Help Someone present during CTB

[pinkplumeria]

Hello, just joined. Been reading a lot about the SN method. Seems like what I'm leaning towards. Started my checklist on things I need to do and get. I also read Stan's SN guide, very helpful.

I'm thinking about having somebody supportive there with me to watch and make sure It's really done. Thoughts?

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

I'm thinking about having somebody supportive there with me to watch and make sure It's really done. Thoughts?

Could you clarify that? Do you mean to make sure you complete the ctb, or that you follow the method correctly?

 

[Lookingforabus]

I'm thinking about having somebody supportive there with me to watch and make sure It's really done. Thoughts?

That would expose them to a great deal of legal risk, and of course, expose you to the risk of being saved by whomever you invite to watch. Not advisable at all.

 

[gnomeboy17]

I'm thinking about having somebody supportive there with me to watch and make sure It's really done. Thoughts?

Tbh I think that's a bit weird, that would definitely give them long term mental health issues, why would you inflict that on someone. Also, as others said, there may be legal issues such as viewing it as assisted suicide, even if they didn't actually do anything, because from the legal point of view they should have stopped you.

Having said that, if there is someone in your life who's willing to do that, then by all means go ahead, just make sure they're aware of the potential consequences.

 

[pinkplumeria]

Could you clarify that? Do you mean to make sure you complete the ctb, or that you follow the method correctly?

Complete ctb

 

[SettOne1994]

Complete ctb

you got stupid problems.... I have more problems to find the needed material to do it , or to act fearless and cbt in general....What i would have the same with your case is have someone to cbt with or even pass some time toghether and enjoy rather then watch if i was successful in cbt
sry for the stupid*

 

[gnomeboy17]

I partially agree with SettOne1994 if you have someone who's willing to watch you die because they think it will make you feel better, then you should be very greatful that you have someone who really loves you that much.

 

[waterbottleman]

That would expose them to a great deal of legal risk, and of course, expose you to the risk of being saved by whomever you invite to watch. Not advisable at all.

That really stinks but 100 percent understand the legal risk.

Sucks cause I would prefer FaceTiming/Skyping (or whatever with a webcam) someone I trusted here when my time comes and I ctb. Just having a compassionate person I can talk to and a friendly face to look at in my last moments while I'm preparing my SN drink, etc would make me happier and just feel a lot more comfortable with the whole thing. Suicide wouldn't feel nearly as dark and depressing if I had someone with me.

Having an actual irl ctb partner would be even better. I remember when I first joined this forum there were two people who suicided together who were suspected to be users who met on here. Realistically though stranger danger ruins this possibility for the most part, idk if I could trust a random stranger and since I'm a guy I suspect there would be hesitance to trust me due to horny guys ruining it for the rest of us. I'm not looking for anything sexual beyond a hug and holding hands, I'd even hold hands with and hug a guy I don't care, it's the basic human contact aNd connection that makes your last moments seem so much more pleasant compare to doing it alone.

Unfortunately as usual in my life I have to do everything alone and all by myself =(

 

[gnomeboy17]

I partially agree with SettOne1994 if you have someone who's willing to watch you die because they think it will make you feel better, then you should be very greatful that you have someone who really loves you that much.

Personally, I believe if you have someone who loves and cares about you a lot then pretty much whatever the reason you want to CTB you can get through it.

 

[pinkplumeria]

Tbh I think that's a bit weird, that would definitely give them long term mental health issues, why would you inflict that on someone. Also, as others said, there may be legal issues such as viewing it as assisted suicide, even if they didn't actually do anything, because from the legal point of view they should have stopped you.

Having said that, if there is someone in your life who's willing to do that, then by all means go ahead, just make sure they're aware of the potential consequences.

It's all still in the brainstorming phase for me right now. Probably won't have somebody there. I guess I have that fear of it not working.

And you present a good point, I wouldn't want to inflict any kind of pain towards somebody else. Thank you

 

[gnomeboy17]

It's all still in the brainstorming phase for me right now. Probably won't have somebody there. I guess I have that fear of it not working.

And you present a good point, I wouldn't want to inflict any kind of pain towards somebody else. Thank you

Sorry if I came across as rude, I understand why it's something you may want to do, but as said I would advise against it. Again, apologies for being hostile.

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

Complete ctb

Thanks for clarifying. That's a tough one. It places responsibility on another and requires trust. If it's someone you know and trust, you have to trust they will not report you or otherwise try to stop you, before or during the attempt. If it is someone with whom you have not deeply and repeatedly established firm trust , such as by finding someone on the partners thread, you are placing yourself in jeopardy for potential emotional and physical abuse. At the very worst, you could be assaulted and/or trafficked for a very long time. In short, advise against pursuing, but respect your right to choose.

 

[pinkplumeria]

you got stupid problems.... I have more problems to find the needed material to do it , or to act fearless and cbt in general....What i would have the same with your case is have someone to cbt with or even pass some time toghether and enjoy rather then watch if i was successful in cbt
sry for the stupid*

I'm open to find someone who wants to CTB as well. Just thinking in all angles that come to mind.
No worries about stupid. Appreciate the feedback.

 

[LastRide]

I partially agree with SettOne1994 if you have someone who's willing to watch you die because they think it will make you feel better, then you should be very greatful that you have someone who really loves you that much.

And if I had someone who loved me enough to be willing to do this I might just wait to die naturally...unless it bothers the person who loves you to see you suffer of course !

 

[pinkplumeria]

Thanks for clarifying. That's a tough one. It places responsibility on another and requires trust. If it's someone you know and trust, you have to trust they will not report you or otherwise try to stop you, before or during the attempt. If it is someone with whom you have not deeply and repeatedly established firm trust , such as by finding someone on the partners thread, you are placing yourself in jeopardy for potential emotional and physical abuse. At the very worst, you could be assaulted and/or trafficked for a very long time. In short, advise against pursuing, but respect your right to choose.

Oh wow, thanks for the info. This is why I wanted to bring the question, to see if I'm missing something.
Thank you for the information. Appreciate it.

Sorry if I came across as rude, I understand why it's something you may want to do, but as said I would advise against it. Again, apologies for being hostile.

Did not come off rude at. I appreciate all feedback.

 

[SettOne1994]

can u pm me? i cant

 

[pinkplumeria]

can u pm me? i cant

Not sure how yet. Still learning the ropes here.

 

[ghostspace]

I think I could do something like that, like from video chat or messaging. It would be hard, but if I knew the person was certain and that they'd feel safer and more comfortable not being alone, I could.

I know that I wouldn't want to be alone. I'd be way more terrified no matter how ready I was, but I'd also be afraid to ask anyone to do that.

That really stinks but 100 percent understand the legal risk.

Sucks cause I would prefer FaceTiming/Skyping (or whatever with a webcam) someone I trusted here when my time comes and I ctb. Just having a compassionate person I can talk to and a friendly face to look at in my last moments while I'm preparing my SN drink, etc would make me happier and just feel a lot more comfortable with the whole thing. Suicide wouldn't feel nearly as dark and depressing if I had someone with me.

Having an actual irl ctb partner would be even better. I remember when I first joined this forum there were two people who suicided together who were suspected to be users who met on here. Realistically though stranger danger ruins this possibility for the most part, idk if I could trust a random stranger and since I'm a guy I suspect there would be hesitance to trust me due to horny guys ruining it for the rest of us. I'm not looking for anything sexual beyond a hug and holding hands, I'd even hold hands with and hug a guy I don't care, it's the basic human contact aNd connection that makes your last moments seem so much more pleasant compare to doing it alone.

Unfortunately as usual in my life I have to do everything alone and all by myself =(

I agree with this. I'd be willing to do it for someone over webcam if they were scared to be alone when they CTB.

Definitely not in person.

I don't think it's a legal risk if it's via video chat; if I don't know the person's real name or location, there's nothing I'd be able to do to stop them. I'd just be keeping them company and giving them someone to talk to.