Yea i felt like that would be the answer, no way my psy gave me enough pills to ctb, thx for the answers, rope seems like the only logical option after all, i dont see any other options, it hurts but pain will last a few seconds gotta tie my hands behind my back and take the leap. there you go, if any of you want to ctb then this is it...... are we doomed? yes.... this society chose to put us here and refuse to give us an option and JUST TALKING about it puts us in the hospital for months ... how is that fair.... just venting about it around a fire place and crying... that would be a nice feeling but then... would we need it? dont think so... if our familly were that nice there is NO WAY we would even think about death like that.... the irony ....