Teikoku

Teikoku

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Mar 18, 2023
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We seem to forget the way we used to interact before everyone got these devices.

 
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Valky

Valky

Petulant Child
Apr 4, 2023
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It doesn't really matter to me since I am introverted so I wouldn't talk anyways lmao. But it is sad. I wish it was easier to connect with people. Smartphones at least seem to make it easier.
 
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Hollowman

Empty
Dec 14, 2021
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I miss the days before all the tech, much better times.
 
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Roseate

Arcanist
Mar 24, 2021
474
I miss the days before all the tech, much better times.
I mean, can you imagine not having tech in this day and age? I mean before we used to play outside (I am young but I lived in my home country with no technology for a short period of my life), we used to play outside but have you seen the news and the state of this world especially the US? Going outside is more unsafe than being on your phones but I do miss the days when going outside was the norm.
 
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Pluto

Meowing to go out
Dec 27, 2020
4,104
In practice, it meant lower quantity but higher quality. No internet 'likes' but genuine human connections. It was terrible.
 
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TransilvanianHunger

Grave with a view...
Jan 22, 2023
358
have you seen the news and the state of this world especially the US? Going outside is more unsafe than being on your phones but I do miss the days when going outside was the norm.
The world is not worse off today than it was back in the 80s, 90s, or even the 2000s. There was danger back then just as there is now, but we didn't have news outlets and social media obsessing over every incident and random crime that took place. Most people wouldn't know about such events unless they were particularly noteworthy or happened in their area.

The current fear of going outside, interacting with strangers, or letting kids play outside is 95% (social)-media-induced paranoia. People are growing ever more isolated and scared of others, constantly retreating into the "safety" of artificial digital environments. The world itself is not any more dangerous today than it was 30 or 40 years ago.
 
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Roseate

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Mar 24, 2021
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The world is not worse off today than it was back in the 80s, 90s, or even the 2000s. There was danger back then just as there is now, but we didn't have news outlets and social media obsessing over every incident and random crime that took place. Most people wouldn't know about such events unless they were particularly noteworthy or happened in their area.

The current fear of going outside, interacting with strangers, or letting kids play outside is 95% (social)-media-induced paranoia. People are growing ever more isolated and scared of others, constantly retreating into the "safety" of artificial digital environments. The world itself is not any more dangerous today than it was 30 or 40 years ago.
Yeah I'm going to have to disagree with you there because I've been obsessively watching the new for the past couple of years and lately people are getting killed for more dumb reasons more often. At least in the US and I'm only speaking on that. And there have been a lot of mass shootings this year alone and we're not even half way through the year. But to some extent you are right. It's not the news putting fear, there are just people who are not fully there out there hurting people, trigger happy and ready to hurt for the smallest reasons. It's better to be safe than sorry. I don't feel technology is to blame for everything. Everyday parents send their kids to school, they are afraid. It is not the news putting fear. The fear exist because things have gotten more out of control this past couple of years. Also 5 percent is way too much to gamble your life on especially nowadays.
 
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borderline-feline

Constantly Sleepy Catgirl
Dec 28, 2022
644
People weren't talking to random strangers prior to smartphones because that's a weird thing to do. No one wants a stranger on the bus to start talking to them. This whole concept of technology making people less social is demonstrably false. People with these ridiculous stances are also quick to forget that technology brings people together.
 
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Teikoku

Teikoku

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Mar 18, 2023
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People weren't talking to random strangers prior to smartphones because that's a weird thing to do. No one wants a stranger on the bus to start talking to them. This whole concept of technology making people less social is demonstrably false. People with these ridiculous stances are also quick to forget that technology brings people together.
It's very normal for people travelling by bus who are unfamiliar with the area to ask for directions and often people will respond and a conversation will start from there. Many people will be genuinely interested to know why you're visiting their city and they will often give great local advice.

There is the other situation which is when somebody randomly starts a conversation for no reason. This can definitely be uncomfortable... but despite this fact, many of us who were around in the 80s and 90s realise how much better the world was back then even when including these type of clumsy interactions, life was way better before everyone disappeared into their phones.

You're misunderstanding the point of this video. It's not saying technology is bad. I come from a time where it was a real effort to make a phone call. Rotary phones were incredibly inconvenient, it would take about 30 seconds to just dial a number.

The convenience of being able to do things quickly with smartphones is wonderful but you have to be naive to think that there are no negatives associated with this technology and the agenda which is slowly becoming clear to most people who have critical thinking skills.
 
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borderline-feline

Constantly Sleepy Catgirl
Dec 28, 2022
644
There is the other situation which is when somebody randomly starts a conversation for no reason. This can definitely be uncomfortable... but despite this fact, many of us who were around in the 80s and 90s realise how much better the world was back then even when including these type of clumsy interactions, life was way better before everyone disappeared into their phones.

You're misunderstanding the point of this video. It's not saying technology is bad. I come from a time where it was a real effort to make a phone call. Rotary phones were incredibly inconvenient, it would take about 30 seconds to just dial a number.

The convenience of being able to do things quickly with smartphones is wonderful but you have to be naive to think that there are no negatives associated with this technology and the agenda which is slowly becoming clear to most people who have critical thinking skills.
Those clumsy interactions are just creepy. Most people want to be left alone and don't want some random stranger to start talking to them.

I don't know what "agenda" you're talking about. Smartphones make meaningful interactions far easier; that's clear to anyone with critical thinking skills.
 
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whatevs

Mining for copium in the weirdest places.
Jan 15, 2022
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Those clumsy interactions are just creepy. Most people want to be left alone and don't want some random stranger to start talking to them.

I don't know what "agenda" you're talking about. Smartphones make meaningful interactions far easier; that's clear to anyone with critical thinking skills.
If you see no "agenda" then you aren't thinking but indulging in normalcy bias. Ability to notice patterns and intention is part of the ability to reason.
 
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borderline-feline

Constantly Sleepy Catgirl
Dec 28, 2022
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If you see no "agenda" then you aren't thinking but indulging in normalcy bias. Ability to notice patterns and intention is part of the ability to reason.
That's awfully accusatory. I don't know what agenda is being talked about, and you're not the one I asked.
 
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unnormal9

unnormal9

SOLDIER T.
Apr 12, 2023
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If you see no "agenda" then you aren't thinking but indulging in normalcy bias. Ability to notice patterns and intention is part of the ability to reason.
Wouldn't waste my time with that thing.
 
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chocolatebar

Paragon
Jul 11, 2021
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I don't know what "agenda" you're talking about. Smartphones make meaningful interactions far easier; that's clear to anyone with critical thinking skills.
They probably mean making people gradually more isolated and dependent on smartphones, while manipulating content and, consequently, opinions.
 
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Message In A Bottle

Message In A Bottle

šŸ“œ Just me, myself, and I
Apr 1, 2022
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They probably mean making people gradually more isolated and dependent on smartphones, while manipulating content and, consequently, opinions.
Having more surveillance over you as well.
 
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hag

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Mar 29, 2023
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People weren't talking to random strangers prior to smartphones because that's a weird thing to do. No one wants a stranger on the bus to start talking to them. This whole concept of technology making people less social is demonstrably false. People with these ridiculous stances are also quick to forget that technology brings people together.

That wasn't my experience. I can remember from the time I was quite little and through my young adulthood not only having conversations with strangers on buses and trains, and at bus/train stops, but watching/listening to conversations that others were having. I think it was because it was a way to pass the time, which was otherwise quite boring.

I agree with you that technology can, in some ways, bring people together, but on the whole, based on recent studies, I think it's causing people to become much less social. I began working in technology in the 70s, and actually feel kind of guilty about this whole thing lol.
 
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borderline-feline

Constantly Sleepy Catgirl
Dec 28, 2022
644
Wouldn't waste my time with that thing.
Go fuck yourself, dickhead.
That wasn't my experience. I can remember from the time I was quite little and through my young adulthood not only having conversations with strangers on buses and trains, and at bus/train stops, but watching/listening to conversations that others were having. I think it was because it was a way to pass the time, which was otherwise quite boring.

I agree with you that technology can, in some ways, bring people together, but on the whole, based on recent studies, I think it's causing people to become much less social. I began working in technology in the 70s, and actually feel kind of guilty about this whole thing lol.
There's no need to feel guilty. To be honest, if someone I didn't know tried coming up and talking to me, then I would feel extremely uncomfortable. I wouldn't even acknowledge their existence; I'd just walk away while holding my purse close.
 
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Teikoku

Teikoku

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Mar 18, 2023
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Those clumsy interactions are just creepy. Most people want to be left alone and don't want some random stranger to start talking to them.

I don't know what "agenda" you're talking about. Smartphones make meaningful interactions far easier; that's clear to anyone with critical thinking skills.
Did you know that the iPhone takes an infra red picture of you every 5 seconds. That's a lot creepier than the village idiot trying to start a conversation with you.


The SMART in smartphone (and smart TV, smart washing machine, smart car etc..) stands for Secret Military Armaments in Residential Technology. It's military technology designed to enslave you.

In the future there won't be phones, people will have a chip implanted because it's so much more convenient. At that point you are no longer human but a hybrid connected to the internet of things, just another network device with an IP address, which can be easily controlled and hacked.
 
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borderline-feline

Constantly Sleepy Catgirl
Dec 28, 2022
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Did you know that the iPhone takes an infra red picture of you every 5 seconds. That's a lot creepier than the village idiot trying to start a conversation with you.


The SMART in smartphone (and smart TV, smart washing machine, smart car etc..) stands for Secret Military Armaments in Residential Technology. It's military technology designed to enslave you.

In the future there won't be phones, people will have a chip implanted because it's so much more convenient. At that point you are no longer human but a hybrid connected to the internet of things, just another network device with an IP address, which can be easily controlled and hacked.
You're just an insane conspiracy theorist.
 
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Rocinante

My name is Lucifer, please take my hand
Aug 26, 2022
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They sent and received letters by pigeon
 
OceanBlue

OceanBlue

Feminist
Jun 13, 2021
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People weren't talking to random strangers prior to smartphones because that's a weird thing to do. No one wants a stranger on the bus to start talking to them. This whole concept of technology making people less social is demonstrably false. People with these ridiculous stances are also quick to forget that technology brings people together.

Agreed, life without internet would be so much worse, I would have never found my community or learned about so many things from other unfamous people. I lived before mobile phones, and what.. it made life more inconvenient, you'd arrange a meeting spot beforehand and couldn't tell people if you're late or something happened.

It's very normal for people travelling by bus who are unfamiliar with the area to ask for directions and often people will respond and a conversation will start from there. Many people will be genuinely interested to know why you're visiting their city and they will often give great local advice.
You can still do that, even in smartphone era, no one was into talking on the bus with strangers in the 90s.

but despite this fact, many of us who were around in the 80s and 90s realise how much better the world was back then even when including these type of clumsy interactions, life was way better before everyone disappeared into their phones.
Nostalgia is always an illusion, the world was not better and phones opened up another world to disappear into, often more understanding and welcoming than strangers on the bus.
 
feels_like_rain

feels_like_rain

Goodbye to everything I thought I knew
Sep 29, 2021
74
Only one person really ever talked my ear off on the bus, and she was talking about religion the whole time. I kept trying to change the subject to my cat šŸ˜‚
I usually have my earbuds in, but that time i hadn't put them on yet, and she just started talking right away. If THAT happens again i'm going to make SURE to steer the subject back to my cat, lol
 

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