Some judgement on the forum

[Zeus35]

I have abit of a problem and I'll say it how it is. I have noticed alot of questions and judgements regarding VSED. The reality is most of you who comment on it have never tried it, you've just read what you have after consulting Dr Google and taken a few accounts as gospel. I'd also like to point out that I don't think someone would likely fail VSED because of their lack of determination but I think they would fail because of being told they aren't capable of completing VSED. None of us know each other in real life. What one person cannot do another person can. What one person's idea of death being a nightmare is another person's idea of peace. Personally I think VSED is an extremely easy way to die. Why? Because I have gone 9 days without eating and drinking before. I don't think anyone who makes comments has gone that long without eating or drinking before or even tried VSED. This is a pro choice group so if someone states their method of death they shouldn't be hit with so much negativity. I see people saying they'll hang themselve, jump Infront of trains, do this or do that. I don't discourage them or imply they are incapable. Just because some of you don't have much willpower doesn't mean I don't. How would you know whether something is impossible if you've either never tried it or given up? I only started eating and drinking after 9 days because I was forced to. If your trying VSED and your trying to maintain a normal life such as going to work and or university I would definitely say it is very difficult. I don't know if it would be possible in those circumstances. I do however know that if your not doing those things and your laying in bed all day with depression it really isn't that hard to do as long as you have willpower. There's alot of negativity and judgement regarding particular methods. So it doesn't seem very "pro-choice" to me. I won't be documenting anything from now on because I don't really need to hear the negativity. Have any of you ever tried VSED for 9 days? I have. Do any of you know that when you try VSED for long enough that you begin to hallucinate, suffer delusions, and are so weak you can't even walk properly without feeling like your going to faint? You sleep alot too, in the last stages of VSED your alive but mentally your not there so it's almost like in the last stages of your death your actually not really experiencing it. Most people do not last longer than 2 weeks with VSED they usually die within two weeks. The case where the person lasted almost three weeks. If you had read that case that man actually did have access to some water. He was not completely without water. He was licking the water of the walls apparently because there was water tricking down the walls, there was also something else but he did get access to water. Not much but enough to keep him going for that long. I believe he also drank his own urine. Which would explain why he lasted that long. Most people do not it is extremely rare. If you lack willpower then that's a quality you lack. Most people with autism have very strong willpowers. I doubt someone would not finish VSED because they lacked willpower I think they'd fail because of all the negativity and judgement regarding it. Unless you've ever gone almost 2 weeks without drinking or eating you don't really have enough experience to be throwing such judgement around. If you don't like what I say that's fine. Personally I think any method of death would be impossible for you guys because your all still here after trying. VSED isn't impossible for everyone. It's impossible for people who do not have strong willpower.

 

[Graytaichi]

Hope u succeed. 14 days is too long.

 

[NearlyIrrelevantCake]

Y'know, I'd read this if there were line breaks instead of a giant block of words.

 

[WiltedSoul]

I always interpreted the negativity surrounding certain methods as concern, not people assuming someone is incapable. I hope you find peace, and I'm sorry if you feel like people on this forum are nagging you. (I'm extra sorry if they actually ARE nagging you - I don't know the situation, haven't seen any of your threads.)

I think a lot of unpopular methods are very possible, depending on the circumstances and individual, like you said. The closest I have ever come to success was by suffocating myself with a pillow. Lots of people here seem to be utterly horrified by the prospect of not getting any air and assume someone doing something like this would become panicked and fail, but we're all different and evidently none of this is very clear cut lol.

I do think this forum attracts a lot of weenies (including ME!) because it allows open discussion of methods. People with a lot of willpower/pain tolerance don't usually need to go on the internet to find methods, you know?

 

[Al Cappella]

That's one way to interpret it. Another might be to think that folks comment out of compassion, not wanting you to experience the sort of pain they believe is associated with VSED. At the end of the day what you do is up to you. But yes, if you don't care for people commenting in a way you don't like, then posting about this thing is not for you. Lastly, for obvious reasons, no one is going to cheer you on.

 

[motel rooms]

I think VSED is an extremely easy way to die. Why? Because I have gone 9 days without eating and drinking before.

You've gone 9 days without drinking anything before? Really?

 

[Shu]

You've gone 9 days without drinking anything before? Really?

I've gone six days without eating and drinking. I have friends that do 12 day dry fast. Mind you they are in tropical climates. It is very possible. It wasn't painful for me at all either. I actually felt really fucking good

 

[motel rooms]

I've gone six days without eating and drinking. I have friends that do 12 day dry fast. Mind you they are in tropical climates. It is very possible. It wasn't painful for me at all either. I actually felt really fucking good

Dehydration feels really fucking good? Your friends didn't experience extreme thirst, dizziness, headaches & eventually

• A temperature of 103 degrees Fahrenheit or higher
• Muscle twitching
• Red, hot, dry skin
• Nausea
• Rapid pulse
• Seizures
• Confusion, altered mental state, slurred speech
• Fainting, loss of consciousness
• Hallucinations, delusions, delirium

?

 

[Shu]

Dehydration feels really fucking good? Your friends didn't experience extreme thirst, dizziness, headaches & eventually

• A temperature of 103 degrees Fahrenheit or higher
• Muscle twitching
• Red, hot, dry skin
• Nausea
• Rapid pulse
• Seizures
• Confusion, altered mental state, slurred speech
• Fainting, loss of consciousness
• Hallucinations, delusions, delirium

?

They seem to be fine. They just get exhausted after a while. Not as much energy. The most I experienced was dry lips. My lips got really chap. I'm not sure if they do hard dry fast (no shower or contact with water) or not. I was showering.
I wish I would have documented it. You can see other people's experiences on YouTube though. This is just one person.
The first day or two was hard because of hunger pangs but yeah afterwards I felt amazing.
Lol this dude is wild. He's funny though.

These people probably aren't the heat examples to share but they have shorter videos. I didn't want to post hour long videos.

 

[BigG91]

I have abit of a problem and I'll say it how it is. I have noticed alot of questions and judgements regarding VSED. The reality is most of you who comment on it have never tried it, you've just read what you have after consulting Dr Google and taken a few accounts as gospel. I'd also like to point out that I don't think someone would likely fail VSED because of their lack of determination but I think they would fail because of being told they aren't capable of completing VSED. None of us know each other in real life. What one person cannot do another person can. What one person's idea of death being a nightmare is another person's idea of peace. Personally I think VSED is an extremely easy way to die. Why? Because I have gone 9 days without eating and drinking before. I don't think anyone who makes comments has gone that long without eating or drinking before or even tried VSED. This is a pro choice group so if someone states their method of death they shouldn't be hit with so much negativity. I see people saying they'll hang themselve, jump Infront of trains, do this or do that. I don't discourage them or imply they are incapable. Just because some of you don't have much willpower doesn't mean I don't. How would you know whether something is impossible if you've either never tried it or given up? I only started eating and drinking after 9 days because I was forced to. If your trying VSED and your trying to maintain a normal life such as going to work and or university I would definitely say it is very difficult. I don't know if it would be possible in those circumstances. I do however know that if your not doing those things and your laying in bed all day with depression it really isn't that hard to do as long as you have willpower. There's alot of negativity and judgement regarding particular methods. So it doesn't seem very "pro-choice" to me. I won't be documenting anything from now on because I don't really need to hear the negativity. Have any of you ever tried VSED for 9 days? I have. Do any of you know that when you try VSED for long enough that you begin to hallucinate, suffer delusions, and are so weak you can't even walk properly without feeling like your going to faint? You sleep alot too, in the last stages of VSED your alive but mentally your not there so it's almost like in the last stages of your death your actually not really experiencing it. Most people do not last longer than 2 weeks with VSED they usually die within two weeks. The case where the person lasted almost three weeks. If you had read that case that man actually did have access to some water. He was not completely without water. He was licking the water of the walls apparently because there was water tricking down the walls, there was also something else but he did get access to water. Not much but enough to keep him going for that long. I believe he also drank his own urine. Which would explain why he lasted that long. Most people do not it is extremely rare. If you lack willpower then that's a quality you lack. Most people with autism have very strong willpowers. I doubt someone would not finish VSED because they lacked willpower I think they'd fail because of all the negativity and judgement regarding it. Unless you've ever gone almost 2 weeks without drinking or eating you don't really have enough experience to be throwing such judgement around. If you don't like what I say that's fine. Personally I think any method of death would be impossible for you guys because your all still here after trying. VSED isn't impossible for everyone. It's impossible for people who do not have strong willpower.

I've seen your post few days ago about using Hanging Method and you had posted pictures of Rope and a bottle of Jack Daniels....
How did that fail as hanging is very reliable ..?

 

[whatevs]

Y'know, I'd read this if there were line breaks instead of a giant block of words.

You just lack the willpower autists like me and the OP have.

For the record, I did a 14 day water fast and by the end of it I was weak and lightheaded but it wasn't anything that extreme. What was intense was breaking the fast with oatmeal, I spent days with a horribly inflammed gastrointestinal tract. You have to break the fast with soup or juice

 

[Shu]

You just lack the willpower autists like me and the OP have.

For the record, I did a 14 day water fast and by the end if it I was weak and lightheaded but it wasn't anything that extreme. What was intense was breaking the fast with oatmeal, I spent days with a horribly inflammed gastrointestinal tract. You have to break the fast with soup or juice

Yeah.. that's not the way to break a water fast lol sorry that happened. You didn't research into how to break a fast? lol. I broke it with broth and then watermelon when I did 23 days. Were you drinking a full gallon a day?

 

[GentleJerk]

If someone wants to do that and thinks its easy, then good luck to them. I respect that decision.

They put people into comas for VSED in many cases, because like my grandfather, they can suffer greatly from lack of food and water during the final days. So concern for people wanting to do this without medical assistance is warranted.

 

[downndone2]

I've posted in your prior threads about possible failure. I'm certainly not searching Dr. Google, I'm actually a medical professional. Vsed is very difficult.
The majority of people commenting arent nagging or bullying you, everyone is simply concerned about the amount of prolonged suffering your method will entail.
I would never encourage anyone to ctb and would certainly discourage you from this method
I understand being able to lay in bed with depression and hardly get up to eat or drink, I do it all the time for hours but not days. If I go 12 hrs without drinking, I'm completely parched when I get up.
And I cant help but think about those poor kittens as you eventually get into delirium and suffer hallucinations
If you're dead set and determined on this method, I hope you find peace however it may work out

 

[whatevs]

Yeah.. that's not the way to break a water fast lol sorry that happened. You didn't research into how to break a fast? lol. I broke it with broth and then watermelon when I did 23 days. Were you drinking a full gallon a day?

I actually knew how to break it, but for some reason ignored that knowledge. Perhaps the fast affected my judgement?

 

[Shu]

I actually knew how to break it, but for some reason ignored that knowledge. Perhaps the fast affected my judgement?

Did you drink a gallon a day?

 

[whatevs]

Did you drink a gallon a day?

I normally don't drink much water, so probably not.

 

[Shu]

I normally don't drink much water, so probably not.

That was probably the issue. I drank a gallon of water a day during my water fast. I never had any issues other than sores on my lips toward the end.

 

[Riddle]

If you are you young and healthy you may be able to go 14 days, but it is not like you will die peacefully on day 15.. Eventually your body will start losing the fight whether it takes 20 or 30 days or whatever. Once your body truly starts failing you will experience severe symptoms.

So OP, you may have gone to 9 days but you cannot say for certain what 10, 11, 12, etc. will be like and every day up until the day you pass. From what we know, at some it won't be prety. Ultimately it is your decision but I do think most people speak out against from a point of compassion.

 

[Foresight]

We discuss pros and cons of methods. We're pro-choice about suicide, and then we dive into the effectiveness, peacefulness, level of effort, safety(death and not vegetative coma) etc. of methods. We're still human with opinions and concerns.

Sometimes it needs to be done. We have people post they're going to pop a bottle of tylenol or benzos. It's the nature of the site to say hey, the evidence shows that's ineffective or extremely painful. Most if time it's done out of concern.

 

[downndone2]

I also forgot to say I think you'll get to a point where you wont be responding to people you usually do and someone may call for help, then you'll wake up in a hospital

 

[motel rooms]

Sometimes it needs to be done. We have people post they're going to pop a bottle of tylenol or benzos. It's the nature of the site to say hey, the evidence shows that's ineffective or extremely painful. Most if time it's done out of concern.

Yep. And it's not like we can actually stop anyone from VSED'ing themselves or attempting to die by OD'ing on benzos, diet pills, vitamin C or red SkiTtLes (Please remember that only the red ones are lethal, people! Only red = dead).

 

[Tamara Tami]

Tengo un pequeño problema y lo diré como es. He notado muchas preguntas y juicios con respecto a VSED. La realidad es que la mayoría de los que lo comentan nunca lo han probado, solo han leído lo que tienen después de consultar al Dr. Google y tomaron algunas cuentas como evangelio. También me gustaría señalar que no creo que alguien pueda fallar en VSED debido a su falta de determinación, pero creo que fallaría porque le dijeron que no es capaz de completar VSED. Ninguno de nosotros nos conocemos en la vida real. Lo que una persona no puede hacer, otra persona lo puede hacer. Lo que la idea de una persona de que la muerte es una pesadilla es la idea de paz de otra. Personalmente, creo que VSED es una forma extremadamente fácil de morir. ¿Por qué? Porque he pasado 9 días sin comer ni beber antes. Yo no' No creo que nadie que haga comentarios haya pasado tanto tiempo sin comer o beber antes o incluso sin haber probado VSED. Este es un grupo de elección profesional, por lo que si alguien dice su método de muerte, no debería ser golpeado con tanta negatividad. Veo gente diciendo que se ahorcarán, saltarán frente a los trenes, harán esto o aquello. No los desanimo ni insinúo que son incapaces. El hecho de que algunos de ustedes no tengan mucha fuerza de voluntad no significa que yo no la tenga. ¿Cómo sabrías si algo es imposible si nunca lo intentaste o te rendiste? Solo comencé a comer y beber después de 9 días porque me obligaron a hacerlo. Si está probando VSED y está tratando de mantener una vida normal, como ir al trabajo oa la universidad, definitivamente diría que es muy difícil. No sé si sería posible en esas circunstancias. Sin embargo, sé que si no estás haciendo esas cosas y estás acostado todo el día en la cama con depresión, realmente no es tan difícil de hacer, siempre y cuando tengas fuerza de voluntad. Hay mucha negatividad y juicio con respecto a métodos particulares. Así que no me parece muy "pro-elección". No documentaré nada de ahora en adelante porque realmente no necesito escuchar la negatividad. ¿Alguno de ustedes ha probado VSED durante 9 días? Tengo. ¿Alguno de ustedes sabe que cuando prueba VSED durante el tiempo suficiente, comienza a alucinar, sufre delirios y está tan débil que ni siquiera puede caminar correctamente sin sentir que se va a desmayar? También duermes mucho, en las últimas etapas de VSED estás vivo pero mentalmente no estás allí, así que es casi como si en las últimas etapas de tu muerte en realidad no lo estuvieras experimentando. La mayoría de las personas no duran más de 2 semanas con VSED y, por lo general, mueren en dos semanas. El caso donde la persona duró casi tres semanas. Si hubiera leído ese caso, ese hombre realmente tenía acceso a un poco de agua. No estaba completamente sin agua. Estaba lamiendo el agua de las paredes aparentemente porque había agua cayendo por las paredes, también había algo más, pero tuvo acceso al agua. No mucho, pero lo suficiente para mantenerlo en marcha durante tanto tiempo. Creo que también bebió su propia orina. Lo que explicaría por qué duró tanto. La mayoría de las personas no lo hacen, es extremadamente raro. Si te falta fuerza de voluntad entonces esa es una cualidad que te falta. La mayoría de las personas con autismo tienen una fuerza de voluntad muy fuerte. Dudo que alguien no termine VSED porque le faltó fuerza de voluntad. Creo que fracasaría debido a toda la negatividad y el juicio al respecto. A menos que haya pasado casi 2 semanas sin beber o comer, realmente no tiene suficiente experiencia para emitir tal juicio. Si no te gusta lo que digo, está bien. Personalmente, creo que cualquier método de muerte sería imposible para ustedes porque todos siguen aquí después de intentarlo. VSED no es imposible para todos. Es imposible para las personas que no tienen una gran fuerza de voluntad.

oye, documenta tu experiencia, compártela conmigo antes de la tarde, estoy muy interesado en tu experiencia y entiendo completamente lo que dijiste que la gente juzga sin siquiera investigar o probar este método, iwas diagnosed as high functional autism, (i know what you talking about) before all the rest illness

You just lack the willpower autists like me and the OP have.

For the record, I did a 14 day water fast and by the end of it I was weak and lightheaded but it wasn't anything that extreme. What was intense was breaking the fast with oatmeal, I spent days with a horribly inflammed gastrointestinal tract. You have to break the fast with soup or juice

starvation and stop drinking water(dehydratation) on which parts of your body caused pain?

 

[Zeus35]

Hope u succeed. 14 days is too long.

Thank you:-)

That's one way to interpret it. Another might be to think that folks comment out of compassion, not wanting you to experience the sort of pain they believe is associated with VSED. At the end of the day what you do is up to you. But yes, if you don't care for people commenting in a way you don't like, then posting about this thing is not for you. Lastly, for obvious reasons, no one is going to cheer you on.

I don't think many suicide methods offer a peaceful exit. There is a difference between comments asking you not to do something and comments implying your not capable of completing something. This is a pro-choice group so of people cannot respect other people's choices then maybe they need to hop of this forum not me. I post about alot of things, I've even posted about hanging and I can tell you this sort of behaviour didn't occur then. It's just hypocritical. If people cannot support my choice then they shouldn't waste their time commenting. If someone was about the jump of a building would they like to hear "you won't be able to complete it, it's impossible" no they wouldn't. I can post what I like just as I have posted this post.

You've gone 9 days without drinking anything before? Really?

Yes, I was severely depressed. I grew up in foster care. It actually started because I was being bullied by a girl and a few staff in a children's home so I became to nervouse to come out of my bedroom. I was Actually very suicidal as a result of the bullying so I stayed in bed and refused to eat or drink. When your severely depressed you can do alot of things you wouldn't normally do. I don't think it was necessarily intentional in that case. I was 15 I was severely depressed I didn't know what VSED was I didn't know that would kill me anyway.

I've gone six days without eating and drinking. I have friends that do 12 day dry fast. Mind you they are in tropical climates. It is very possible. It wasn't painful for me at all either. I actually felt really fucking good

It's just the first two days I would say. They are the most difficult but afterwards it's actually very peaceful and then you also experience some euphoria :-)

You've gone 9 days without drinking anything before? Really?

I think in that case I was probably too frightened to come out of my room, and depressed. I grew up for just over half of my childhood in foster care or children's homes.

Dehydration feels really fucking good? Your friends didn't experience extreme thirst, dizziness, headaches & eventually

• A temperature of 103 degrees Fahrenheit or higher
• Muscle twitching
• Red, hot, dry skin
• Nausea
• Rapid pulse
• Seizures
• Confusion, altered mental state, slurred speech
• Fainting, loss of consciousness
• Hallucinations, delusions, delirium

?

Have you actually experienced any of this? Or do you just consult Dr Google for everything? Me and CTB have actually tried this method you haven't. Your only speaking from what you've read online not any personal experience. Have you gone 6 days without food and water like ctb or 9 days like me before? Yes it is actually blissful. It's very uncomfortable within the first two days. Afterwards I can say I never felt any hunger or thirst. I've tried hanging and jumping of bridges into rivers. I've cut my wrists and taken overdoses, I've even tried to jump of a motor way bridge although that one was unsuccessful I didn't manage to jump. VSED is amazing in comparison to those methods. It sounds barbaric agreed but sometimes you need to experience something to form your own opinion. If you consult Dr Google again you'll find that some people think the method is peacefuo and others don't. You'll also realise all of not information on VSED is around elderly or terminally ill people. So technically you don't actually know how someone who is younger would feel doing VSED because I don't think there are any studies on that.

They seem to be fine. They just get exhausted after a while. Not as much energy. The most I experienced was dry lips. My lips got really chap. I'm not sure if they do hard dry fast (no shower or contact with water) or not. I was showering.
I wish I would have documented it. You can see other people's experiences on YouTube though. This is just one person.
The first day or two was hard because of hunger pangs but yeah afterwards I felt amazing.
Lol this dude is wild. He's funny though.

These people probably aren't the heat examples to share but they have shorter videos. I didn't want to post hour long videos.

Is a dry fast a fast without both water and food. So VSED? If they're not drinking but eating then they'd be getting some liquid from the food?

I've seen your post few days ago about using Hanging Method and you had posted pictures of Rope and a bottle of Jack Daniels....
How did that fail as hanging is very reliable ..?

Well if it's very reliable alot of people who tried it wouldn't still be here telling how their ctb didn't work. I got the explode head feeling. I don't think I compressed the carotid artery? You also don't know whether I did a full or partial suspension. Hanging doesn't work for everyone. It was agony to I felt.

You just lack the willpower autists like me and the OP have.

For the record, I did a 14 day water fast and by the end of it I was weak and lightheaded but it wasn't anything that extreme. What was intense was breaking the fast with oatmeal, I spent days with a horribly inflammed gastrointestinal tract. You have to break the fast with soup or juice

I agree, unless they're autistic they underestimate how willfull we actually are. When you did your water fast did you eat something too? As you could have got liquid out of your food? I assume you didn't because you spoke of eating oatmeal?

If someone wants to do that and thinks its easy, then good luck to them. I respect that decision.

They put people into comas for VSED in many cases, because like my grandfather, they can suffer greatly from lack of food and water during the final days. So concern for people wanting to do this without medical assistance is warranted.

I don't mind the concern at all it's the "you can't do it, you won't be able to complete it, it's impossible" like who are people who don't know me to tell me what I can and cannot handle?

 

[BigG91]

Thank you:-)

I don't think many suicide methods offer a peaceful exit. There is a difference between comments asking you not to do something and comments implying your not capable of completing something. This is a pro-choice group so of people cannot respect other people's choices then maybe they need to hop of this forum not me. I post about alot of things, I've even posted about hanging and I can tell you this sort of behaviour didn't occur then. It's just hypocritical. If people cannot support my choice then they shouldn't waste their time commenting. If someone was about the jump of a building would they like to hear "you won't be able to complete it, it's impossible" no they wouldn't. I can post what I like just as I have posted this post.

Yes, I was severely depressed. I grew up in foster care. It actually started because I was being bullied by a girl and a few staff in a children's home so I became to nervouse to come out of my bedroom. I was Actually very suicidal as a result of the bullying so I stayed in bed and refused to eat or drink. When your severely depressed you can do alot of things you wouldn't normally do. I don't think it was necessarily intentional in that case. I was 15 I was severely depressed I didn't know what VSED was I didn't know that would kill me anyway.

It's just the first two days I would say. They are the most difficult but afterwards it's actually very peaceful and then you also experience some euphoria :-)

I think in that case I was probably too frightened to come out of my room, and depressed. I grew up for just over half of my childhood in foster care or children's homes.

Have you actually experienced any of this? Or do you just consult Dr Google for everything? Me and CTB have actually tried this method you haven't. Your only speaking from what you've read online not any personal experience. Have you gone 6 days without food and water like ctb or 9 days like me before? Yes it is actually blissful. It's very uncomfortable within the first two days. Afterwards I can say I never felt any hunger or thirst. I've tried hanging and jumping of bridges into rivers. I've cut my wrists and taken overdoses, I've even tried to jump of a motor way bridge although that one was unsuccessful I didn't manage to jump. VSED is amazing in comparison to those methods. It sounds barbaric agreed but sometimes you need to experience something to form your own opinion. If you consult Dr Google again you'll find that some people think the method is peacefuo and others don't. You'll also realise all of not information on VSED is around elderly or terminally ill people. So technically you don't actually know how someone who is younger would feel doing VSED because I don't think there are any studies on that.

Is a dry fast a fast without both water and food. So VSED? If they're not drinking but eating then they'd be getting some liquid from the food?

Well if it's very reliable alot of people who tried it wouldn't still be here telling how their ctb didn't work. I got the explode head feeling. I don't think I compressed the carotid artery? You also don't know whether I did a full or partial suspension. Hanging doesn't work for everyone. It was agony to I felt.

Thank you:-)

I don't think many suicide methods offer a peaceful exit. There is a difference between comments asking you not to do something and comments implying your not capable of completing something. This is a pro-choice group so of people cannot respect other people's choices then maybe they need to hop of this forum not me. I post about alot of things, I've even posted about hanging and I can tell you this sort of behaviour didn't occur then. It's just hypocritical. If people cannot support my choice then they shouldn't waste their time commenting. If someone was about the jump of a building would they like to hear "you won't be able to complete it, it's impossible" no they wouldn't. I can post what I like just as I have posted this post.

Yes, I was severely depressed. I grew up in foster care. It actually started because I was being bullied by a girl and a few staff in a children's home so I became to nervouse to come out of my bedroom. I was Actually very suicidal as a result of the bullying so I stayed in bed and refused to eat or drink. When your severely depressed you can do alot of things you wouldn't normally do. I don't think it was necessarily intentional in that case. I was 15 I was severely depressed I didn't know what VSED was I didn't know that would kill me anyway.

It's just the first two days I would say. They are the most difficult but afterwards it's actually very peaceful and then you also experience some euphoria :-)

I think in that case I was probably too frightened to come out of my room, and depressed. I grew up for just over half of my childhood in foster care or children's homes.

Have you actually experienced any of this? Or do you just consult Dr Google for everything? Me and CTB have actually tried this method you haven't. Your only speaking from what you've read online not any personal experience. Have you gone 6 days without food and water like ctb or 9 days like me before? Yes it is actually blissful. It's very uncomfortable within the first two days. Afterwards I can say I never felt any hunger or thirst. I've tried hanging and jumping of bridges into rivers. I've cut my wrists and taken overdoses, I've even tried to jump of a motor way bridge although that one was unsuccessful I didn't manage to jump. VSED is amazing in comparison to those methods. It sounds barbaric agreed but sometimes you need to experience something to form your own opinion. If you consult Dr Google again you'll find that some people think the method is peacefuo and others don't. You'll also realise all of not information on VSED is around elderly or terminally ill people. So technically you don't actually know how someone who is younger would feel doing VSED because I don't think there are any studies on that.

Is a dry fast a fast without both water and food. So VSED? If they're not drinking but eating then they'd be getting some liquid from the food?

Well if it's very reliable alot of people who tried it wouldn't still be here telling how their ctb didn't work. I got the explode head feeling. I don't think I compressed the carotid artery? You also don't know whether I did a full or partial suspension. Hanging doesn't work for everyone. It was agony to I felt.

I agree, unless they're autistic they underestimate how willfull we actually are. When you did your water fast did you eat something too? As you could have got liquid out of your food? I assume you didn't because you spoke of eating oatmeal?

I don't mind the concern at all it's the "you can't do it, you won't be able to complete it, it's impossible" like who are people who don't know me to tell me what I can and cannot handle?

Head explode is partiaI hanging. I was thinking you tried full suspension hanging.

 

[Zeus35]

I've posted in your prior threads about possible failure. I'm certainly not searching Dr. Google, I'm actually a medical professional. Vsed is very difficult.
The majority of people commenting arent nagging or bullying you, everyone is simply concerned about the amount of prolonged suffering your method will entail.
I would never encourage anyone to ctb and would certainly discourage you from this method
I understand being able to lay in bed with depression and hardly get up to eat or drink, I do it all the time for hours but not days. If I go 12 hrs without drinking, I'm completely parched when I get up.
And I cant help but think about those poor kittens as you eventually get into delirium and suffer hallucinations
If you're dead set and determined on this method, I hope you find peace however it may work out

My foster mom was a senior nurse and my foster dad was a heart surgeon. I know they wouldn't recommend any of the methods people here do. No one has bullied me, I didn't say that. Yes VSED is very difficult I'm not ignorant to that. Although I don't need people repeatedly telling me that. When the same thing is mentioned alot I question whether I am talking to human being or parrots. It gets abit annoying actually like a broken record "yes love I heard you all the first time". I know I have autism but I don't need to hear that all the time, I understand the first time let's not forget I'm high functioning. Those poor kittens will already be well looked after it's all been taken care of. I'm not going to let them die. I adore and love them.

That was probably the issue. I drank a gallon of water a day during my water fast. I never had any issues other than sores on my lips toward the end.

So a water fast is when you just drink water?

If you are you young and healthy you may be able to go 14 days, but it is not like you will die peacefully on day 15.. Eventually your body will start losing the fight whether it takes 20 or 30 days or whatever. Once your body truly starts failing you will experience severe symptoms.

So OP, you may have gone to 9 days but you cannot say for certain what 10, 11, 12, etc. will be like and every day up until the day you pass. From what we know, at some it won't be prety. Ultimately it is your decision but I do think most people speak out against from a point of compassion.

Well I'll just wait and fine out then. I'm also not healthy but I am young.
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We discuss pros and cons of methods. We're pro-choice about suicide, and then we dive into the effectiveness, peacefulness, level of effort, safety(death and not vegetative coma) etc. of methods. We're still human with opinions and concerns.

Sometimes it needs to be done. We have people post they're going to pop a bottle of tylenol or benzos. It's the nature of the site to say hey, the evidence shows that's ineffective or extremely painful. Most if time it's done out of concern.

I get that. It's the "you can't complete it, it's impossible, you'll not be able to finish it" comments I don't like because in reality I know none of you, so how do any of you know what I can or cannot achieve?

I also forgot to say I think you'll get to a point where you wont be responding to people you usually do and someone may call for help, then you'll wake up in a hospital

I have no one. So no one will actually call for help.

 

[VoidDesirer22]

What one person's idea of death being a nightmare is another person's idea of peace

I actually don't think the range is that great. Sure there are preferences, but a lot of it comes down to the unavailability for best methods or what their body could even hold down (drugs).

I only started eating and drinking after 9 days because I was forced to

Kind of a big deal that VSED takes so long and draws so much attention. The PPeH rates methods for reliability as apart of their net score for a reason.

But overall I don't doubt that it is easier for you than others. If the negativity about the method bothers you then... Why? If you trust it enough and have done your own research, go for it. They shouldn't bother you.

 

[Zeus35]

oye, documenta tu experiencia, compártela conmigo antes de la tarde, estoy muy interesado en tu experiencia y entiendo completamente lo que dijiste que la gente juzga sin siquiera investigar o probar este método, iwas diagnosed as high functional autism, (i know what you talking about) before all the rest illness

starvation and stop drinking water(dehydratation) on which parts of your body caused pain?

Oh for God sake the one who continuously asks me questions. Do your own research, dieing people don't really want to spent their last days answering 101 questions. Maybe you'll learn from experience.

Head explode is partiaI hanging. I was thinking you tried full suspension hanging.

Ive tried both but I managed to get down with full aswell. I managed to kick my feet back on the table.

I actually don't think the range is that great. Sure there are preferences, but a lot of it comes down to the unavailability for best methods or what their body could even hold down (drugs).

Kind of a big deal that VSED takes so long and draws so much attention. The PPeH rates methods for reliability as apart of their net score for a reason.

But overall I don't doubt that it is easier for you than others. If the negativity about the method bothers you then... Why? If you trust it enough and have done your own research, go for it. They shouldn't bother you.

I disagree I think it is easier for me than people who have weaker willpowers or family around them. In my case I have no one so no one is actually going to find out. I mean no one will stop me. In that other case I was 15 and in care. So I literally had people around me 24/7

Oh for God sake the one who continuously asks me questions. Do your own research, dieing people don't really want to spent their last days answering 101 questions. Maybe you'll learn from experience.

Ive tried both but I managed to get down with full aswell. I managed to kick my feet back on the table.

I disagree I think it is easier for me than people who have weaker willpowers or family around them. In my case I have no one so no one is actually going to find out. I mean no one will stop me. In that other case I was 15 and in care. So I literally had people around me 24/7

Sorry I misread your question.
Sorry your answer. I need to put my glasses on :-)

 

[its-about-time]

This is a weird post.

- Complain about perceived judgment on the forum
- Brag about how you are so very experienced and know more than anybody about a certain method
- Complain further about judgment regarding willpower, then (best part!!)
- End by telling everyone they don't have what it takes to succeed in ctb because they're still here…. AKA, by judging everyone and mocking their willpower.

Interesting move. Seems quite hypocritical. I don't care how anyone here chooses to die. Good luck to all of them. Whether they truly go for it or are coping with life by being on this forum, it makes no difference to me. I'm not sure why people create such edgy drama here. I got my method information, maybe it's time to leave this site.

 

[BigG91]

Oh for God sake the one who continuously asks me questions. Do your own research, dieing people don't really want to spent their last days answering 101 questions. Maybe you'll learn from experience.

Ive tried both but I managed to get down with full aswell. I managed to kick my feet back on the table.

I disagree I think it is easier for me than people who have weaker willpowers or family around them. In my case I have no one so no one is actually going to find out. I mean no one will stop me. In that other case I was 15 and in care. So I literally had people around me 24/7

Alright. Makes sense ... Anyways this starving method is very much possible... it's practiced in Jainism which is a religion....and it's called Sallekhana... But their process is longer as it's a religious ritual for them rather than suicide ...first they stop food then gradually water too...