heavyeyes
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Not sure which I should follow for SN. Can you go wrong with either one? I want to make sure I have the best possible outcome.
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escaped
Member
- Dec 20, 2022
- 31
Im sure both are fine. Stan's protocol is more common here and it seems to be effective
oono
Experienced
- Aug 26, 2020
- 207
onceuponadec
I am a poor wayfaring stranger
- Dec 23, 2022
- 107
Apparently it's updated all the time but it's usually like$99 for subscription to it online. Thanks to those who've posted it online for us for free access as a pdf !
I would review guidleines from both, plus get ideas from posts here, and then use your own best judgment. Stan's used to say to use beta blockers, not it says this is optional, but a number of people here have said that without beta blockers the racing heart rate was more distressing.
heavyeyes
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I was referring to the April 2022 version that is pinned in Suicide Discussion. No idea about the newer versions. Apparently there are strict guidelines to be able to subscribe to it now. They require proof that you aren't under 50 years old.
onceuponadec
I am a poor wayfaring stranger
- Dec 23, 2022
- 107
Yes, I just looked it up. There is a November version, but when I tried to subscribe, they said you have to be 50 years old. so I can get it in 29 years.
Javi
Member
- Sep 8, 2022
- 7
both are fine. If you have more than only one source is better
I want to have the november update but apparently they have restricted it to people under 50
onceuponadec
I am a poor wayfaring stranger
- Dec 23, 2022
- 107
I wish someone who had access would give it to us on here.
Microwave
Member
- Jan 1, 2023
- 73
The main difference seems to be the amount of water and the dosage of benzodiazepines. I would be worried about only taking 10mg of Valium as suggested by Stan. But then again, a larger dose does require more water...
heavyeyes
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I wouldn't be using benzos anyway. I don't have access to them.
Microwave
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- Jan 1, 2023
- 73
It's pretty easy to get legit benzos (not pressed) on the dark web now, for a reasonable price. Kraken provides a safe way to buy bitcoin. You just need a Kraken account, Tor browser, a VPN (like Express VPN), and a bitcoin wallet (like Electrum) to use in between Kraken and the vendor.
littlelady774
running on empty
- Dec 20, 2018
- 708
Stan's guide may be outdated. I would just with the ppeh
Shu
As above, So Below.
- Jan 21, 2022
- 2,487
Stan got most if not all of his information from PPH other than his own personal research.
heavyeyes
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- Oct 9, 2022
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I'm not sure I have the mental capacity or the time to learn how to do all of that. I was thinking of foregoing the benzos entirely. Thanks for the info regardless.
Microwave
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- Jan 1, 2023
- 73
Using Kraken is as simple as is using Amazon. All four are just apps your I download from google play store / apple.
pillow933
Student
- Mar 7, 2020
- 115
I think Stan's guide is valid minus the antacids part, seems like there's some reasonable explanation from PP that suggest it's not effective/increases the time it takes to pass out.
I'd really recommend benzos if you can, there's a guide pinned to the forum for dark net stuff and it's really not that difficult if you follow the guide. I think benzos can really have the potential to reduce a lot of the discomfort if you take enough (by just essentially knocking you out whilst everything else does its thing).
I have been on here since the time of Stan , he was a reasonable and practical person in both his messages to others on here and with his guide, i am sure he did it with the greatest of thoughts about others, i do think at the time he was mostly guided by data on the handbook.
As with most things in life , evolution occurs , it seems now the basic components are basically SN, Propranolol and a decent dosage of benzos, like 500mg and anti sickness meds
As with most things in life , evolution occurs , it seems now the basic components are basically SN, Propranolol and a decent dosage of benzos, like 500mg and anti sickness meds
heavyeyes
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I'm still very hesitant about using the dark net to buy anything. I don't want anything ordered from there delivered to my home address because I've heard doing that is a very bad idea. I don't have the financial resources for a P.O. box at this time otherwise I would get one. Plus I don't want to get scammed out of the little money I do have.
Stan's Guide to SN.
Sodium Nitrite (SN) Method Introduction This document has been designed to give a full understanding of SN, what it is, how it works and how to use it. It will use the most simplest way of delivering this information as many members do not have English as their first language. Therefore using...
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pillow933
Student
- Mar 7, 2020
- 115
I only really have experience with Diazepam (Valium), but I know from experience that with low tolerance if you take anything above 20mg you're going to feel very drowsy, and so I can only imagine that a dosage substantially higher than that is going to put you to bed. Faster acting benzos like Xanax (Alprazolam) and Ativan (Lorazepam) will likely have a much greater effect.
mondo9k
Member
- Feb 5, 2023
- 27
I'm over 50 and I paid the $99 so I have full access to the PPEhandbook. PM me if you want cut and paste excerpts. Sorry no way for me to download the whole thing.
Reading Stan's Guide almost feels the same as reading PP. It's like he got the vast majority of his information from there. You won't go wrong by using either.
Regarding benzos, I have a lot of clonazepam that I got in Puerto Vallarta over the counter at farmacias there. Big farmacias will not give it to you without a script, but the smaller farmacias in downtown will offer you a volume discount. 5 boxes for the price of 4! This benzo really helps knock me out for sleep
Reading Stan's Guide almost feels the same as reading PP. It's like he got the vast majority of his information from there. You won't go wrong by using either.
Regarding benzos, I have a lot of clonazepam that I got in Puerto Vallarta over the counter at farmacias there. Big farmacias will not give it to you without a script, but the smaller farmacias in downtown will offer you a volume discount. 5 boxes for the price of 4! This benzo really helps knock me out for sleep
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