Suicide by Cop (UK)

[Midian]

As you may or may not know the police here in the UK are not routinely armed. However, specialist firearms teams can be deployed if needed.
This has got me thinking.
For reasons I forget I happen to have a replica American civil war pistol (non-firing).
If I was seen brandishing my gun in public the firearms team would certainly be called. All I'd have to do is aim my gun at someone and BANG! the police would shoot me dead on the spot.
Any thoughts?

 

[Hollowillow]

I got severely assaulted & the cops said I deserved it. Are UK cops kinder? They're not armed? Cops were sent to my suicide comments and they were armed, I think I asked them to borrow it super politely at some point. I asked for some OD of fentanil too.

If they're nice I wouldn't. If you find a trigger happy psychopath (they love power & to be above the law, so there are psycho cops) it'd be fun to get him fired for killing someone basically unharmed. Ha!

 

[CowsAreCool]

Getting beaten to death with nightsticks > Shooting yourself

 

[notlongnow]

UK police are pretty well trained, though recently a sad outcome with a one shot execution of someone in South London. (Chris Kaba)

I'm general they shoot to disable and disarm. They value life, unlike some in other parts of the world.

 

[Suicidebydeath]

As you may or may not know the police here in the UK are not routinely armed. However, specialist firearms teams can be deployed if needed.
This has got me thinking.
For reasons I forget I happen to have a replica American civil war pistol (non-firing).
If I was seen brandishing my gun in public the firearms team would certainly be called. All I'd have to do is aim my gun at someone and BANG! the police would shoot me dead on the spot.
Any thoughts?

UK police are well-trained. I think it's a bad idea. You could end up just arrested, or they may shoot to disable. Also traumatizing random people of the public, and hmm, a random bobby, they have feelings too.

I got severely assaulted & the cops said I deserved it. Are UK cops kinder? They're not armed? Cops were sent to my suicide comments and they were armed, I think I asked them to borrow it super politely at some point. I asked for some OD of fentanil too.

I'm sorry that happened to you. UK cops are pretty decent majority of the time. I'd rather deal with a UK cop than a US one. Not saying all US cops are bad but on the average of things, I know with a UK cop I won't get randomly shot or arrested just because they're having a bad day or stuck up their own arse.

 

[Hollowillow]

UK police are well-trained. I think it's a bad idea. You could end up just arrested, or they may shoot to disable. Also traumatizing random people of the public, and hmm, a random bobby, they have feelings too.

I'm sorry that happened to you. UK cops are pretty decent majority of the time. I'd rather deal with a UK cop than a US one. Not saying all US cops are bad but on the average of things, I know with a UK cop I won't get randomly shot or arrested just because they're having a bad day or stuck up their own arse.

It was a canadian cop. We suck too, we're kinda fake nice

 

[Julgran]

As you may or may not know the police here in the UK are not routinely armed. However, specialist firearms teams can be deployed if needed.
This has got me thinking.
For reasons I forget I happen to have a replica American civil war pistol (non-firing).
If I was seen brandishing my gun in public the firearms team would certainly be called. All I'd have to do is aim my gun at someone and BANG! the police would shoot me dead on the spot.
Any thoughts?

I don't want to encourage suicide by cop due to the ramifications that it can have for the cop in question.

As a thought experiment, though, it would probably be easier if you S.W.A.T.ed yourself - meaning that you call the cops and tell them that there's an armed suspect in your house, at which point they may show up with special police forces and shoot you if they see you brandishing a gun. This may only work in the USA, though.

 

[Jimblue]

I don't think UK police will shoot your head, they usually will shoot your arm or leg.
And personally I don't think it's a good idea. The people around you will probably have PTSD after that.

I got severely assaulted & the cops said I deserved it. Are UK cops kinder? They're not armed? Cops were sent to my suicide comments and they were armed, I think I asked them to borrow it super politely at some point. I asked for some OD of fentanil too.

If they're nice I wouldn't. If you find a trigger happy psychopath (they love power & to be above the law, so there are psycho cops) it'd be fun to get him fired for killing someone basically unharmed. Ha!

UK police usually will not say anything mean straight way. But some police then will give an attitude show they don't fucking care actually. But they'll still ask some questions, I guess they have too.

 

[Myforevercharlie]

Don't do it.

I've told more than enough times why not..

Oh what the fuck...

Next month 4 years ago my little brother did the same. Walked up to a bank with a fake gun.
He got shot 17 times by police, and died about 5 minutes later

I love him with all my heart, but he should not have done it this way. The cops that shot him where 2 young man ( 26) one of them got mental health issues after that. Yes the get trained. But no amount of training can prepare you for your first time killing a person.

Please don't pull other people along with your ctb...

Btw. This was in Amsterdam.

 

[CowsAgainstCapitali]

Another thing to consider is that in recent years law enforcement have undergone training to these attempts. Suicide by cop relies on provoking predictable lethal response to a valid threat. These are folks who deal with genuinely dangerous individuals and harmless people in crisis on a regular basis. They will immediately recognize your intent and false weapon.

I live in the US and have been arrested many times, both for law breaking and for suicide crisis. I have tried to provoke them to shoot me, but they are trained and cool headed and I'm losing it ad they know it, so Tazers are drawn instead of Glocks. Unfortunately in order to be successful you would need to go at them for real, which would put all persons in the area at risk.

It's a fun thought, but can not possibly end well for anyone.

Another thing to consider is that in recent years law enforcement have undergone training to recognize signs for these attempts. Suicide by cop relies on provoking a predictable lethal response to a valid threat. These are folks who deal with genuinely dangerous individuals and harmless people in crisis on a regular basis. They will immediately recognize your intent and false weapon.

I live in the US and have been arrested many times, both for law breaking and for suicide crisis. I have tried to provoke them to shoot me, but they are trained and cool headed and I'm losing it and they know it, so Tazers are drawn instead of Glocks. We all know UK cops are less killy than US cops. Unfortunately in order to be successful you would need to go at them for real, which would put all persons in the area at risk, which would be wrog any way you cut it.

It's a fun thought, but can not possibly end well for anyone.

 

[Shadowlord900]

Outside of special armed forces, I think only the King/Queen's Guard can shoot to kill if you're seen pointing a gun against them and/or the Royal Family. I still don't think it's reliable though and wouldn't recommend trying it. I wouldn't even recommend death by cop in the US where they're more likely to shoot to kill, it's a lottery whether you find the right trigger happy cop or not.

 

[NeverReallyHere]

UK police are trained to aim for centre mass, like every other armed service around the world, as it's got the best chance of neutralising the threat. They're not trained to shoot to wound; I don't know why anyone would think this.

However, UK police armed response units have a much higher level of training than the average US cop, so I wouldn't rely on them to pull the trigger. And even if they do there's a strong chance you might survive your injury.

 

[Endex]

Another example of a very painful non guaranteed way. Do you want to suffer for a indefinite period of time before you might or might not die? Please think of the people you are trying to involve in your actions. The NHS is at breaking point working to deal with people who want to live. The fire Arms police officer will be suspended while an investigation is carried out. So one less specialist officer unable to be used for genuine incidents in the future.

Please do some research to find a non selfish peaceful way to go, there is an abundance of credible information on this site to read.

 

[Lone_Traveler90]

In UK (and probably most european countries) is highly unlikely that police would shoot to kill you unless you would commit massacre by killing many civilians. They would shoot to disable you and you would just end up alive in hospital and then prison.

 

[Nitrohelpasap]

As you may or may not know the police here in the UK are not routinely armed. However, specialist firearms teams can be deployed if needed.
This has got me thinking.
For reasons I forget I happen to have a replica American civil war pistol (non-firing).
If I was seen brandishing my gun in public the firearms team would certainly be called. All I'd have to do is aim my gun at someone and BANG! the police would shoot me dead on the spot.
Any thoughts?

I think and it's just my opinion, although suicide by cop, is unfair to the cop and the people are around who shall witness the shooting. PTSD is not kind. The guilt the cop will feel and the fear the people will live with.
At one point I did think of this method but I would only use a gun in the garage.
Any idea how a gun can be got off the streets?

 

[Ki_Nam]

Suicide by cop is never a good idea, anywhere. Don't involve any third party.

 

[eternalbliss22]

As you may or may not know the police here in the UK are not routinely armed. However, specialist firearms teams can be deployed if needed.
This has got me thinking.
For reasons I forget I happen to have a replica American civil war pistol (non-firing).
If I was seen brandishing my gun in public the firearms team would certainly be called. All I'd have to do is aim my gun at someone and BANG! the police would shoot me dead on the spot.
Any thoughts?

Think about it, are you a predator? Are you willing to cause trauma to another person by forcing them to take your life? Suicide is the natural right of all living beings, but what you are asking about isn't suicide, it's forcing someone to commit murder. They're the ones that have to live with the aftermath.