Help Sodium Nitrite?

[windingdown]

Here is Philip Nitschke talking about it on a new video from Facebook that is a couple of days old. Here is the short url: https://anon.to/nMIs06

I love the absurd environment in that video, people having great time while music plays and children running in the background, while Nitschke is telling how to killing yourself.

Brilliant video, really helpful re: SN

 

[Wantingpeace]

I have them saved locally, and also set to be sent out. But trust me, my wife knows all about what has happened to me and is currently happening to me, and there will be notes here too. If anyone fails to get the message, she will spend the rest of her life crusading on my behalf. She is about to lose her beloved husband because of this, and after she grieves, she will rampage. I love that woman because she is a fighter and she WILL fight. My children will fight. My story will continue to be told. My death was unnecessary. I was murdered by the medical community and by the government.

Me too. My suffering totally unnessary caused by medical community and then denied. No one can see what happened to me, it isn't visible. But i will go out knowing without a doubt even if not clear to anyone else that I was murdered by big pharma and the Drs.

 

[Wantingpeace]

I can confirm this, the lataxive effect might not be much of a problem. But everybody, when we die, nevermind the way of dying, sphincters stop working and relax, so we all shit and pee in the pants. I don't want my family to find me like this, a horrorful last image about me. So If plan to not be eating 24 hours before, and take some laxatives, so I empty my stomach, the same goes for driking. I think it won't be much of a problem and might even increase the effect of sodium nitrite if I choose this method.

Would the not eating affect the absorption of the anti emetics?

 

[Wantingpeace]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sodium-N...334616?hash=item1ee6734bd8:g:AeYAAOSw3cZbVetf

Just ordered this. This looks correct yes?

 

[windingdown]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sodium-N...334616?hash=item1ee6734bd8:g:AeYAAOSw3cZbVetf

Just ordered this. This looks correct yes?

That looks correct to me. Enough in there to cure whole hoghouses worth of bacon, I reckon :D

I just ordered some from a US seller this morning.

 

[Wantingpeace]

That looks correct to me. Enough in there to cure whole hoghouses worth of bacon, I reckon :D

I just ordered some from a US seller this morning.

Haha!! I just read something my body would be left looking brown!!that would be horrible for family as they would not get to see me.

 

[I’vehadenough]

Pills and poisons sound painful. You have no idea how they will effect you. Rather hang

 

[Ixtab]

Pills and poisons sound painful. You have no idea how they will effect you. Rather hang

I agree!

 

[Arak]

Partly a copy of another post for this thread:

'
What about the mechanism of action ?
One description of symptoms '3-15% - Slight discoloration (eg, pale, gray, blue) of the skin

• 15-20% - Cyanosis, though patients may be relatively asymptomatic

• 25-50% - Headache, dyspnea, lightheadedness (even syncope), weakness, confusion, palpitations, chest pain

• 50-70% - Abnormal cardiac rhythms; altered mental status, delirium, seizures, coma; profound acidosis

• >70% - Usually, death'

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sodium-nitrite.111/ well ... I'd also need to be sure that 'sodium bicarbonate' is not present
I'm just not sure about the symptoms and the mechanism of action, I'll study a bit more.
'httpx://toxnet.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/sis/search/a?dbs+hsdb:@term+@DOCNO+757' replace x
'SIGNS AND SYMPTOMS/ Signs and symptoms of nitrite poisoning include intense cyanosis, nausea, vertigo, vomiting, collapse, spasms of abdominal pain, tachycardia, tachypnea, coma, convulsions and death. Injection and inflammation of gastric and intestinal mucosa are described at autopsy. /Inorganic nitrite salts/'
I'm not sure about the effects on an already compromised CNS ... and time till death ? I'll read more, but I'd want to be very sure before doing this. I'm just reading a few anecdotal reports. I get the feeling that it's at least as bad as sodium cyanide, and less reliable and slower. Too bad I don't have the connections of that Serb war criminal who managed to poison himself with cyanide ...'

'I can see myself calling for 'help' if it is gruesome and takes too long ...

A quote from the web 'I've decided to use sodium azide due to its fast action and almost certain death. Almost went with sodium nitrite but its drawn out and not always certain.'

Another quote '
Even though nitrates are vital to all plant and animal life, overexposure can lead to serious, negative health effects. Nitrates are converted into nitrites by bacteria in our saliva, stomach, and intestines, and it is primarily the nitrites that cause toxicity.

Nitrites oxidize the iron component of red blood cells (hemoglobin), rendering them unable to carry oxygen. The resulting condition is called methemoglobinemia, and the lack of oxygen is the reason behind the characteristic pale to blue-gray color of the skin. The severity of methemoglobinemia is directly proportional to the percentage of red blood cells affected. The higher the percentage, the more serious the symptoms, and the more blue the patient appears.''
'Symptoms of nitrate poisoning can vary depending on the amount and duration of the exposure. Those with very mild methemoglobinemia might not have any symptoms at all, or might appear a little pale and feel tired. Moderate-to-severe poisoning is associated with cyanosis (blueness of the skin), confusion, loss of consciousness, seizures, abnormal heart rhythms, and death'

And time till death, really ?

Another thread: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/can-anyone-give-me-a-short-basic-intro-on-sodium-nitrate.649/

I don't get a good feeling from reading this. Reliability, time till death, seems like a horrible way to die, possible survival ?'

 

[Arak]

The source above mentions seizures. I wonder what causes those ?

What about the dose ? One source mentions 5 gr, but would 10 gr be better or worse ? Higher doses are not always better.

 

[Arak]

What about antiemetics ? Metoclopromide has been recommended, but i don't know where to get in in Europe. Here docs don't hand out drugs like candy. Zofran would be too weak ??
And in addition to my previous post, it seems 10 gr is now recommended per a different thread/forum (?)

 

[gemini25]

I've been doing a little more research on it after reading about it in the PPH. Is it really a peaceful way to die? It's a lot easier to obtain compared to cyanide and sodium azide but it was also rated not as reliable. And from what I've looked up, it sounds like kind of a painful to go. Is this a good method, or should I explore other options?

Thanks

Hi!I just bought a bottle of 100 grams of sodium nitrite,as recommended in the book called peaceful pill hand book,written by Dr. PN in which,among other ways of offing oneself,they mention sodium nitrite,which is not as fast as Nembutal,but is much easier obtainable,much cheaper,and if you're really ready,as effective as Nembutal,it just takes a bit longer!?Good luck,what ever you decide to do!!!

 

[Sayo]

Anyone got any advice ordering cimetidine? I was hoping to avoid alldaychemist mostly due to shipping time. It's not available OTC here.

edit: Seems it's everywhere on eBay but the shipping times are similarly prohibitive due to the regulations here.

edit2: The research into ranitidine isn't amazing but it might be better than nothing. At any rate, I feel more peaceful having ordered the SN, now I just need the antacids and I'll have everything.

 

[Duqu]

I don't know if you anti-emetic (brand name, Zofran) is strong enough. I'd suggest taking it in combo with another, Motilium. You can get it from alldaychemist.com, no script required. Here's info on anti-emetic regimen https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Suicide/Toxification/Antiemetic_regimen . I'm taking 30g just in case. It's most likely not going to be super pleasant, but in such large doses it's probably not intolerable.

@OfficerK said they were taking 40mg metoclopramide which is truly the one that will make the difference. Take it two days prior too (but no the large dose recommended before taking the SN).

 

[OfficerK]

@OfficerK said they were taking 40mg metoclopramide which is truly the one that will make the difference. Take it two days prior too (but no the large dose recommended before taking the SN).

Don't remember when I said that, although you may well be right. My memory has been weak lately. The PPH says 3x10 or 30mg, but 40mg would maybe make sense for tall and/or heavy people.

 

[Duqu]

Don't remember when I said that, although you may well be right. My memory has been weak lately. The PPH says 3x10 or 30mg, but 40mg would maybe make sense for tall and/or heavy people.

I can't find the post now either but you said you were taking zofran (well whatever the generic name was) and meto and someone said the zofran wouldkn't do that trick and I was just pointing out you said you were taking meto too. I think the PPeH recommends 40mg anyway I don't recall exactly I haven't read it recently (like in the last week lol my memory sucks too) and I think they recommended a regular dose for 2 days prior too.

 

[Arak]

More than a double post, too many of these threads '
A few points that makes this look less pretty ... I know some of this SN stuff is all over the forum. I have taken a few liberties with sources. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Basically, sodium nitrate poisoning is poisoning by nitrite poisoning.

https://www.symptoma.com/en/info/nitrite-poisoning

Lack of oxygen is the cause of death.

https://www.spinalcord.com/blog/what-happens-after-a-lack-of-oxygen-to-the-brain

I guess this is about complete oxygen deprivation.

Between 30-180 seconds of oxygen deprivation, you may lose consciousness.

• At the one-minute mark, brain cells begin dying.
  
  
• At three minutes, neurons suffer more extensive damage, and lasting brain damage becomes more likely.
  
  
• At five minutes, death becomes imminent.
  
  
• At 10 minutes, even if the brain remains alive, a coma and lasting brain damage are almost inevitable.
  
  
• At 15 minutes, survival becomes nearly impossible.

Several: https://toxnet.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/sis/search2/f?./temp/~PsiZ8r:3


Onset of action appears not to be quick, not always !

Possibly liver, kidney damage. Others ? Cause: hypoxia or nitrite poisoning.

ExitActBC.pdf

Excerpt '

Absorbtion and toxicity of the salt can be enhanced by raising the gastric pH by taking some sodium bicarbonate prior to the nitrite drink. ' True or not ?


Sodium azide, mostly unrelatedby in the same pdf: 'is more toxic that nitrite, and must be handled with more care. It finds use as a laboratory bacteriostatic and its past use in car airbags mean that it can be readily sourced on the internet with few restriction in its purchase. A few grams of azide dissolved in water when drunk will bring about rapid death. The salt causes cellular death by binding to cytochrome enzyme; cells with the highest oxygen needs are most vulnerable (eg heart and brain). ''

And as a concluding note, a lot will work if you are in a very remote area and noone will come to your aid for a long time.

 

[Sandy]

But I saw it scores quite poor in the reliability rate. So that means it can fail even if you did everything right? Why?..

 

[OfficerK]

But I saw it scores quite poor in the reliability rate. So that means it can fail even if you did everything right? Why?..

It's hard to say exactly what goes into the ratings, but we've been speculating that the fact that it's so easily reversible probably has something to do with the relatively low score of 7/10.

 

[gemini25]

It's hard to say exactly what goes into the ratings, but we've been speculating that the fact that it's so easily reversible probably has something to do with the relatively low score of 7/10.

It has relatively low score,because it takes much longer than Nembutal,but if you're determined enough,it will do the job,relatively painlessly!!!

 

[OfficerK]

It has relatively low score,because it takes much longer than Nembutal,but if you're determined enough,it will do the job,relatively painlessly!!!

The 7/10 score is what it scores in reliability - not the overall score.

 

[Sandy]

It's hard to say exactly what goes into the ratings, but we've been speculating that the fact that it's so easily reversible probably has something to do with the relatively low score of 7/10.

I understand. But N is also reversible if a person is found before hypoxia accures. And from what I have read in pph (peacful pill) sodium nitrite also works very quickly. Anyhow thanks and I will be very grateful if you know anything about it.

 

[Duqu]

The 7/10 score is what it scores in reliability - not the overall score.

Yeah and the only reason it got 7 is because if someone finds you and they realize you OD'd on SN you can be "saved" by the cure for methemoglobinemia which is methylene blue. Just inject into IV and it can take you back from the brink of death I've heard.

 

[OfficerK]

Yeah and the only reason it got 7 is because if someone finds you and they realize you OD'd on SN you can be "saved" by the cure for methemoglobinemia which is methylene blue. Just inject into IV and it can take you back from the brink of death I've heard.

Well, AFAIK we don't know for sure if that's the reason.

 

[jizz676]

can this method be painful doing it without errors? somebody survived?

 

[Sayo]

can this method be painful doing it without errors? somebody survived?

Yes, people have survived and posted here. (Use the right anti emetics!) There are headaches before you pass out and maybe vomiting. I think it's unlikely to be really painless.

 

[Voldmort]

maybe not N, but there's other chemicals that a chemist would have access to and knowledge about that the general population doesnt, that'd provide a better death, I would think. *shrug* maybe not

it's not like that. few substances cause painless death. one of them would be HCN, but it may be that the chemist has access to it.

 

[jizz676]

is this ok?
https://www.ebay.it/itm/Sodium-Nitr...hash=item214948c6ef:m:myPLwXPKwzs9RjdjOsIgaOQ
The sodium nitrite will be sent in a double resealable snap plastic bag and sent in a strong Jiffy bag.

 

[Arak]

@Voldmort,

I'm not going to read all the SN threads right now ...

Pain tends to be dismissed with this method, but you're saying there is pain involved ? I just googled, and aside form headaches there was a reference about abdominal pain. I wonder where ...

Nitscheke states it's peaceful ? He probably recommends an OTC painkiller. What if those don't work ? What about an opiate ?

Well, you have good reasons not to appreciate humanity. At the core, we are a bunch of primitive idiots.

 

[Voldmort]

@Voldmort,

I'm not going to read all the SN threads right now ...

Pain tends to be dismissed with this method, but you're saying there is pain involved ? I just googled, and aside form headaches there was a reference about abdominal pain. I wonder where ...

Nitscheke states it's peaceful ? He probably recommends an OTC painkiller. What if those don't work ? What about an opiate ?

Well, you have good reasons not to appreciate humanity. At the core, we are a bunch of primitive idiots.

Hello
user who tried sn without using antiemetics or benzos reported stomach pain and dizziness. he vomited everything and went to the hospital.
another post, a news in fact, of a man who ingested 22g of sn, the man called 5 min to the emergency, which made me think he did not resist the pain and whatever it feels like to this method, but I think these things happen when you do not do the method as recommended.
I do not have a benzodiazepine, so I'm afraid of feeling pain, but I want to be able to handle it on a weak drug at the moment.

I do not know what OTC is and I do not even know about drugs like you asked, sorry
the book says death in 45 minutes, but the person fell asleep in 15 minutes with benzos.