Method Suffocation In Box

[locked*n*loaded]

Say a box could be constructed, say with 3/4" plywood, dovetail joints, all joints tightly sealed, reinforced on the outside with a complete wrap-around of 3/16" flat steel to be able to withstand any "kick apart' force being applied by someone in the box panicking. The lid could be made with 2X4s, glued and screwed to each other, face to face. Any bolts used to secure the hinges would have their heads on the inside of the box to eliminate the possibility of removing corresponding nuts, that would be on the outside of the box. It would be an extremely "flat" box, so that someone would be hindered from using their arms to try and force their way out, and similarly, using their legs to kick their way out because they wouldn't be able to raise their knees to produce kicks. Likewise, the length would only accommodate the near exact height of the person in the box to eliminate being able to use legs to kick their way out, and also, the width would only be wide enough to accommodate the widest part of the person inside, the shoulders. At least three locks would be lockable from only the inside and, again, like the hinges, would be attached with bolt heads facing the inside and nuts on the outside. Where the lid meets the top edge of the box, it would be an airtight seal. Just say someone would be unable to break-out from the box and the box is completely airtight.

What happens first to the person as oxygen is depleted and replaced by CO2? How long until death? What is your best "guesstimate" as to what it would feel like?

 

[locked*n*loaded]

WTF is wrong with this method?

 

[mandyjohnuk]

Hello my friend. This method will be very painful and panic will set in rather quickly as you start to feel the effects of suffocation. This method coupled with Inert gas would render you unconscious within minutes and death within a very short time after.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

Hello my friend. This method will be very painful and panic will set in rather quickly as you start to feel the effects of suffocation. This method coupled with Inert gas would render you unconscious within minutes and death within a very short time after.

Maybe the gas is the answer then. What would be the cause of the pain? There was a CourtTV trial on not too long ago, where a boyfriend and girlfriend, were playing "sex" games. Well, long story short, the guy ended up in a suitcase and the girl ignored his pleas for help telling her he couldn't breath. The ordeal was videotaped and it looked, at least to me, like there was no real panic from the guy, and you could hear him telling her he couldn't breathe. There was movement in the suitcase that started slowing down over time, until it stopped. I think they charged her with either murder, or manslaughter, I can't remember. It may have been murder because she ignored his pleas. She was convicted. They were both high on meth, I think. Anyway, it didn't look all that bad to me.

 

[mandyjohnuk]

It sounds like he hyperventilated which lead to heart attack. Not a nice way to go but you won't remember it.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

It sounds like he hyperventilated which lead to heart attack. Not a nice way to go but you won't remember it.

Is that hyperventilation caused by the panic inside the suitcase?

 

[mandyjohnuk]

I would assume so yes.
Look up humane rodent gas chamber. If a box could be made big enough to fit a human this would be sweet.

 

[downndone2]

Doesnt sound peaceful at all, like a magic trick gone terribly wrong

 

[Cathy Ames]

What would be the cause of the pain? There was a CourtTV trial on not too long ago, where a boyfriend and girlfriend, were playing "sex" games. Well, long story short, the guy ended up in a suitcase and the girl ignored his pleas for help telling her he couldn't breath. The ordeal was videotaped and it looked, at least to me, like there was no real panic from the guy, and you could hear him telling her he couldn't breathe. There was movement in the suitcase that started slowing down over time, until it stopped. I think they charged her with either murder, or manslaughter, I can't remember. It may have been murder because she ignored his pleas. She was convicted. They were both high on meth, I think. Anyway, it didn't look all that bad to me.

Was it a soft or hard-sided suitcase? That sounds like positional asphyxia rather than suffocation.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

Doesnt sound peaceful at all, like a magic trick gone terribly wrong

Maybe if one took some sleeping pills first? Like a bunch of them.

Was it a soft or hard-sided suitcase? That sounds like positional asphyxia rather than suffocation.

Soft. Could see him moving around in it when he was pleading to be let out.

 

[Cathy Ames]

Soft. Could see him moving around in it when he was pleading to be let out.

I think I found the news story. Cause of death was "positional asphyxia with environmental suffocation consistent with prolonged confinement." To me, it sounds like it was not a great way to die.

Report: Man died of asphyxiation after girlfriend locked him in suitcase for ‘up to 11 hours'

A medical examiner has determined a Florida man died of asphyxiation, citing the manner of death as a homicide, after his girlfriend locked him in a suitcase, according to a report released Wednesday.

www.clickorlando.com

 

[locked*n*loaded]

I think I found the news story. Cause of death was "positional asphyxia with environmental suffocation consistent with prolonged confinement." To me, it sounds like it was not a great way to die.

Report: Man died of asphyxiation after girlfriend locked him in suitcase for ‘up to 11 hours'

A medical examiner has determined a Florida man died of asphyxiation, citing the manner of death as a homicide, after his girlfriend locked him in a suitcase, according to a report released Wednesday.

www.clickorlando.com

Yeah, that's it. There's a video floating around somewhere too. Maybe on CourtTV website. No, I guess over 11 hours, it wouldn't be the most pleasant way to die. And I don't know at what part of the 11 hour ordeal was the video excerpt I saw. It was probably more toward the end. You could hear his voice some, but it was weak, but then again, the video camera was quite a distance away. The suitcase wasn't moving much at whatever time it was. Just a couple of dumbasses. Yeah, not a great way. But, this is not what I proposed in my OP. Very different. I like the idea of adding the inert gas. Still has possibilities. I haven't ruled it out, yet.

 

[WorthlessTrash]

This just screams of SI. Rather jump in front of a train.

 

[Cathy Ames]

Yeah, that's it. There's a video floating around somewhere too. Maybe on CourtTV website. No, I guess over 11 hours, it wouldn't be the most pleasant way to die. And I don't know at what part of the 11 hour ordeal was the video excerpt I saw. It was probably more toward the end. You could hear his voice some, but it was weak, but then again, the video camera was quite a distance away. The suitcase wasn't moving much at whatever time it was. Just a couple of dumbasses. Yeah, not a great way. But, this is not what I proposed in my OP. Very different. I like the idea of adding the inert gas. Still has possibilities. I haven't ruled it out, yet.

I'm unclear on what the suffocation inside of a box would be like. I just wanted you to know it would probably be different from this suitcase thing. I think it might be similar to when children used to get closed inside refrigerators? Supposedly they would die inside of as little as 10 minutes, but I don't know if that's true (and I don't think I'll research it tonight). On the one hand, that's not very long. But on the other hand, it might seem a lot longer than that while it was happening.