KuriGohan&Kamehameha
想死不能 - 想活不能
- Nov 23, 2020
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You can go back to the absolute baby days of the old net to prove that pro- choice, open dialogue sites like SS have always existed.
Here you can read some posts from net.suicide, which is one of the oldest newsgroup hierarchies that spawned during the absolute stone ages of old Internet (a period where the Internet as we know it was not accessible to the common layman/consumer, but you could access basic forum like services using local dial up servers) : http://ash.notearthday.org/netsuicide/811208-1.html
As you can see, this post is 40 years old. This post was being typed on someone's ancient unix machinery decades before I or most of us here ever spawned into existence. Certainly, there was a need them for this sort of space, and this desire for open dialogue has persisted as our existences become more and more entertwined with technology (subtle Lainpill)
After net was phased out, the alt hierarchy of usenet became a popular hub for all the freaks, weirdos, and outcasts whose topics of conversations didn't quite mesh with the bigger, run of the mill discussion groups that were reserved for things like sports and news. To no one's surprise, many groups revolving around taboo topics like suicide would quickly crop up.
From my research, I've figured out that alt.suicide.holiday (ASH) was the main hang out for suicidal people in the oldnet era. Alongside ASH, there was a discussion group solely focused on methods. (It is crazy to read some of the stuff people in the 90s would get up to in order to find methods, like pretending to be jewelers and constructing an elaborate larp where they would pretend to have a vetted interest in ring polishing)
This board was very active from the early 90s to the mid 2000s, when dial up and usenet and all the outdated technology became less and less desirable and was replaced by a modern paradigm of social media.
You can read posts from ASH here: http://ash.notearthday.org/nazgsoul.html#Miscellaneous writings including poetry, soliloquies, and final goodbyes left by users, but a lot of the links are broken and content is missing due to old servers being dead or sites like geocities getting nuked.
It's bizarre to me that the outside world thinks that the sentiment expressed by SS members is a new phenomenon. In the 90s, those who would be called "prolifers" were supposedly referred to as shiny happy people on ASH (which tbh, I am down to adopt this terminology instead cause it is much more fitting)
As long as we are silenced in the mainstream circles, places like this forum will continue to exist. I've done a lot of research into this topic because I am interested to see how people like me were percieved in the past few decades, and how they expressed themselves before the advent of social media which is rife with metric tons of censorship, however, a lot of information has been lost to time.
My main point is, spaces like ours are never going away, as the fundamental drive to express ourselves without judgement or censorship simply doesn't exist anywhere else.
Here you can read some posts from net.suicide, which is one of the oldest newsgroup hierarchies that spawned during the absolute stone ages of old Internet (a period where the Internet as we know it was not accessible to the common layman/consumer, but you could access basic forum like services using local dial up servers) : http://ash.notearthday.org/netsuicide/811208-1.html
As you can see, this post is 40 years old. This post was being typed on someone's ancient unix machinery decades before I or most of us here ever spawned into existence. Certainly, there was a need them for this sort of space, and this desire for open dialogue has persisted as our existences become more and more entertwined with technology (subtle Lainpill)
After net was phased out, the alt hierarchy of usenet became a popular hub for all the freaks, weirdos, and outcasts whose topics of conversations didn't quite mesh with the bigger, run of the mill discussion groups that were reserved for things like sports and news. To no one's surprise, many groups revolving around taboo topics like suicide would quickly crop up.
From my research, I've figured out that alt.suicide.holiday (ASH) was the main hang out for suicidal people in the oldnet era. Alongside ASH, there was a discussion group solely focused on methods. (It is crazy to read some of the stuff people in the 90s would get up to in order to find methods, like pretending to be jewelers and constructing an elaborate larp where they would pretend to have a vetted interest in ring polishing)
This board was very active from the early 90s to the mid 2000s, when dial up and usenet and all the outdated technology became less and less desirable and was replaced by a modern paradigm of social media.
You can read posts from ASH here: http://ash.notearthday.org/nazgsoul.html#Miscellaneous writings including poetry, soliloquies, and final goodbyes left by users, but a lot of the links are broken and content is missing due to old servers being dead or sites like geocities getting nuked.
It's bizarre to me that the outside world thinks that the sentiment expressed by SS members is a new phenomenon. In the 90s, those who would be called "prolifers" were supposedly referred to as shiny happy people on ASH (which tbh, I am down to adopt this terminology instead cause it is much more fitting)
As long as we are silenced in the mainstream circles, places like this forum will continue to exist. I've done a lot of research into this topic because I am interested to see how people like me were percieved in the past few decades, and how they expressed themselves before the advent of social media which is rife with metric tons of censorship, however, a lot of information has been lost to time.
My main point is, spaces like ours are never going away, as the fundamental drive to express ourselves without judgement or censorship simply doesn't exist anywhere else.
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