Stop scaring people from death

[I’vehadenough]

I read so many post about analyzing death is a forever sleep or point of no return etc. As if only people commiting suicide are subjected to a horrifying fate.

We all die and whether it happens now or 50 years from now, it will happen. So stop trying to scare people out of it who relay on it as the only way out of a shitty life or situation.

If you are suicidal, chances are good that you are living with something worse than death anyway

 

[Lady black]

You are so right. Death is a part of every life and we should be afraid of it, we should be curious about it and eccept ist as part of us

 

[NitriteAnatomy]

I read so many post about analyzing death is a forever sleep or point of no return etc. As if only people commiting suicide are subjected to a horrifying fate.

We all die and whether it happens now or 50 years from now, it will happen. So stop trying to scare people out of it who relay on it as the only way out of a shitty life or situation.

If you are suicidal, chances are good that you are living with something worse than death anyway

This. Well said.

 

[MeltingHeart]

I read so many post about analyzing death is a forever sleep or point of no return etc. As if only people commiting suicide are subjected to a horrifying fate.

We all die and whether it happens now or 50 years from now, it will happen. So stop trying to scare people out of it who relay on it as the only way out of a shitty life or situation.

If you are suicidal, chances are good that you are living with something worse than death anyway

i just realised who yr avatar is! she was gorgeous.....also agree with yr sentiments!

 

[I’vehadenough]

If David bowie died, all of us will

 

[MeltingHeart]

If David bowie died, all of us will

he used being close to death as a continuation of his constant ability to channel his creative energy-in new states of being, he leaned into it...used its power

 

[TimeToBiteTheDust]

Why some people are afraid of death? I don't see anyone complaining about it.

 

[I’vehadenough]

he used being close to death as a continuation of his constant ability to channel his creative energy-in new states of being, he leaned into it...used its power

Yes, bc he is genius and doesn't follow social norms. His last video was his goodbye to his fans. But, I always thought he was a vampire
That's why his death surprised me

 

[Santiago]

If you are suicidal, chances are good that you are living with something worse than death anyway

Interesting statement. Perhaps it's true, but it's food for thought.

I for one can't imagine the thing that is nothingness. Neither am I sure that my struggles (how bad they might be) are worse than what death would be like.
I am pretty sure no living being can grasp the concept of death.

 

[Empty Smile]

Why some people are afraid of death? I don't see anyone complaining about it.

You beat me to it...

I'm not afraid of death, I just patiently wait for it to come for me, whether by it's chosen time, or mine.

 

[I’vehadenough]

Interesting statement. Perhaps it's true, but it's food for thought.

I for one can't imagine the thing that is nothingness. Neither am I sure that my struggles (how bad they might be) are worse than what death would be like.
I am pretty sure no living being can grasp the concept of death.

It's the same as before you were born. Non existance. You won't know you're dead when you die, that's why it's nothing to be afraid of. What's scarier is living a life where you are tortured everyday and time will only make it worse. If you still have pleasure in life, don't kill yourself. I don't, so I welcome death

 

[toomuchgrief]

I agreed.

And I'm sure once you enter death, guarantee you won't feel afraid, why? Because you don't have any conscious left to be afraid. "Feeling afraid" is a conscious of a "living" being. Once you dead, you dead. To me death is just like when you got put under.

I don't want to live in grief and drown in my own tears for the next 50 years until I grow old and be bedridden waiting for natural death come to me. When I'm still healthy my life is in my own hand. Dead now or dead 50 years later it still dead. If you live happy and enjoy life then it good to live, but if you don't then what the point left of living anymore.

 

[Moonicide]

Exactly. I'm not afraid of dying, I'm afraid of living.

 

[MeltingHeart]

you might like this bit early on from 50secs in. @I'vehadenough

 

[Reyki6667]

Funny fact is that before bs religion came to. In tribal eras and in Japan, peope were ready give themselves death at any moment in their terms to atone for failing their inner promises, responsabilitirs they bore, or saving themselves from impedent crisis or degradement. "seppuku, hara-kiri,kamikaze and co".
They acknowledged and embraced their death that could happen at any moment or by their terms, reminding them they got only one life and had to honor it by any means by totally feeding their flames of life to the extreme.
samurais are still famous arent they?

Now we come to today where people forgot they are mortal and only focusing on their longevity, perverted and blinded by religions and mass brainwashing, totally wasting their life and potential, easely exploited by our society regardless of their treatment and not doing shit expecting the illusion of heaven and hell instead of fighting for their future with all they got.
Well thats my atheist who comes from islamist upgringing point of view.

 

[I’vehadenough]

you might like this bit early on from 50secs in. @I'vehadenough

Yes, he's right about bowie. I would think artists have an easier time accepting death because of their open mindedness and ability to add fantasy characteristics to death

 

[Heart of Ice]

Everyone fears death to some extent... some more than others, perhaps. It's hard coded into our DNA. It makes sense that people project their fear of death onto others, even if I personally haven't seen that attitude on here. I mainly see death being something to be welcomed – I sometimes question the authenticity of these claims. Are people really that stoic on here or are they trying to convince themselves? You really can't be human without a fear of death, after all.

And as for David Bowie: a few really, really good songs and the rest is fine.

 

[Farmmaa]

Everyone fears death to some extent... some more than others, perhaps. It's hard coded into our DNA. It makes sense that people project their fear of death onto others, even if I personally haven't seen that attitude on here. I mainly see death being something to be welcomed – I sometimes question the authenticity of these claims. Are people really that stoic on here or are they trying to convince themselves? You really can't be human without a fear of death, after all.

And as for David Bowie: a few really, really good songs and the rest is fine.

Do they though ?
Do all humans truly fear death... or is it dying that they fear?
As an atheist, there is no reason to fear death itself - being dead is being nothing. No pain, no feeling, just nothing.
I think what most of us fear is either not being successful in our attempt to exit, or in discovering that those final moments really suck.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

It's the same as before you were born. Non existance. You won't know you're dead when you die, that's why it's nothing to be afraid of. What's scarier is living a life where you are tortured everyday and time will only make it worse. If you still have pleasure in life, don't kill yourself. I don't, so I welcome death

Yes i agree with what you say there.
Every night when you sleep you go away , at least i do. So in a way you die every night don't you , when in a deep sleep? The bad part for me is waking up
and i have all these horrible problems to deal with.

Nabokov and Mark Twain also say something similar and I agree with them.

Nabokov:
"The cradle rocks above an abyss, and common sense tells us that our existence is but a brief crack of light between two eternities of darkness. Although the two are identical twins, man, as a rule, views the prenatal abyss with more calm than the one he is heading for (at some forty-five hundred heartbeats an hour)"

Mark Twain :""I do not fear death. I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it."

 

[Mr2005]

Do they though ?
Do all humans truly fear death... or is it dying that they fear?
As an atheist, there is no reason to fear death itself - being dead is being nothing. No pain, no feeling, just nothing.
I think what most of us fear is either not being successful in our attempt to exit, or in discovering that those final moments really suck.

Yes exactly. That's why I tell people to be careful.

 

[Farmmaa]

I fear just feeling any physical pain while dying . I fear pain. I don't fear death. Death will solve all my problems at once and prevent any future pain or suffering that is sure to come my way if only if I remain alive.

After I'm dead I'm 99.999 percent sure I won't know I'm dead and not remember anything forever .

I don't fear a bit of pain - I live most of my life in physical pain, so nothing new.
I do however fear the thought of extremely excruciating pain for any length of time.
My biggest fear though is not dying.

 

[Heart of Ice]

Do they though ?
Do all humans truly fear death... or is it dying that they fear?
As an atheist, there is no reason to fear death itself - being dead is being nothing. No pain, no feeling, just nothing.
I think what most of us fear is either not being successful in our attempt to exit, or in discovering that those final moments really suck.

Seems to be the dying part, I agree. Perhaps I should have made this clearer in my post.

 

[BlueWidow]

Funny fact is that before bs religion came to. In tribal eras and in Japan, peope were ready give themselves death at any moment in their terms to atone for failing their inner promises, responsabilitirs they bore, or saving themselves from impedent crisis or degradement. "seppuku, hara-kiri,kamikaze and co".
They acknowledged and embraced their death that could happen at any moment or by their terms, reminding them they got only one life and had to honor it by any means by totally feeding their flames of life to the extreme.
samurais are still famous arent they?

Now we come to today where people forgot they are mortal and only focusing on their longevity, perverted and blinded by religions and mass brainwashing, totally wasting their life and potential, easely exploited by our society regardless of their treatment and not doing shit expecting the illusion of heaven and hell instead of fighting for their future with all they got.
Well thats my atheist who comes from islamist upgringing point of view.

I agree with this completely. It used to be that people didn't live as long and when they died, the "wake" was held in the family home. Now people mainly die in nursing homes, hospitals, and hospice centers. Their dead bodies are taken to funeral homes where they are processed or preserved. Today's society tries to sanitize death as much as possible. It's not treated as a natural part of life anymore.

 

[I’vehadenough]

Yes i agree with what you say there.
Every night when you sleep you go away , at least i do. So in a way you die every night don't you , when in a deep sleep? The bad part for me is waking up
and i have all these horrible problems to deal with.

Nabokov and Mark Twain also say something similar and I agree with them.

Nabokov:
"The cradle rocks above an abyss, and common sense tells us that our existence is but a brief crack of light between two eternities of darkness. Although the two are identical twins, man, as a rule, views the prenatal abyss with more calm than the one he is heading for (at some forty-five hundred heartbeats an hour)"

Mark Twain :""I do not fear death. I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it."

Great quotes.

 

[MeltingHeart]

Yes, he's right about bowie. I would think artists have an easier time accepting death because of their open mindedness and ability to add fantasy characteristics to death

Yeah i also feel that because he lived such an exciting, vibrant and full life, creatively and in other ways, travelled the world, friends & worked with so many other amazing artists, made the world a richer place,maybe it is easier to come to terms with it when u lived yr life so fully, I bet he didnt have many regrets and what incredible memories to be able to reflect upon in yr last days...

 

[NitriteAnatomy]

Yeah i also feel that because he lived such an exciting, vibrant and full life, creatively and in other ways, travelled the world, friends & worked with so many other amazing artists, made the world a richer place,maybe it is easier to come to terms with it when u lived yr life so fully, I bet he didnt have many regrets and what incredible memories to be able to reflect upon in yr last days...

I often wonder if Chester or Robin Williams thought the same way, as they both lived pretty fulfilling lives, as well.

 

[MeltingHeart]

I often wonder if Chester or Robin Williams thought the same way, as they both lived pretty fulfilling lives, as well.

must be comforting in some way-the worst thing to feel would be too many regrets or a life not lived fully or having had a life without any love or not having contributed to this world at all -this is gonna be me when i ctb

 

[NitriteAnatomy]

must be comforting in some way-the worst thing to feel would be too many regrets or a life not lived fully or having had a life without any love or not having contributed to this world at all -this is gonna be me when i ctb

You aren't alone in that sentiment. Truly wish I and others had been able to live fuller, instead of the hand we got dealt.

 

[I’vehadenough]

Just thinking about how I didn't have the chance to live my full life when things were finally coming together makes me want to jump off a bridge right fucking now

Waiting for this Dignitas interview is agonizing

 

[NitriteAnatomy]

Just thinking about how I didn't have the chance to live my full life when things were finally coming together makes me want to jump off a bridge right fucking now

Waiting for this Dignitas interview is agonizing

Best of luck with that interview, when it does happen. You'll be capable of the best route in regards to CTB and everyone deserves a shot at that