Method Some questions on hanging

[Chr0nicAnhedonic]

Hi all!

I've been a longtime lurker on SS, but finally got around to creating an account. I think I'm pretty dead set on hanging as my method, but I have a couple logistical questions on doing it.

1) Does the rope need to be straight down, or is an angle permissible? I'm thinking about using a shelf as an anchor and dropping out of a 2nd floor window (the shelf would be behind me), but I wasn't sure if the drop needed to be straight down in order to kill me with minimal pain.

2) Is there a recommended knot to tie around the anchor? I know you want to use a slipknot around your neck, but I haven't really found much information on what knot to tie around the anchor. Step-by-step guides on tying it would be much appreciated too.

3) What's the best way to test your setup? I'm mostly concerned about how well the rope/anchor will hold during convulsions, is the best way to test it just to tie the rope and shake it violently?

I'd glanced in the hanging megathread already, but most of the questions/answers there concerned partial hanging and I wasn't able to really find what I was looking for. Thanks in advance!

 

[リンさん]

Here's a good knot for your anchor point

 

[nicotine_goblin]

Hey, welcome to ss. Are you planning on doing a long drop hanging? Either way I believe it's better to drop straight down. Snuggle hitch is good, that's the one Rina sent a guide for. For testing it's better to use your full weight. What kind of rope do you have? I believe the recommended width is 10-15, also depends on the kind of rope. You can look up the manufacturer site to see how much it can hold, should be at least double your weight for short drop, and quite a bit more for long drop since you need a force of around 1700 j to break the neck. Also are you sure the shelf will hold?

 

[Worndown]

A lot to think about here.
Gravity will always pull you down. Angles can complicate things. Way too many variables to discuss.

Test any setup holding the rope with both hands and see if it holds your weight. Wiggle around to simulate body motion.

Drop out a window when tied to a shelf. Your setup will likely fail but the fall might kill you.

Tie any knot that will hold. What knots can you tie? Tie and test.

 

[nicotine_goblin]

A lot to think about here.
Gravity will always pull you down. Angles can complicate things. Way too many variables to discuss.

Test any setup holding the rope with both hands and see if it holds your weight. Wiggle around to simulate body motion.

Drop out a window when tied to a shelf. Your setup will likely fail but the fall might kill you.

Tie any knot that will hold. What knots can you tie? Tie and test.

They said 2nd floor window so I doubt that would kill. I'd rethink the set up, anchor it to something sturdier

 

[Chr0nicAnhedonic]

Hey, welcome to ss. Are you planning on doing a long drop hanging? Either way I believe it's better to drop straight down. Snuggle hitch is good, that's the one Rina sent a guide for. For testing it's better to use your full weight. What kind of rope do you have? I believe the recommended width is 10-15, also depends on the kind of rope. You can look up the manufacturer site to see how much it can hold, should be at least double your weight for short drop, and quite a bit more for long drop since you need a force of around 1700 j to break the neck. Also are you sure the shelf will hold?

Initially, I was planning to do asphyxiation rather than breaking the neck because I wasn't if the drop from my window would be far enough to do so. I've got 10mm rope made for docking boats, but I'll have to double check to see if it'll actually hold my weight (initially didn't think much of it because I'm a fairly skinny fella).

They said 2nd floor window so I doubt that would kill. I'd rethink the set up, anchor it to something sturdier

Yeah, I think I'm gonna have to go back to the drawing board on this. I don't have any ceiling fixtures where I live (none suitable for holding a body anyway), so I thought the shelf/window strategy would work because I figured the shelf was sturdy enough to hold me while slipped out the window. Glad I asked before trying anything.

 

[Worndown]

Hanging is basically very simple. A rope, a chair and a strong pipe or beam gets it done.

 

[nicotine_goblin]

Initially, I was planning to do asphyxiation rather than breaking the neck because I wasn't if the drop from my window would be far enough to do so. I've got 10mm rope made for docking boats, but I'll have to double check to see if it'll actually hold my weight (initially didn't think much of it because I'm a fairly skinny fella).


Yeah, I think I'm gonna have to go back to the drawing board on this. I don't have any ceiling fixtures where I live (none suitable for holding a body anyway), so I thought the shelf/window strategy would work because I figured the shelf was sturdy enough to hold me while slipped out the window. Glad I asked before trying anything.

Long drop is unforgiving in terms of mistakes, a lot of variables and if you mess something up you'll end up with a much more painful short drop basically, or worse. I wouldn't recommend doing it unless you're 100% sure what you've doing. At home it's easier to set up partial hanging because the anchor doesn't have to be as sturdy
https://web.archive.org/web/20180113134153if/https://a.uguu.se/N1e53EmCSkUr_Howtohangyourself.pdf here's some useful info on full and partial hanging, there's more in the pinned thread on methods

 

[Chr0nicAnhedonic]

Long drop is unforgiving in terms of mistakes, a lot of variables and if you mess something up you'll end up with a much more painful short drop basically, or worse. I wouldn't recommend doing it unless you're 100% sure what you've doing. At home it's easier to set up partial hanging because the anchor doesn't have to be as sturdy
https://web.archive.org/web/20180113134153if/https://a.uguu.se/N1e53EmCSkUr_Howtohangyourself.pdf here's some useful info on full and partial hanging, there's more in the pinned thread on methods

I initially wanted to do partial because of how easy it sounded and I *think* I have a good enough anchor for it, but I hadn't really come across many success stories, so I doubted the efficacy of it.

I'll have to take another look at those resources, thank you!

 

[nicotine_goblin]

I initially wanted to do partial because of how easy it sounded and I *think* I have a good enough anchor for it, but I hadn't really come across many success stories, so I doubted the efficacy of it.

I'll have to take another look at those resources, thank you!

I've actually read in "Suicide and attempted suicide" by Stone (it's in resources too) that roughly 60% of hangings were partial in a certain year. It seems like a decent method to me but hard to pull off

 

[Chr0nicAnhedonic]

I've actually read in "Suicide and attempted suicide" by Stone (it's in resources too) that roughly 60% of hangings were partial in a certain year. It seems like a decent method to me but hard to pull off

I clearly didn't do much research lmfao

What makes it hard to pull off? Just SI or are there more logistical problems?

 

[claraisnotcarol]

wow, I actually thought long hanging was easier, maybe cause of breaking the neck. idk I'm kind of scared of asphyxiation, and I've been thinking it for a while now.
and matching profile pics!

 

[Chr0nicAnhedonic]

wow, I actually thought long hanging was easier, maybe cause of breaking the neck. idk I'm kind of scared of asphyxiation, and I've been thinking it for a while now.
and matching profile pics!

Yeah, I'm not really that afraid of asphyxiation (I tend to choke myself when I self-harm), but I can definitely see why that would be scary for someone.

Also, yay for matching! I swear there's a link between being suicidal and being a Madoka fan lmao

 

[nicotine_goblin]

I clearly didn't do much research lmfao

What makes it hard to pull off? Just SI or are there more logistical problems?

SI and it can take a while to find the correct spot, where it's easiest to constrict the arteries. Usually it's easier slightly under the Adam's apple and when you fall into the noose quickly. You can tell that it worked if you start feeling weak and your head is NOT filling up with blood. If it is it means you only blocked the veins or took too long

 

[claraisnotcarol]

Yeah, I'm not really that afraid of asphyxiation (I tend to choke myself when I self-harm), but I can definitely see why that would be scary for someone.

Also, yay for matching! I swear there's a link between being suicidal and being a Madoka fan lmao

it's curious because I also have a thing for choking, it calms me when I have an anxiety attack and also in a sexual way.
I think it's the fear of dying in pain.

SI and it can take a while to find the correct spot, where it's easiest to constrict the arteries. Usually it's easier slightly under the Adam's apple and when you fall into the noose quickly. You can tell that it worked if you start feeling weak and your head is NOT filling up with blood. If it is it means you only blocked the veins or took too long

thanks I thought it was over the Adam's apple

 

[nicotine_goblin]

Also in partial the goal isn't asphyxiation, you're supposed to put just enough pressure to block the arteries and not enough to block the trachea, you aren't gonna choke, just pass out within 15-20 seconds due to oxygen rich blood not reaching your brain

 

[With0ut]

Also in partial the goal isn't asphyxiation, you're supposed to put just enough pressure to block the arteries and not enough to block the trachea, you aren't gonna choke, just pass out within 15-20 seconds due to oxygen rich blood not reaching your brain

so it's the night night method but with a rope?

 

[nicotine_goblin]

so it's the night night method but with a rope?

Basically, same idea

 

[With0ut]

Basically, same idea

i never knew that about it, that definitely makes it seem more pleasant then i thought, although if something does go wrong it seems like a hellish way to go.

 

[Chr0nicAnhedonic]

it's curious because I also have a thing for choking, it calms me when I have an anxiety attack and also in a sexual way.
I think it's the fear of dying in pain.

That makes sense to me, it's why I didn't go with any of the more violent methods. Don't really want my last thoughts to be "oh god I am in the worst pain imaginable", no matter how much of a masochist I might be.

Also in partial the goal isn't asphyxiation, you're supposed to put just enough pressure to block the arteries and not enough to block the trachea, you aren't gonna choke, just pass out within 15-20 seconds due to oxygen rich blood not reaching your brain

It's interesting because I already knew this and had found the sweet spot when I first got my rope, but I completely spaced on it here.

 

[claraisnotcarol]

at this point the only thing I want is not getting caught before it's completely done. it's like, 30 min until there's no way to be saved right?

 

[Chr0nicAnhedonic]

at this point the only thing I want is not getting caught before it's completely done. it's like, 30 min until there's no way to be saved right?

Yeah, you have to have at least 30 minutes alone. Can't have anyone who'd be able to see/hear you in that time.

I work nights, so by the time I come home, everyone in the house is already asleep and they're pretty heavy sleepers too. I'm pretty sure I have that part taken care of at least.

 

[claraisnotcarol]

Yeah, you have to have at least 30 minutes alone. Can't have anyone who'd be able to see/hear you in that time.

I work nights, so by the time I come home, everyone in the house is already asleep and they're pretty heavy sleepers too. I'm pretty sure I have that part taken care of at least.

oof, I couldn't do it in my house, but because I have an eight year old brother and I don't want my baby brother to grow up traumatized. also, I thought, what if I do it in the woods or something? but then some rando could find me and my letters and who knows how many time could've passed since I'd died till I was found.
ugh, even for death I seem a petty princess.

oof, I couldn't do it in my house, but because I have an eight year old brother and I don't want my baby brother to grow up traumatized. also, I thought, what if I do it in the woods or something? but then some rando could find me and my letters and who knows how many time could've passed since I'd died till I was found.
ugh, even for death I seem a petty princess.

maybe when I know for sure that my brother won't be home for at least a day? and I have a seventeen year old too. I just don't want them to see it

 

[saddavyd]

Yeah, you have to have at least 30 minutes alone. Can't have anyone who'd be able to see/hear you in that time.

I work nights, so by the time I come home, everyone in the house is already asleep and they're pretty heavy sleepers too. I'm pretty sure I have that part taken care of at least.

Would you be found by your own family. This happenned to us when our son ctb by hanging. It was a trauma that never goes away, in top of the loss, it would be kinder if your family do not have to be the ones who find you. It's your choice what you do of course and I home you find peace, but try not to make it any harder than it already will be for those you leave behind.

 

[Chr0nicAnhedonic]

oof, I couldn't do it in my house, but because I have an eight year old brother and I don't want my baby brother to grow up traumatized. also, I thought, what if I do it in the woods or something? but then some rando could find me and my letters and who knows how many time could've passed since I'd died till I was found.
ugh, even for death I seem a petty princess.

maybe when I know for sure that my brother won't be home for at least a day? and I have a seventeen year old too. I just don't want them to see it

Would you be found by your own family. This happenned to us when our son ctb by hanging. It was a trauma that never goes away, in top of the loss, it would be kinder if your family do not have to be the ones who find you. It's your choice what you do of course and I home you find peace, but try not to make it any harder than it already will be for those you leave behind.

I used to be a lot more worried about my family finding me and being forever traumatized by it (still kinda am, it was the reason I didn't go through with it for the longest time), but at some point I stopped caring. I don't really have a good rationale beyond "what about me and my pain", I've gotten a *lot* more selfish lately.

I'm not in any rush to CTB just yet honestly, there's still a few things I want to do before I go. If things go well, I could have my own place in a year or so, so I'll try to hold out for that. I just wanted a plan for if things go south between now and then, really.

 

[nicotine_goblin]

If you want to do partial hanging but afraid you'll be discovered by someone close, you could book a hotel room and do it there. Would have to improvise the anchor point though

 

[claraisnotcarol]

I used to be a lot more worried about my family finding me and being forever traumatized by it (still kinda am, it was the reason I didn't go through with it for the longest time), but at some point I stopped caring. I don't really have a good rationale beyond "what about me and my pain", I've gotten a *lot* more selfish lately.

I'm not in any rush to CTB just yet honestly, there's still a few things I want to do before I go. If things go well, I could have my own place in a year or so, so I'll try to hold out for that. I just wanted a plan for if things go south between now and then, really.

I understand, it may be long but I've given myself 6 years tops, no more than thirty years (also I'm really scared of getting old)

I really dont mind that much about my parents finding me, specially because they think I'm bluffing! after hospitals, overdoses, ans self harm!
but as time passes it feels a lot more difficult to commit the "perfect ctb" to oneself. years ago I thought it would be the easiest thing in the world.