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Mooseanonsky

Mooseanonsky

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Apr 13, 2018
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I've been doing a little more research on it after reading about it in the PPH. Is it really a peaceful way to die? It's a lot easier to obtain compared to cyanide and sodium azide but it was also rated not as reliable. And from what I've looked up, it sounds like kind of a painful to go. Is this a good method, or should I explore other options?

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Aity4883

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Explore other options.
 
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Sonnenblume

Sonnenblume

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@Aity4883 is it really that bad?
 
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Mooseanonsky

Mooseanonsky

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I don't think I have any other options... I guess I'm just gonna have to endure the pain. It'll be better than living anyway. Although I'm not sure how to obtain any anti emetics seeing how I can't go to a doctor and online pharmacies are out of the question because I don't have bitcoins and neither do I trust them with my bank account info. I wonder if I'll be fine without them... Then again I don't wanna risk screwing this up and I end up living with severe pain. Sigh.
 
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back-to-the-future99

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If you have the money do a helium hood kit which is likely less painful.
 
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Mooseanonsky

Mooseanonsky

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If you have the money do a helium hood kit which is likely less painful.
I don't know, I would, but I'm not sure how I would go about obtaining that stuff. I don't have a car, can't drive, and I think I'd be too dumb to set it all up even with the clearest instructions. But I did consider that method first, with nitrogen instead though
 
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back-to-the-future99

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Apr 27, 2018
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I don't know, I would, but I'm not sure how I would go about obtaining that stuff. I don't have a car, can't drive, and I think I'd be too dumb to set it all up even with the clearest instructions. But I did consider that method first, with nitrogen instead though
PM me and I can help you.
 
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OfficerK

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May 6, 2018
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I'm considering this option. However, I don't have access to metoclopramide. Would meclizine antiemetics be sufficient to prevent vomiting?
 
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wanttodie

wanttodie

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Apr 19, 2018
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I'm considering this option but don,t know if i can gt it in canada
 
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OfficerK

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May 6, 2018
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I'm considering this option but don,t know if i can gt it in canada
You probably can as it's quite commonly used in food production. If not you could order it from abroad.
 
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ion900

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May 4, 2018
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it will be terrible to die this way. you would probably feel less pain ripping all your nails out. do you guys think it would be more or less painful than breaking your femur?
 
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Sonnenblume

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Why does The Peaceful Pill Handbook claim it's relatively peaceful then?
 
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Sonnenblume

Sonnenblume

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That's silly, they aren't going to sell something they know is a horrible death as a pro-choice method. Otherwise they wouldn't bother with N, when there's plenty of readily available painful shit to off yourself with.
 
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Sonnenblume

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I don't think cyanide is, there's plenty of cases to research on that one. Most of the bad shit happens after the person is already out, unless they didn't take a high enough dose.
 
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ion900

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May 4, 2018
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I personally don't believe it and would like to see that research. Idk maybe you're right. Maybe I'll consume some, then if it starts to hurt I'll pull the trigger.
 
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Sonnenblume

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The pain factor is highly dose dependent from from what I understand. If I have time I'll gather some research on all 3 and post it here.

Personally, I could never use a gun, that scares me way more than pain.
 
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ion900

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May 4, 2018
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cool, why does it scare you, just cuz? or the possibility of blowing face off or somehow surviving and being worse off? There is also the possibility you throw up the sodium nitrite or something
 
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There are these things called anti-emetics, they'll prevent vomiting. If you're gonna take cyanide, you definitely need one. Reglan is the best. Probably better to take an anti-emetic with any kind of overdose. I'd be afraid of surviving or of accidentally hurting someone else with the gun.
 
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OfficerK

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Sonnenblume

Sonnenblume

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Really great, informative video. Thanks.

Keep in mind, the salts are relatively painless methods. But they are still far from pleasant like Nembutal. But, it's better than nothing.
 
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OfficerK

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May 6, 2018
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Keep in mind, the salts are relatively painless methods. But they are still far from pleasant like Nembutal. But, it's better than nothing.
30 minutes of potential physical agony > 30+ years of almost guaranteed mental agony.
 
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ion900

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May 4, 2018
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30 minutes of potential physical agony > 30+ years of almost guaranteed mental agony.
try introducing stressful things into your life. it will force you to become an optimist if you do accomplish. working out in a gym, streetgame, other challenges r good for this
 
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dangier_to_myself

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Apr 10, 2018
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I don't think I have any other options... I guess I'm just gonna have to endure the pain. It'll be better than living anyway. Although I'm not sure how to obtain any anti emetics seeing how I can't go to a doctor and online pharmacies are out of the question because I don't have bitcoins and neither do I trust them with my bank account info. I wonder if I'll be fine without them... Then again I don't wanna risk screwing this up and I end up living with severe pain. Sigh.
Listen. If you don't take anti-emetics beforehand it is pretty much 100% certain you will throw up and survive. And if you survive sodium nitrite poisoning, you may well spend the rest of your life in a hospital with multiple organ failures, blindness, and any level of brain damage. At least get an over-the-counter anti-emetic like emetrol, though that may not accomplish anything. As for the pain, others in this community have suggested taking incarvillea sinenis, which apparently has been found in some studies to have analgesic properties comparable to morphine. And I've just learnt of something called kratom, which is legal in some but not all states.
 
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OfficerK

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May 6, 2018
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So, I might go through with this within a week or two and I would like to get some feedback on my setup.

I intend to use olanzapine as my anti-emetic. I'm not entirely sure what dosage I should take - is 4x10mg as with metoclopramide good enough?

As for painkillers I am currently only in possession of basic OTC stuff like paracetamol and ibuprofen. I might be able to get oxycontin, but I don't know for sure yet. Is paracetamol good enough to get through the process?

I'm about 193 cm tall and I weigh 90 kg (6'4, 200lb). The PPH recommends that I take 10g mixed with water. However, considering my size I feel like I should probably go with 15g or even more.

I'm still not 100% on this method. It's possible that i'll try to order some N from AV, even though I highly doubt that it would make it through my country's customs.
 
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everwhatever

everwhatever

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May 15, 2018
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My friend the chemist killed himself so, I guess he knew what shit will kill him less painfully

And look, it really doesn't look so terrible

Symptoms are proportional to the fraction of methemoglobin. A normal methemoglobin fraction is about 1% (range, 0-3%). Symptoms associated with higher levels of methemoglobin are as follows:

  • 3-15% - Slight discoloration (eg, pale, gray, blue) of the skin
  • 15-20% - Cyanosis, though patients may be relatively asymptomatic
  • 25-50% - Headache, dyspnea, lightheadedness (even syncope), weakness, confusion, palpitations, chest pain
  • 50-70% - Abnormal cardiac rhythms; altered mental status, delirium, seizures, coma; profound acidosis
  • >70% - Usually, death
I don't like chest pain and seizures but I think it's tolerable
 
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Sonnenblume

Sonnenblume

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Apr 6, 2018
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So, I might go through with this within a week or two and I would like to get some feedback on my setup.

I intend to use olanzapine as my anti-emetic. I'm not entirely sure what dosage I should take - is 4x10mg as with metoclopramide good enough?

As for painkillers I am currently only in possession of basic OTC stuff like paracetamol and ibuprofen. I might be able to get oxycontin, but I don't know for sure yet. Is paracetamol good enough to get through the process?

I'm about 193 cm tall and I weigh 90 kg (6'4, 200lb). The PPH recommends that I take 10g mixed with water. However, considering my size I feel like I should probably go with 15g or even more.

I'm still not 100% on this method. It's possible that i'll try to order some N from AV, even though I highly doubt that it would make it through my country's customs.

I don't know if you anti-emetic (brand name, Zofran) is strong enough. I'd suggest taking it in combo with another, Motilium. You can get it from alldaychemist.com, no script required. Here's info on anti-emetic regimen https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Suicide/Toxification/Antiemetic_regimen . I'm taking 30g just in case. It's most likely not going to be super pleasant, but in such large doses it's probably not intolerable.
 
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Sonnenblume

Sonnenblume

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Apr 6, 2018
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My friend the chemist killed himself so, I guess he knew what shit will kill him less painfully

And look, it really doesn't look so terrible

Symptoms are proportional to the fraction of methemoglobin. A normal methemoglobin fraction is about 1% (range, 0-3%). Symptoms associated with higher levels of methemoglobin are as follows:

  • 3-15% - Slight discoloration (eg, pale, gray, blue) of the skin
  • 15-20% - Cyanosis, though patients may be relatively asymptomatic
  • 25-50% - Headache, dyspnea, lightheadedness (even syncope), weakness, confusion, palpitations, chest pain
  • 50-70% - Abnormal cardiac rhythms; altered mental status, delirium, seizures, coma; profound acidosis
  • >70% - Usually, death
I don't like chest pain and seizures but I think it's tolerable

Your chemist friend killed himself with sodium nitrite? I'm a little surprised, I'd think a chemist would have better means...
 
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everwhatever

everwhatever

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Your chemist friend killed himself with sodium nitrite? I'm a little surprised, I'd think a chemist would have better means...
You mean N or something like that? idk
 
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