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death137

death137

miserable
Jun 25, 2020
1,166
I'm seriously thinking of doing this either to die by it or encourage me to use faster method like hanging or cutting or jumping. I've everything ready for full hanging but I'm scared to kick the stool/chair or swing from the car. I feel trapped and I don't know what to do. Sometimes I feel like crying because of how trapped I feel. Seriously there is no worse thing than being born because you not only suffer in trying to live but also in trying to die. My mind is all over the place and I can't think clearly. I feel ashamed that I stayed this long. I live with my family so its risky here to starve/dehydrate so I'm thinking of running from home into a distant inaccessible monastery and perish there from lack of food/drink or coldness or jump from one of the hills. Please if you can give me some advice on how to end this hell.
 
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Superdeterminist

Superdeterminist

Enlightened
Apr 5, 2020
1,876
I relate to that so much. Like you, I'm strongly tempted to try starvation, in the hope that it will force my mind into some kind of new space where I either become determined to just go through with ctb or some other kind of drastic mental shift, I don't even know just something to change how things are right now. But I also think a lot about the gradual physical deterioration that starvation will cause, which is likely to be painful, and it does put me off it. I'm torn about it honestly.

I don't feel shame for still being here because I think that ctb is extremely challenging. I'm sorry I can't give you any advice on how to escape that hell, I'm in a similar one to you, also looking for an answer. I think that SN is really the best option, but I also don't live alone and I'm still worried about vomiting/pain.
 
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LooksAtMoonDog

LooksAtMoonDog

Too Long in the Wasteland
Nov 10, 2020
719
Sorry you're at this point, I hate that society makes it so difficult for us.

That said starvation is slow, and dehydration to death would be both painful and very mentally distressing.

Hope you find your peace.
 
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foxdie

Got my ticket
Aug 18, 2020
1,011
I'm in a very similar situation I think. I always think about starving even though I know how horrible it is. I don't for that reason but I might have no choice soon. I can do hanging too, but like you, I've yet to be able to follow through. It's so hard, I know. Sorry I don't have better advice but know you're not alone in feeling this. I've been pretty emotional about all this recently too. I hope you can find some peace friend :hug:
 
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sadworld

existence is a nightmare
Aug 25, 2020
3,868
I think starving/dehydration is really hard to do cause it will be unbearable. It could encourage you to do other methods but I personally wouldn't do it.

I hope everything works out for you and you can find some peace! Hugs! :hug: :hug: :heart:
 
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signifying nothing

signifying nothing

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Sep 13, 2020
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I think its worth a try. Sometimes you need to try something more extreme to get yourself out of the situation you're in, force something to change.
 
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Spitfire

Enlightened
Apr 26, 2020
1,273
It would be difficult. I thought about it, and almost got the ball rolling on doing it unintentionally at the time. I lost about 25 lbs and I am not a heavy guy maybe 145 +/- all of my adult life. There is a lot of fluids in chewable foods and I was not eating food except rarely. I downed a glass of grape juice once or twice too. None of it was intended though.

At one point I remember realizing it could probably for me.
 
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death137

miserable
Jun 25, 2020
1,166
Thank you all for your words. I think now I know what I should do. Hope it will give me peace. I also hope you all peace.
I wonder if it's easier if you have no appetite.
I think its. Also I read after day 3 your body will get used to starving and won't carve for food. I once went for 3 days without food and drink and although I was weak I felt I can continue for few more days. The risky thing is after some days you become bed bound.
 
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Spitfire

Enlightened
Apr 26, 2020
1,273
I started losing my muscle coordination ability. My memory and cognitive functions stopped working correctly too. I could not recall or differentiate one moment from the next, at times.

I remember thinking, how much worse it could get with this method of using starving or dehydration?

Some people do this at the end of their lives when their body has gotten very sick. It sounds easy to do for some of them.
 
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Miss_Takes

Somewhere Over the Rainbow
Dec 4, 2020
452
I recently did a 24 day water fast ... no food if any kind just water. This wasnt an attempt to CBT but an attempt to gain wellness. It worked ... my chronic pain eased ... my insomnia went ... i felt strong and positive. I am not on any meds so there was no issue there for me. I couldnt sustain beyond 24 days as I was experiencing low BP to the point of fainting at the end. I regret having to eat again as its all been downhill from there for me.
I am considering another attempt ... water fast first then considering dehydration as the CTB catalyst in combination with something else.
 
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Chupacabra 44

Chupacabra 44

If boredom were a CTB method, I would be long gone
Sep 13, 2020
710
Sorry you're having a hard time!

I fast 24 hours on most days, and have done countless fasts up to five days in duration. Not once has my appetite diminished with multiple days of fasting, and if ever I thought about food for longer than two seconds, I would cave and eat; but this is me, and many others claim to lose appetite once they enter ketosis, which typically occurs between two to four days of fasting.

An option to make fasting theoretically easier is to enter ketosis first through a ketogenic diet, but this approach does not diminish my personal appetite while fasting, as I've tried this several times. But, everyone is different with diet, appetite, and mental strength.

Personally, I find fasting longer than two days to be a big mental challenge, and time tends to drag. Many times I've set out to fast up to five days, which is potentially the optimal duration based on some authophagy theories, but I would oftentimes break mentally between three to four days, as I would question the lack of proven scientific evidence with fasting for health reasons, etc. I've only made it to five days a few times.

FYI, anyone who goes longer than five days and wishes to break their fast then there is something called refeed syndrome to be mindful about, because there is a proper way to break an extended fast lasting longer than five days. People can end up in the hospital if a prolonged fast isn't broken properly, and in some cases refeed syndrome is deadly, which might not be the desired outcome if one ultimately decides to end the fast. Refeed syndrome is illustrated with some of the American prisoners of war rescued from Japan after WWII and with rescued holocaust survivors. Others inexperienced with fasting have experienced refeed syndrome, and one can read their stories on line.

There is at least one anectodal story of someone who intended to CTB through fasting and this person obtained clarity of thought after a week or two of fasting. This particular individual went on to recover, and he became a life long advocate of extended fasting to treat depression. This was in the eithteen (?) hundreds.

As another aside, the Russians have/had a track record of treating mental illnesses through fasting for between 21 and 30 days. A Russian physician claimed to treat and cure many forms of mental illness including schizophrenia with these fasts, and he conducted these inside Russian assylums in the early 1900s.

The moral is anyone who engages in a prolonged fast, be prepared to potentially have your mental state altered favorably and be knowledgeable as to how to successfully break the fast should you choose to do so.
 
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Mentalmick

Mentalmick

IMHOTEP!!!
Nov 30, 2020
2,049
I tried starvation once. Went ten days without eating. The hunger passes after a couple of days and I ended up losing two pounds a day. But, it was going to take around a month and that was just too long for me.
 
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Miss_Takes

Somewhere Over the Rainbow
Dec 4, 2020
452
Days 11, 12 and 13 felt like death for me but from there to day 24 was euphoric except for LBP and fainting on standing.
Also at day 21 I had a conversation with an entity I wasnt sure was there or not at the time ... it was real enough to phone a friend/colleague and discuss potential psychosis.
I wish the euphoria had remained once I started eating again.
I would like to try again for more permanent results one way or another but for today I just hope for courage to make it quick ... but I am not brave ... and that makes me wonder if I am really serious.
Today all I know is everything hurts.
 
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Pookie

Pookie

Somebody you used to know.
Oct 18, 2020
1,051
If starvation and/or dehydration was a quick method I would have done it a long time ago.
 
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Mentalmick

Mentalmick

IMHOTEP!!!
Nov 30, 2020
2,049
Days 11, 12 and 13 felt like death for me but from there to day 24 was euphoric except for LBP and fainting on standing.
Also at day 21 I had a conversation with an entity I wasnt sure was there or not at the time ... it was real enough to phone a friend/colleague and discuss potential psychosis.
I wish the euphoria had remained once I started eating again.
I would like to try again for more permanent results one way or another but for today I just hope for courage to make it quick ... but I am not brave ... and that makes me wonder if I am really serious.
Today all I know is everything hurts.
I was really looking forward to the euphoric part but didn't get that far.
 
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Miss_Takes

Somewhere Over the Rainbow
Dec 4, 2020
452
I was really looking forward to the euphoric part but didn't get that far.
I had never felt better ... at the time it was worth it ... although I didnt really struggle with not eating ... what worries me now is being lured into a false sense of permanence knowing it doesnt last and returnìng to this emptiness.
 
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xLosthopex

xLosthopex

Tell my dogs I love them
May 29, 2020
1,133
Coming from someone with chronic anorexia, I can inform you that it's not a reliable method :I
Even if you get to a physically critical point you will probably collapse and be brought to hospital where they will revive you, has happened to me countless times
 
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inactive

Student
Jul 26, 2020
173
I've gotten really good at starving myself these past months but it's a garbage method to pick for suicide, unfortunately.
 
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Brick In The Wall

Brick In The Wall

2M Or Not 2B.
Oct 30, 2019
25,158
I'd recommend this documentary for anyone considering it. It's based on a true story of a man who decided to CTB using this method. He keeps a daily journal and documents the entire process. I believe it took 67 days for him to expire.

 
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itachi of death

Student
Aug 17, 2020
139
I would just starve to death ive tried but caved after 2 days,when I felt hungry I just dry heaved and it took my hunger away,but I also smoke to numb myself and that doesn't help me
 
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death137

miserable
Jun 25, 2020
1,166
I'd recommend this documentary for anyone considering it. It's based on a true story of a man who decided to CTB using this method. He keeps a daily journal and documents the entire process. I believe it took 67 days for him to expire.


Thanks for the video. Is it possible to get the full video?

I read about a German who ctb via starvation in a forest but it only took him 24 days. I'm sure he was drinking because if he wasn't he wouldn't even have stayed that long.
 
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Brick In The Wall

2M Or Not 2B.
Oct 30, 2019
25,158
Thanks for the video. Is it possible to get the full video?

I read about a German who ctb via starvation in a forest but it only took him 24 days. I'm sure he was drinking because if he wasn't he wouldn't even have stayed that long.
I'm sure it's probably on one of the streaming sites if you dig hard enough for it. I rented it from my local library of all places :))

24 days is still a long time. I'm sure it depends on what kind of shape you're in before hand. After roughly a week you lose all hunger pains but it's still not a very pleasant method.
 
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sadbadpsychogirl

sonofabitch
May 29, 2020
725
i've been partially starving for about 3 weeks and from the looks of it its going to have to be my method. i will start full starvation in the next 3 days
 
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itachi of death

Student
Aug 17, 2020
139
i've been partially starving for about 3 weeks and from the looks of it its going to have to be my method. i will start full starvation in the next 3 days
So do u see a difference?and if its an effective method ill start that today havent eaten or drinking anything today
 
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sadbadpsychogirl

sonofabitch
May 29, 2020
725
well i have lost some weight. as of now i've just been cutting out carbs entirely and eating mostly fat. i'm not sure what the total starvation will do. i know its going to be a long process, probably over a month but all i can do is try
Will you also dehydrate?
no i don't think i have the strength for that. i hear it is very unpleasant
 
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Miss_Takes

Somewhere Over the Rainbow
Dec 4, 2020
452
I have started fasting today ... so far so good but ive been reducing for weeks. I am still hydrating at this point.
I would prefer a more immediate option but certain 'restrictions' do not allow for this atm and I am unsure if my immediate desire is reactive.
I wish I could scream out loud ... but all of my screaming is inward today.
I will post daily re the fasting once I have stopped hydrating.
 
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wunschtraum

wunschtraum

wish I was a cat
Jan 15, 2021
160
i tried it for 3 or 4 days. no food and very low water but it is horrible to dehydrate. every second wirhout water seems like eternity and it becomes not better with the time. and only stop eating could last more than 100 days.... good luck. you mustnt eat anything all the time because your metabolism is in danger mode and every little food has much energy....

but i think if an other attempt (hanging or so) failed and you are like a vegetable oder quadrilepic (???) you could stopping eat. maybe better then live in such a state. problem would be the others gives food to you without your Ok.
 
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Pookie

Pookie

Somebody you used to know.
Oct 18, 2020
1,051
That must've been a very difficult experience. What does dehydration feel like? Did your eyes dry out? Did you stop peeing? I hope you don't have any permanent damage.
 
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wunschtraum

wish I was a cat
Jan 15, 2021
160
i had the feeling my body produces liquid :D i peed more than drinking... but yes it was strange only 1 or 2 times of a day to pee a very little. my SI is very very strong and at night after a little bit sleep i woke up and it feels horrible dry in my mouth and so i took the watee bottle and drunk... a wonderful feeöing :D but not my plan!

it lasts 10- 14, sonetimes 20 days to dehydrate to death. and in the end inthink it is impossible not to drink.. and the last days before death your body will get damage and you will notice your own slowly death. cant image to go through the last days without water while you are at home and you could drink...
 
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