TimeLawyer

TimeLawyer

Now scheduled for deletion. Goodbye all
Oct 10, 2019
70
I think it is something a person does as a final act of self love- in that sense, maybe it is selfish. But people do things primarily for their own benefit every day, such as buying cheap clothing made by low paid workers in bad conditions, buying pets from pet stores instead of adopting from a shelter, pursuing a career they want solely for themselves instead of being like Mother Theresa and building orphanages and looking after the sick and vulnerable in the world. I will be the first to admit, I do things like that too. Most of us do to some degree. I know my loved ones will miss me. I think I am going to have to humble myself when my time to ctb comes and let go of this need to be "right and moral" I am getting rid of pain, yes only my pain, but as for me, I find that living while being tied to obligations and "have to's" only makes a difficult life even more difficult. I want to free myself of pressure to live, die or do anything. Even pressure to try every single option before ctb is stressful for me. I have lots of options, just no long term sustainable ones that won't cause me further pain and stress.
 
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Deleted-User-0

Experienced
Jan 30, 2020
217
Sadly I'm not. If you are intrested in my story i am a male, 34yo, I have a Ph.D. in Law, and I work as a lawyer but the firm I'm working in is only money oriented. I am emotionally dead. I don't find any girl to plan my life with, only merciless bitches intrested in money and/or power. once I had a girl, a 10 years story, we planned our marriage and I have bought a house for us unless i have discovered she was having sex with uknown married people meeted online (3 people at the time) and she decided to go and have her life this way. As an added bonus I have a rare genetic disease which provided me with 2 strokes and was only my strenght to survive that now i'm writing. As you can see all I can do is contemplate death and try to find the right moment to ctb. Please do not call me selfish, because if you do so you are completely brainless.
Peace.

Of course man CTB is every human being's right/choice. Who am I to judge you. I'm going through the same painful day to day experience. I just had my tank if Argon delivered yesterday ready for the right moment to leave this horrible nightmarish life behind and rest in Ungatz.
 
AlreadyGone

AlreadyGone

Taking it day by day
Jan 11, 2020
917
I believe suicide is not selfish as I feel you should have the right to choose the time of your death. People who say that suicide is selfish say that because they will be hurt by it. Now if you decided to bring children into this world, then that is a whole other story.
 
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Alec

Wizard
Apr 22, 2019
681
Suicide is definitely not selfish! It's our lives, only we get to decide what to do with them.
Asking someone who's suffering and living in misery to stay alive just because you personally think suicide is in some way bad, or because you would be hurt if they killed themselves, now that's selfish!
 
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Plainjane

Plainjane

Member
Feb 25, 2020
15
Would it be dependent on the reason and circumstance for wanting to CTB?

what if one is suffering from a chronic illness that will drain the family emotionally or financially? And the reason to CTB is to be less of a burden to the family and also to avoid more suffering for him/herself. I do not think that this is selfish in this context.
 
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AcornUnderground

Mage
Feb 28, 2020
505
i battle this topic every minute of every day. I'm lying here in bed with my 9 year old daughter sleeping next to me. I have an incurable, chronic, horrific illness that has stolen my whole life. I'm draining my savings, can't work, can't leave the house, can't cook, can very minimally care for my two very precious children. I'm 41. This progressive disease is not sustainable. It won't kill me, but it has dried up my eyes and salivary glands, all exocrine glands, made my legs and feet numb, infiltrated my lungs, made it nearly impossible to swallow, given me intractable body and joint pain, tinnitus, the list goes on and on. I have no moisture in my stomach to digest food. I will soon lose all of my teeth. There are no drugs to stop this, no alternative therapies proven to made a lick of difference (though I've spent 20k trying). I've seen so many doctors, talked to hundreds of patients, probably thousands of hours searching for any way to get better. There is none. I'm stuck here because I'm horrified about leaving my children. But guess what? The money will run out. My body will completely deteriorate, because I'm already bedridden 95% of the day. My children have already watched the mother they know die more and more each day. Pills everywhere. No more crafts, bike rides, trips to the park. The house will be seized. I won't be able to buy food. I chose to bring them into this world. I did not know I would get sick. I can not explain the hellish torture that is sleeping next to this perfect angel of a child that thinks her mother is the whole world. And I'm already gone, and there is a whole horror story ahead. I have a choiceless choice. Because of this, because I now see a hell I never knew existed, I can judge no one. Do I want to judge the young person with a completely healthy body that seems to want to ctb because their girlfriend left or they can't find the job they want? They are bored with life already, don't see a point? Sure, I want to judge them. But then I remember how many of you want to judge me for leaving my children behind. Knowing that I will ruin their lives, leave them scared and alone (they will be fully supported by Dad but Jesus losing a mother..). I know this. You judge me. I have no choices here. So I can judge no one. I guess the point of me going on and on about my own woes for the umpteenth time here is to make the point - you don't understand a goddamn thing about how beyond horrifying my situation is. I maybe can't understand how horrifying yours is, either. I would give anything for physical health. There are many who'd give anything for a sound mind. Mental peace. No one wants to be here, in this place. We all have that in common. I'm sorry for every single one of us. Life can be stunningly beautiful. I've seen it with my own eyes and lost it all. It's a tragedy to be here. I am so sorry for all of us.
 
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TimeToBiteTheDust

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Nov 7, 2019
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I feel so sorry for the ones that contemplate ctb and have children. :(
 
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