suicide as a "tragedy"

[oohiniyorafaad]

As a suicidal person, I think the most tragic thing about me if I were to die by my own hand would be what lead up to that point NOT my death. The terrible experiences I have had while alive, the terrible feelings coursing throughout my entire body throughout my life, the tears that I have shed unwitnessed and witnessed, the type of rage and anger that makes you want to scream and hit yourself, the feeling of wanting to be outside of your body/wanting to be switched off and sleep forever, the feeling of being a mistake, the realization that your pain and existence are as insignificant as a grain of sand, asking yourself questions that you will never know the answer to. Once I learned of the phenomena of killer whales in captivity committing suicide by self injury (banging their heads into the walls of where they are held captive by humans) i understood that suicide is a tactic of "keeping one's dignity" (at least for those who choose suicide because they have endured traumatic or negative thing(s) which always have dramatic consequences on one's existence). Why must I prove the reason I want to die is valid enough, who will be my judge? I do not believe in a God and I have learned real justice is not a true concept in this world. I am an animal just like the killer whale, the captivity of this world, it is too much. I am so ready to leave this world because I am angry and I don't feel satisfied. If someone escapes hell is that tragic? not to me

 

[asterisk3]

i understood that suicide is a tactic of "keeping one's dignity" (at least for those who choose suicide because they have endured traumatic or negative thing(s) which always have dramatic consequences on one's existence).

I agree. I've been thinking about my causes for "sui ideation" but it's "just" ("just") that, a way to protect me and end the pain. I don't think it's the 100% the case for every suicidal person (I've seen many people on the forum that are suicidal in very different ways), but for many I suppose this descriptions fits.

 

[oohiniyorafaad]

I agree. I've been thinking about my causes for "sui ideation" but it's "just" ("just") that, a way to protect me and end the pain. I don't think it's the 100% the case for every suicidal person (I've seen many people on the forum that are suicidal in very different ways), but for many I suppose this descriptions fits.

David Foster Wallace quote that really words this phenomena so perfectly

The so-called 'psychotically depressed' person who tries to kill herself doesn't do so out of quote 'hopelessness' or any abstract conviction that life's assets and debits do not square. And surely not because death seems suddenly appealing. The person in whom Its invisible agony reaches a certain unendurable level will kill herself the same way a trapped person will eventually jump from the window of a burning high-rise. Make no mistake about people who leap from burning windows. Their terror of falling from a great height is still just as great as it would be for you or me standing speculatively at the same window just checking out the view; i.e. the fear of falling remains a constant. The variable here is the other terror, the fire's flames: when the flames get close enough, falling to death becomes the slightly less terrible of two terrors. It's not desiring the fall; it's terror of the flames. And yet nobody down on the sidewalk, looking up and yelling 'Don't!' and 'Hang on!', can understand the jump. Not really. You'd have to have personally been trapped and felt flames to really understand a terror way beyond falling.

 

[RainAndSadness]

Yeah. Give me a break with that nonsense. What's tragic are all the events that lead to someone's suicide - there is no doubt about that. Someone has to go through a shitload of suffering to do it and that's a bad thing. We need to prevent that, for sure. But the act itself, for many us, is the final emanzipating act, taking back control of our own life. It's an intentional decision to commit suicide - as a result of years of suffering. And that's why we should finally start treating suicide as a human rights issue and nothing else. But what's not intentional is the suffering many of us go through, sometimes for years, may it be severe mental pain, chronic physical pain, terminal illness, poverty, exploitation in a capitalist system, debilitating loneliness, systemic discrimination and so on until we decide we've had enough. We need to work on these issues to make this world a better place, to improve the lives of people so much that they voluntarily(!) decide to keep living. The current approach, forcing people to live against their own will, coercisive measures through psychiatric intervention which is often very traumatic and sometimes it only makes things worse, it doesn't work. And it's a disgrace. I will write a thread soon about the inability of us to tackle the systemic issues that causes people to take their own life. This world sucks so much that the only meaningful suicide prevention we have are human rights violations. Disgusting, if you ask me.

 

[Unending]

I think any logical person would be able to agree that it is everything that precedes the suicide that is truly tragic. Any tragedy pertaining to the act of my suicide wouldn't really be my own, it would be that of those who mourn me. But yeah, the thousands and thousands of hours that are well considered in making the decision, the years of holding out hope for it to get better, the unending feelings of despair that override every other human emotion in your brain, heartbreak amplified by mental illness, downward spirals that won't stop no matter how hard I try to get myself out of them, the knowledge that pain can ALWAYS get worse, etc.

I'm quite confident that no one, or at least very few, who actually has been through such depths to reach the point of suicide would disagree.

 

[hellispink]

For me it is not tragic at all. People should be able to decide what to do with their own destiny. You know whats tragic, bullies such as parents family etc who make people wanna off themselves because all the pressure and abuse they put people through. Tragic is the human especies, not death. Actually death is peace nothing wrong with it

 

[FuneralCry]

It really makes no sense to me, to call suicide something tragic as it could never be. There is nothing sad about never having to endure another day here and being free from whatever this life had burdened us with. Suicide is the way to solve all problems and escape from this existence that isn't worth enduring, those who no longer exist are the most fortunate ones as nothing can harm them and they have no problems, they are simply gone and I see beauty in that.

I think that the whole suicide is tragic type view comes from those who wish to glorify life and disregard the harsh and worthless nature of existence. And anyway, death isn't tragic as to die is the most normal thing ever after all, it's all that we are destined for, to die and be forgotten about and that is the reality. Existence is just a meaningless, yet so awful distraction from that fact. For me personally, the thought of being gone from this hellish world is the only thing that could possibly comfort me. It's true that life itself is the tragic thing instead and the tragedy lies in the fact that humans are unfairly brought here to suffer so unnecessarily. Life itself certainly is the true problem no matter what.

 

[WorthlessTrash]

Suicide is the response to tragic circumstances which lead to it.

What is even more tragic is expecting someone to live and "power through" terrible life circumstances just to rot and die of natural causes anyways.

 

[jan_Seli]

Suicide is the response to tragic circumstances which lead to it.

What is even more tragic is expecting someone to live and "power through" terrible life circumstances just to rot and die of natural causes anyways.

Well I was going to comment but you said what I wanted to almost word for word

 

[girlsboysthems]

suicide might be tragic to people around you/me, but for me its a good thing. im finally ready to let go and let myself be free.