Discussion Suicide shouldn't be stigmatized as a sad/ depressed act

[caliban]

The more i think about suicide, the more i feel like it should be treated as any other way of dying. Of course, the majority of the people who commit suicide are depressed, but i also think that when we end this journey and look back, we should also think about the many good parts our life had. The majority of people think that someone who killed themselves had a horrible life. I think that most of the time, it's just enough. Either because the future doesn't have any promising things for us, or because we already fulfilled our wishes.

I personally looking back at my life think that i had many good journeys and experiences. I love my good memories and accept the sad ones. I feel like i saw enough and lived enough. Looking forward to die, i anticipate relief and peace. I really hope that there isn't an afterlife. I had my fair part of existence, my share of blessings and condemnations. My story which is unique in some ways, but could be any of the billions as well. Afterall we all will fade and be forgotten, which is the way things should be. We only feel how much we lived when we understand the catharsis of letting go. Soon i will die, and the world will die from my perspective. It all feels oddly comforting.

Sorry for my english it's my third language, love y'all

 

[Ico]

I completely agree. Ending my life just makes objective sense. I'm not 'sad' or 'depressed' in the clinical sense.

Instead, I suffer from ASD, ADD, and constant nerve pain (ablations no longer have any efficacy). I struggle to make ends meet and support a family by myself, will never get to retire, and am worth more dead than alive. If there was a way to end it all while making it look like an accident, I would do it in a hot minute. This way, my wife and daughter would get a lump sum payout to build a better life than I could ever provide outside of the United States (wife has family in Australia).

Instead, they're shackled to...this.

 

[Meteora]

Thank you for those words. I totally agree. Yes, I am depressed. And yes, I fought like a lion to improve my situation. I reached a point where painful things keep repeating themselves and I m just tired, exhausted and don t think I will ever be free. I ve suffered enough for my taste . And I was also lucky at times, experienced many things, became a mature personality, I would say.

So you have a clear plan to go?

 

[caliban]

So you have a clear plan to go?

I plan to poison myself with yew, it's a bit risky though, so wish me luck.

Yes, I am depressed. And yes, I fought like a lion to improve my situation. I reached a point where painful things keep repeating themselves and I m just tired, exhausted and don t think I will ever be free. I ve suffered enough for my taste . And I was also lucky at times, experienced many things, became a mature personality, I would say.

I want to let you know that altough i don't know you, i'm really proud of you. I hope you will find your peace and remember all those nice memories :)

 

[SexyIncél]

I agree. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if other societies included suicidal people into their social practices!

• Was human sacrifice actually a path for suicidal people to feel glorified & admired?
• Did people transition from childhood to adulthood, via a dream journey where they could conceivably worry about survival (because they're alone in the wilderness) — getting insights by reaching the cusp of nonexistence?

 

[Meteora]

I plan to poison myself with yew, it's a bit risky though, so wish me luck.

Ooooh that might be risky indeed.

I want to let you know that altough i don't know you, i'm really proud of you. I hope you will find your peace and remember all those nice memories :)

Thank you. I wished to bring my "new self" out in the world, to help making some change but it is not possible.

Now I understand your subtitle :)

 

[caliban]

Ooooh that might be risky indeed.

Yeah, sadly it's half as poisonous during summer than in winter. But i really don't want to wait until january...

I wished to bring my "new self" out in the world, to help making some change but it is not possible.

What are the problems you're facing? (If you don't mind me asking so personally)

By the way my dad is swiss, so it's great to see here someone from there :)

I suffer from ASD, ADD, and constant nerve pain (ablations no longer have any efficacy). I struggle to make ends meet and support a family by myself, will never get to retire, and am worth more dead than alive. If there was a way to end it all while making it look like an accident, I would do it in a hot minute. This way, my wife and daughter would get a lump sum payout to build a better life than I could ever provide outside of the United States (wife has family in Australia).

Instead, they're shackled to...this.

I'm really sad to hear about your situation. It feels specially close to me, since my dad is disabled. I don't know how things work in the US, but can you request any aid? For us it helped a lot. I know it's really hard but I'm sure your wife and family loves you

 

[Meteora]

Yeah, sadly it's half as poisonous during summer than in winter. But i really don't want to wait until january...

Hm ok. But it takes long and might not work out?

What are he problems you're facing? (If you don't mind me asking so personally)

I have DID, a very nasty mental disorder that isolates you from both yourself and others.

By the way my dad is swiss, so it's great to see here someone from there :)

Oh really, that s nice.
And where are you from?

 

[FuneralCry]

Suicide should never be stigmatised, I think it's absurd to stigmatise suicide so much as after all to die is the most normal thing, we are destined for nothing but to cease existing where all will be forgotten about and nobody is obligated to continue enduring this existence they were burdened with until they die anyway.

People act like suicide is such a terrible tragedy but in reality it's something relieving and freeing, it's the prevention of all future harms, it's just someone taking control over their inevitable fate and leaving on their own terms, suicide really isn't the tragic thing as one cannot suffer from not existing, all the suffering started when existence did.

 

[caliban]

Hm ok. But it takes long and might not work out?

The fact that it takes relatively long (2-5 hours) isn't a problem for me, since i plan to take it before sleeping. And it feels good for me to have time after poisoning. The concern is that there's a chance it won't work, but i will try it anyway.

I have DID, a very nasty mental disorder that isolates you from both yourself and others.

I'm sorry to hear that. I wish you the best.

Oh really, that s nice.
And where are you from?

Sadly i live in hungary. I was planning to move to switzerland though. It's still my B plan to be honest.

 

[Meteora]

The fact that it takes relatively long (2-5 hours) isn't a problem for me, since i plan to take it before sleeping. And it feels good for me to have time after poisoning. The concern is that there's a chance it won't work, but i will try it anyway.

Sounds like a good plan. Wishing you the best of luck.

Sadly i live in hungary. I was planning to move to switzerland though. It's still my B plan to be honest.

Why would you prefer Switzerland from Hungary?

I'm sorry to hear that. I wish you the best.

Thank you. I see no way out but ctb. But I would prefer to live a humble life.

 

[front of me]

I try to be suicidal at least without feelings if sit is not happy, but the death of someone is sad because it is the loss of someone who was there

 

[caliban]

Sounds like a good plan. Wishing you the best of luck.

Thank you so much!!

Why would you prefer Switzerland from Hungary?

The quality of life is just so much better there. It also doesn't have a corrupt government. The people are so much different as well.

Thank you. I see no way out but ctb. But I would prefer to live a humble life.

Tbh me too. Life could be a good thing theoretically. It's just not what we get.