some thoughts on the status quo

[little helpers]

you're not "saving" a life when person got no life to live at all.
don't know why I realized that only till now. should've been apparent the whole time.

and SS is kinda being shut down. fuck NYT. fuck Refinery26. fuck all you motherfucking ableist pro-forced-torture people. we ain't "pro-death", and "pro-choice" hasn't been my favorite descriptor either. it's just autonomy.
and mind you that autonomy is *not* "free will".

I don't like an us-versus-them description. it makes people stubborn. it's not about the person that you are, but the illusioned and delusioned beliefs you hold when facts are just fucking there. so you can change. change how you think and what you do. stop hurting people, starting from now. that's what I always say to people. I cannot care less if you're man or woman. I want to know if you currently believe in sexism. worships it. only, enough boys and men benefit way too much out of patriarchy at the emotional cost of not getting to know many women too well as worthy, interesting, deserving human beings. that's the same thing with racism, ableism. or suicide/assisted suicide policy. and if you're BIPOC enough to know that most Whites simply *are* practicing racism, you better also know that *most* men simply *do* practice patriarchy at this point of their lives. for securing socioeconomic resources and social/political, sexual privileges.

but no one said they can't change. stop hurting trans and cis women and queer and trans/QTPOC people. stop forcing human sacrifice schemes on all of us. including on the suicidal.

suicide is a difficult topic. it just is. going against what all organisms are programmed to do - to survive and live. it's difficult enough that I reattempted and reattempted and reattempted and just couldn't get my survival instinct go screw itself. so I stayed on the forum. taking its methods but also entertaining myself and those I care about, in the time where I'd have to be alive. but it being difficult, for the rationally and determinatedly suicidal, for the suicidee and the people grieving, shouldn't mean anything like a suicide watch. one I'm on now. and taking down methods (an action I do understand given the heat we been attracting) *is* suicide watch. I'd have to go, prematurely is not a good enough word, cuz autonomy is not a thing in this world I'm living in, the realities we live under. and they take more of that away from us. so much for making it more hopeless! like the point @Meretlein made in the pinned post, it's a question whether the suicidee values dignity, autonomy, bodily inviolability/physical integrity etc *more*, than being saved of a life they really don't wanna, and often just can't, live. and I'm gonna say that like all questions directed towards personal (not political or what) preferences, the answer is simply to ask. but the world doesn't listen.

that post's gonna age well, I think. a collective voice for us all.

Edit: typos and grammar

 

[SuicidallyCurious]

NYT trying to keep debt slaves alive so they pay into the failing systems NYT is at the core of

 

[Gustav Hartmann]

How can a local sheet have such an influence on an international forum?

 

[KuriGohan&Kamehameha]

How can a local sheet have such an influence on an international forum?

The United States government has always made it their business to meddle in worldly affairs when it does not concern them. They see their own country as the center of the world, with the obligation to control the world stage, and think they should have jurisdiction over international matters.

You can smell this attitude all over the documents sent to federal governments by American politicians who were riled up by the NYT articles. They want control over the entire internet when they are a small ruling body governing one country, not the entire planet. A troubling historical trend that's reared it's head once more, except this time they are targeting a fundamental principal of their government's doctrine (free speech) rather than a political ideology like communism.

 

[Hans Voralberg]

suicide is a difficult topic. it just is. going against what all organisms are programmed to do - to survive and live. it's difficult enough that I reattempted and reattempted and reattempted and just couldn't get my survival instinct go screw itself. so I stayed on the forum.

Literally my story too. I just have too strong SI and this site is only place i feel save to talk about all this struggle.

 

[little helpers]

How can a local sheet have such an influence on an international forum?

okay, first. if you're not from the US, know this. NYT is not "everything New York City". its everything America. third most-read newspaper in the US. and worldwide readership.

I think the fact of English being the dominating language on SS already says a lot. and see, you don't get "US people, where you get xyz" posts here. at least I've never seen that. but there's plenty of those concerning UK folks. so that's pretty telling.

and to answer your question, it's simply shared interest, joined efforts. other influential papers can oppose if they wanna, you know. and silence is acquiescence (in this case). complicity.

The United States government has always made it their business to meddle in worldly affairs when it does not concern them. They see their own country as the center of the world, with the obligation to control the world stage, and think they should have jurisdiction over international matters.

yeah and definitely this^. look at the Drug War. how it went from a US thing to a UN thing. look at Vietnam and Middle East. go listen to Testify by Rage Against the Machine. and Prison Song by System of a Down. (I'm saying this to Gustav.) you'd get the gist.

 

[Gustav Hartmann]

It was a rhetorical question.

 

[little helpers]

It was a rhetorical question.

sorry. misunderstood and overrated. lol.