mass surveillance and censorship, and the police have become militarized. Mass shootings have become normalized. Women's and gay rights are being stripped away. Being openly racist like we're in the 1960s again is somehow acceptable. Political and corporate corruption that is never held accountable. PFAS chemicals in all our food and rainwater no longer safe to drink. Most young Americans can't afford to buy a home anymore. COVID isolation. Climate change. Corporations passing off their inflation greed as "supply and demand." Most of us pay 1/3 of our income in taxes while billionaires often pay none. 70 million of our citizens worship a con man and truly believe that Jewish space lasers started the wildfires in California. We are expected to be obedient worker bees for 40-50 years and if we're lucky to make it to retirement age, most of us will die off of some disease a few years later and not "leech" off the Social Security benefits we earned - a win-win for the government. I could go on and on.

I wish that I could be like the majority of people who are able to find enough distractions in life to keep themselves going. Some of these people are friends of mine and they ask me why I am so pessimistic. Really? Take off the rose-colored glasses and see what this world has become. Increasing suicide rates are hardly surprising, and I am soon to become part of those rates. I have no more desire to stick around in this dystopia.