Discussion South Korean YouTuber live streamed her goodbye

[todiefor]

South Korean YouTuber Dies After Livestreamed Suicide Attempt

Across the world, livestreamed suicides are becoming increasingly common, sparking concerns about the psychological impact on viewers of such broadcasts.

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[my_sundown]

This world is a cold place. RIP

 

[jonghyun]

its incredible how many people are killing themselves in south korea either from societal pressures or the pressures of fame and online bullying.. so heartbreaking

its incredible how many people are killing themselves in south korea either from societal pressures or the pressures of fame and online bullying.. so heartbreaking

@sulli jonghyun and sulli...

 

[todiefor]

Yeah maybe someone who knows more have more insight, it does seem like the kpop industry is very unforgiving for the performers, their every move scrutinised, no personal life or down time, and do they answer all their own social media and experience a lot of cyber bullying which seem to be cited as a key reason for their suicides, and they were all essentially child stars doing this since very young.

So much pressure to be the best and be perfect in Korea.

Do they even get to keep most of the money? Or is it the media machine making money off them?

 

[jonghyun]

Yeah maybe someone who knows more have more insight, it does seem like the kpop industry is very unforgiving for the performers, their every move scrutinised, no personal life or down time, and do they answer all their own social media and experience a lot of cyber bullying which seem to be cited as a key reason for their suicides, and they were all essentially child stars doing this since very young.

So much pressure to be the best and be perfect in Korea.

korean society in general has very high expectations of their people. the entertainment industry used to be far worse than it is now but there are still things that go on behind the scenes, like encouraging eating disorders, idols' self doubt, money troubles since the way that kpop groups are designed you barely get paid unless you make it BIG, unfair contracts, long training and rehearsal hours as well as long schedules. on top of this, the pressure to never make any mistakes because the public can turn on you so quickly: for some minor drug use, a scandal, a mean comment or just looking tired/upset at a music show - people will write negative comments excessively online. Plus a society that dismisses mental health issues.

if u look at some examples.. sulli was always criticised for things such as "weird behaviour" and going braless, she was bullied so much online and she even tried to take legal action which didnt go very far. goo hara died a month after her best friend sulli and battled legal issues and her ex threatening to destroy her career by releasing a sex tape. Jonghyun suffered from depression from a young age and felt the pressure of being in the spotlight was more he could handle. He regularly spoke about his issues and it showed through his songwriting but in the end he decided he couldnt stomach it any longer. Other actors/actresses talk about career and money worries, societal pressures and feeling like a burden on others. Recently moonbin, it's an unconfirmed case but widely suspected to be suicide - he spoke often about his health issues, doubts and feelings of inadequacy, mental health etc. and he was obviously overworked. The korean entertainment industry is really only for those who can manage to push through all these awful things...

korean society in general has very high expectations of their people. the entertainment industry used to be far worse than it is now but there are still things that go on behind the scenes, like encouraging eating disorders, idols' self doubt, money troubles since the way that kpop groups are designed you barely get paid unless you make it BIG, unfair contracts, long training and rehearsal hours as well as long schedules. on top of this, the pressure to never make any mistakes because the public can turn on you so quickly: for some minor drug use, a scandal, a mean comment or just looking tired/upset at a music show - people will write negative comments excessively online. Plus a society that dismisses mental health issues.

if u look at some examples.. sulli was always criticised for things such as "weird behaviour" and going braless, she was bullied so much online and she even tried to take legal action which didnt go very far. goo hara died a month after her best friend sulli and battled legal issues and her ex threatening to destroy her career by releasing a sex tape. Jonghyun suffered from depression from a young age and felt the pressure of being in the spotlight was more he could handle. He regularly spoke about his issues and it showed through his songwriting but in the end he decided he couldnt stomach it any longer. Other actors/actresses talk about career and money worries, societal pressures and feeling like a burden on others. Recently moonbin, it's an unconfirmed case but widely suspected to be suicide - he spoke often about his health issues, doubts and feelings of inadequacy, mental health etc. and he was obviously overworked. The korean entertainment industry is really only for those who can manage to push through all these awful things...

+ to add, a lot of them have been training since they were children and the entertainment industry is all they have ever known. If their career starts to falter or they decide they dislike it, they probably feel like they cannot do anything else because being an idol/actor is all theyve ever known. It can be so fragile as well, i think, basically my theory with moonbin, he was already suffering a bit emotionally before covid (he had his hiatus), then he came back and it was covid and barely any interactions with fans, after covid they had some scandal with the company, then member rocky left the group and other member MJ went to the military.. it must have felt like the end of astro. The times of change like that are not good for someone emotionally fraught

 

[todiefor]

That sounds intense. It is sad that South Korea has such a high suicide rate, really reflects the pain of individuals living there. I can't imagine what it's like to be confronted with thousands of hateful messages all directed at you because you didn't wear a bra, people are so cruel

 

[SolomonKado]

social media is a place of trolls, bullies, fakers, mean, and very few good people. I watch a favorite twitch channel because the guy seems to not put up with bullies and seems genuine, but in that community there are some disgusting people who show up from time to time making it hard to be there.

 

[Minsu]

I come from South Korea and suicide rate is really high there, especially among young people.
My guess is that it's because of our genetics and big pressure from society to be successful :/
I know quite many pop idols, youtubers and showbiz people from Korea who committed suicide

 

[todiefor]

I come from South Korea and suicide rate is really high there, especially among young people.
My guess is that it's because of our genetics and big pressure from society to be successful :/
I know quite many pop idols, youtubers and showbiz people from Korea who committed suicide

@asiancupcake do you think suicide is more accepted in South Korea than other countries? Or other Asian countries? Because i have seen that suicide is extremely forbidden in some other Asian countries that also have very high social pressure and lower living standards than South Korea, it's like you brought shame upon your entire extended family. Is it like that in South Korea?

 

[Minsu]

@asiancupcake do you think suicide is more accepted in South Korea than other countries? Or other Asian countries? Because i have seen that suicide is extremely forbidden in some other Asian countries, it's like you brought shame upon your entire extended family. Is it like that in South Korea?

I don't think that it's more accepted in Korea.. most of koreans look at suicide as a big failure of family and also our society.
Many young Koreans just can't handle pressure from schools, friends and families..

 

[todiefor]

I don't think that it's more accepted in Korea.. most of koreans look at suicide as a big failure of family and also our society.
Many young Koreans just can't handle pressure from schools, friends and families..

:( I understand thank you for your insight

 

[Techef]

South Korea's had the highest suicide rate among OECD countries for 2 decades now. It's a crazy pressure cooker of a society. Everything is brutal - pressure to succeed, competition (for just about anything), depressed economy and lack of jobs (especially for young people), very little empathy or even mercy towards others, hardly any social welfare system in place aside from healthcare (with mental health being completely deprioritized due to stigma), longest work hours and lowest birthrate in the world. Mental and physical abuse, bullying, mob mentality/witch-hunting are all common and even accepted as part of the culture. It's rare for me to meet a South Korean who doesn't wish they lived somewhere else.