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underthesea

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Dec 18, 2019
65
MMXX- dawn of the New Year! Holidays are over and my long awaited date approaches, night of the 3rd. I am fairly new to the forum and did not get a chance to get acquianted with many.

Without divulging my location, it is early morn here and I watched my 3rd last sunrise from my balcony. I am lucky that I get to watch both sunrise and sunset right from my balcony- have almost 225 deg view. I will be spending the next 2 days at the beach- where else (see my chosen name for this site)?! Everything is ready; I am at peace as I have reflected upon my life in the last month, during the holidays. My decision was made over many years of contemplation (6 yrs), not impulsively. So, I am ready.

I thank the moderators for letting me join this site, and I thank everyone who took the time to respond to my questions on my "N vs Nitrogen, which to use?" thread. I have had direct chats with some of you and I enjoyed our conversations, although it was for a very brief period. I thank everyone who read my various posts on other threads and responded.

However, I am saddened to see so many young people on this site. I am for right to choose, and am not the kind of person to ever impose my views or beliefs on others. But I do wish the younger people would take a closer look at their issues and give life a chance. I have never had any family or friends who offered any kind of support, even though I have excelled in everything I undertook in life. No matter how perfect I was, it was never enough to satisfy the people I met. It was tremendously stressful and disheartening. I often wondered why I was doing anything if no one cared. But in spite of many obstacles, I acheieved a lot all on my own. I look back at my younger self, the age of many posters here, and I see that I knew very little back then compared to what I know now about life. I am 60 yrs old, I see a lot of things I could have handled differently, if I just had a right mentor or someone who would have given me the right guidance. I have a few regrets about some decisions I made, which had I chosen a different path would have altered my life. But even without that, I had 60 yrs to experience and explore the world. I had a successful career, in spite of many hurdles. I have traveled all over the world, I have lived all over in the USA, in various places which allowed me to see life from other peoples' different perpectives. I have climbed 14,000 ft mountains, and dove 150 ft, the deepest allowed in recreation diving with one O2 tank. I swam with sharks, stingrays... you name it. So I have been lucky to see incredible sights in my life and have incredible experiences even though it wasn't easy. Every day was a struggle. But I have done it all and there is nothing left to do anymore, so it is time for me to say adieu in my own way.

I wish I could help some of the young kids here. I see that the society has failed the young- failed to offer them support, guidance and protection they need, and it saddens me tremendously. I dont have much time left but if any of the younger posters have any questions about how to overcome and go on, I am happy to answer them tonight when I return home.

I wish the young could see past what is brainwashed into us as to what makes one succesful or what is important in life. If you see past that, you might find the answers you seek. I spent most years in a big city amongst highly competitive and very successful people (success as defined by the society). Everything was measured by which Ivy league school one went to (I didn't), how much money you made, where do you vacation, how many homes and cars you have etc. One gets caught up with that and it diminishes life because no amount of money, power, prestige is enough. When I quit, left the big city and moved to the mountains and started hiking, quite late in my life, that is when I had an epiphany! Nature is the only true thing left on this Earth. Backpacking and hiking and seeing how people lived simply, in the mountains or the heartlands, and enjoyed their life was an awakening. I have always been non materialistic, hated owning stuff, but hiking in the mountains gave me clarity, although it came at a very late stage and was bit too late.

The point I am making to the young people here is that what you see on TV, Instagram etc is not necessarily the life- material things and instant gratification required to live a simple but happy life. There are also lot of vocations out there that will pay the bills, maybe won't make you rich, but will still enable one to have a happy life. It is all in the perspective. The less stressful jobs you take, maybe it won't pay you 6 figure salary, but might still enable you to lead a full life.

And no, one does not need college degree to be successful. Lot of entrepreuners dropped out of college- Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, many more. I personally know a woman who started as a secretary at a bank and over years made it as a Managing Director. I can tell you it wasn't easy for her. I know a guy who started as a car salesman and now owns his own car dealership. I know a woman, who I worked with, who quit her high paying job and went to art school, then got various low paying jobs at Sotheby's etc and now owns her own art gallery. Lot of successful CEO's, owners of businesses etc started with nothing and worked their way up. I can give you numerous examples. It really is about perseverance. Even I didn't see that when I was young and only saw all these succesful, beautiful people and believed that was the way it is supposed to be, especially since everyone I knew kept pounding it in my head. As a result, I made it harder for myself in many ways by constantly thinking I was a failure.

Having lived all over the USA, from coast to coast, in the heartland and in the moutains , I have seen people in all kinds of jobs. Here is one truth- only a few people are lucky enough to pursue professions they are passionate about where it doesn't feel like it is work. Most people get jobs to pay bills and support their families. IF you keep looking for Nirvana, you may never find it. I myself ended up in a job that paid a ton of money but was not my passion and I was miserable, even though I excelled in it. I hated the office politics and networking, which I was terrible at managing. But I used the money to pursue things that I was passionate about. I am not saying one has to make a ton of money. I have met Real Estate agents who wanted to be writers when they were young, but of course being successful as a writer is extremely difficult. So they got a job that paid them to support themselves, have a family and kids and they lead a perfectly happy life. I have seen people in various vocations- Nurses, teachers, construction workers, plumbers, chefs, bakery owners...you name it, who wanted to be muscians, painters, pro athletes, doctors or something else. One doesn't always get what one wants in life, but one can find a compromise that will allow at least a reasonable chance at experiencing life instead of calling it quits at 18, 20, 30 or even 40. That is such a young age, and there is a lot to see in the world and many lessons to learn in life. Einstein said when you stop learning then you are dead, I am paraphrasing. In my life, with all my struggles, I still focused on learning one new thing every year. It could be something quite simple but something I knew nothing about. Over years, I ended up learning a lot and now people who meet me are always amazed at how much I know about various things. It also proved to be something that distracted me from the daily struggles, a goal to fulfill every year so to speak.

I don't want to sound preachy. It is not my intention. It is hard to convey tone sometimes in writing vs. in person. I just wish some of the younger people perhaps try and find counselers, a friend, maybe a family member who cares. I know, from personal experience, that it is not always possible and I had to find inner fortitude and confidence to prevail on my own. It is not easy, in fact it is damn hard! But no one said life was easy or fair. That is my 2 cents worth!

Anyway, I thank everyone on this forum and the mods. I don't know how often I can log in between now and night of the 3rd. I plan to enjoy my last 3 days on this Earth without negative thoughts. I would have posted my Goodbye note I wrote to the world, but it has some content that might reveal my location, I would have to edit it. I don't want some busybody foiling my attempt. Plus, I don't think anyone would be interested! anyways LOL! It is a neutral note as I do not wish to depart spewing hate or sad cliches. It is unproductive at this point. People who know me already know the reason why, no need to belabor the point.

IF I don't log on by morn of the 4th, I am star dust!

I wish you all goodluck, and may your remaining days, years on this Earth be peaceful and happy.
 
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I am sending you love and peace and we are here should you want to talk. Know you aren't alone. :heart:
 
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Carina

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Dec 22, 2019
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I will only say I hope you find what your looking for in the next few days.

We will be here though if you decide to talk up to the point. You're definitely not alone. Nothing else, you can even just view this thread if you wanted. Whatever you decide.


Star dust. Come from stars, return to stars. I don't know if you find that calming, but such a thought is to me.
 
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Aug 10, 2019
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Love and peace to you. ❤❤❤
We are here anytime you need.
 
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DoNotLet2

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Oct 14, 2019
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You're so wise... Well farewell I hope the other side will be peaceful for you <3
 
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All the best for you and a peaceful journey.
 
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Mloureiro

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Oct 7, 2019
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MMXX- dawn of the New Year! Holidays are over and my long awaited date approaches, night of the 3rd. I am fairly new to the forum and did not get a chance to get acquianted with many.

Without divulging my location, it is early morn here and I watched my 3rd last sunrise from my balcony. I am lucky that I get to watch both sunrise and sunset right from my balcony- have almost 225 deg view. I will be spending the next 2 days at the beach- where else (see my chosen name for this site)?! Everything is ready; I am at peace as I have reflected upon my life in the last month, during the holidays. My decision was made over many years of contemplation (6 yrs), not impulsively. So, I am ready.

I thank the moderators for letting me join this site, and I thank everyone who took the time to respond to my questions on my "N vs Nitrogen, which to use?" thread. I have had direct chats with some of you and I enjoyed our conversations, although it was for a very brief period. I thank everyone who read my various posts on other threads and responded.

However, I am saddened to see so many young people on this site. I am for right to choose, and am not the kind of person to ever impose my views or beliefs on others. But I do wish the younger people would take a closer look at their issues and give life a chance. I have never had any family or friends who offered any kind of support, even though I have excelled in everything I undertook in life. No matter how perfect I was, it was never enough to satisfy the people I met. It was tremendously stressful and disheartening. I often wondered why I was doing anything if no one cared. But in spite of many obstacles, I acheieved a lot all on my own. I look back at my younger self, the age of many posters here, and I see that I knew very little back then compared to what I know now about life. I am 60 yrs old, I see a lot of things I could have handled differently, if I just had a right mentor or someone who would have given me the right guidance. I have a few regrets about some decisions I made, which had I chosen a different path would have altered my life. But even without that, I had 60 yrs to experience and explore the world. I had a successful career, in spite of many hurdles. I have traveled all over the world, I have lived all over in the USA, in various places which allowed me to see life from other peoples' different perpectives. I have climbed 14,000 ft mountains, and dove 150 ft, the deepest allowed in recreation diving with one O2 tank. I swam with sharks, stingrays... you name it. So I have been lucky to see incredible sights in my life and have incredible experiences even though it wasn't easy. Every day was a struggle. But I have done it all and there is nothing left to do anymore, so it is time for me to say adieu in my own way.

I wish I could help some of the young kids here. I see that the society has failed the young- failed to offer them support, guidance and protection they need, and it saddens me tremendously. I dont have much time left but if any of the younger posters have any questions about how to overcome and go on, I am happy to answer them tonight when I return home.

I wish the young could see past what is brainwashed into us as to what makes one succesful or what is important in life. If you see past that, you might find the answers you seek. I spent most years in a big city amongst highly competitive and very successful people (success as defined by the society). Everything was measured by which Ivy league school one went to (I didn't), how much money you made, where do you vacation, how many homes and cars you have etc. One gets caught up with that and it diminishes life because no amount of money, power, prestige is enough. When I quit, left the big city and moved to the mountains and started hiking, quite late in my life, that is when I had an epiphany! Nature is the only true thing left on this Earth. Backpacking and hiking and seeing how people lived simply, in the mountains or the heartlands, and enjoyed their life was an awakening. I have always been non materialistic, hated owning stuff, but hiking in the mountains gave me clarity, although it came at a very late stage and was bit too late.

The point I am making to the young people here is that what you see on TV, Instagram etc is not necessarily the life- material things and instant gratification required to live a simple but happy life. There are also lot of vocations out there that will pay the bills, maybe won't make you rich, but will still enable one to have a happy life. It is all in the perspective. The less stressful jobs you take, maybe it won't pay you 6 figure salary, but might still enable you to lead a full life.

And no, one does not need college degree to be successful. Lot of entrepreuners dropped out of college- Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, many more. I personally know a woman who started as a secretary at a bank and over years made it as a Managing Director. I can tell you it wasn't easy for her. I know a guy who started as a car salesman and now owns his own car dealership. I know a woman, who I worked with, who quit her high paying job and went to art school, then got various low paying jobs at Sotheby's etc and now owns her own art gallery. Lot of successful CEO's, owners of businesses etc started with nothing and worked their way up. I can give you numerous examples. It really is about perseverance. Even I didn't see that when I was young and only saw all these succesful, beautiful people and believed that was the way it is supposed to be, especially since everyone I knew kept pounding it in my head. As a result, I made it harder for myself in many ways by constantly thinking I was a failure.

Having lived all over the USA, from coast to coast, in the heartland and in the moutains , I have seen people in all kinds of jobs. Here is one truth- only a few people are lucky enough to pursue professions they are passionate about where it doesn't feel like it is work. Most people get jobs to pay bills and support their families. IF you keep looking for Nirvana, you may never find it. I myself ended up in a job that paid a ton of money but was not my passion and I was miserable, even though I excelled in it. I hated the office politics and networking, which I was terrible at managing. But I used the money to pursue things that I was passionate about. I am not saying one has to make a ton of money. I have met Real Estate agents who wanted to be writers when they were young, but of course being successful as a writer is extremely difficult. So they got a job that paid them to support themselves, have a family and kids and they lead a perfectly happy life. I have seen people in various vocations- Nurses, teachers, construction workers, plumbers, chefs, bakery owners...you name it, who wanted to be muscians, painters, pro athletes, doctors or something else. One doesn't always get what one wants in life, but one can find a compromise that will allow at least a reasonable chance at experiencing life instead of calling it quits at 18, 20, 30 or even 40. That is such a young age, and there is a lot to see in the world and many lessons to learn in life. Einstein said when you stop learning then you are dead, I am paraphrasing. In my life, with all my struggles, I still focused on learning one new thing every year. It could be something quite simple but something I knew nothing about. Over years, I ended up learning a lot and now people who meet me are always amazed at how much I know about various things. It also proved to be something that distracted me from the daily struggles, a goal to fulfill every year so to speak.

I don't want to sound preachy. It is not my intention. It is hard to convey tone sometimes in writing vs. in person. I just wish some of the younger people perhaps try and find counselers, a friend, maybe a family member who cares. I know, from personal experience, that it is not always possible and I had to find inner fortitude and confidence to prevail on my own. It is not easy, in fact it is damn hard! But no one said life was easy or fair. That is my 2 cents worth!

Anyway, I thank everyone on this forum and the mods. I don't know how often I can log in between now and night of the 3rd. I plan to enjoy my last 3 days on this Earth without negative thoughts. I would have posted my Goodbye note I wrote to the world, but it has some content that might reveal my location, I would have to edit it. I don't want some busybody foiling my attempt. Plus, I don't think anyone would be interested! anyways LOL! It is a neutral note as I do not wish to depart spewing hate or sad cliches. It is unproductive at this point. People who know me already know the reason why, no need to belabor the point.

IF I don't log on by morn of the 4th, I am star dust!

I wish you all goodluck, and may your remaining days, years on this Earth be peaceful and happy.

So wise words, I don't know you, I hope I did, but the world will miss someone that matters and made a difference. Peace and love
 
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Wish you all the best!
 
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Goodluck and safe journey and thank you for your advice!! Sending lots of :heart: and :hug::hug:
 
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Thank you for some of the most beautiful and peaceful guidance. Even at 53, I appreciate and learned from your post. Almost to the point of giving it a second go at it..lol. I did say almost..I admire you for what you shared. It has not fallen on deaf ears. Even in your final moments, you found a way to help change the world in a beautiful way. Rest easy and may you find all the peace and love you deserve.
 
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May 29, 2019
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May I ask what method you're choosing?
 
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Nem

Drs suck mega ass!
Sep 3, 2018
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Wishing you the best❤️❤️❤️❤️
peace/hugs
 
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zeroambition

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Wishing you all the best ❤️
 
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I hope you get the peace you deserve no matter what.
 
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underthesea

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Dec 18, 2019
65
I am sending you love and peace and we are here should you want to talk. Know you aren't alone. :heart:
Thank you! Everyone on this forum has been wonderful. :hug:
I will only say I hope you find what your looking for in the next few days.

We will be here though if you decide to talk up to the point. You're definitely not alone. Nothing else, you can even just view this thread if you wanted. Whatever you decide.


Star dust. Come from stars, return to stars. I don't know if you find that calming, but such a thought is to me.
Yes, we are made of same material as the stars and we return to that. Thank you for your support.
Love and peace to you. ❤❤❤
We are here anytime you need.
Thank you. :hug:
You're so wise... Well farewell I hope the other side will be peaceful for you <3
Wisdom comes with age. That is why I wish I could convince some of the young people here to hang in there, at least until they are my age 60 yrs, and see what how life unfolds. Maybe they may get a pleasant, positive surprise if they make some calculated and deliberate changes. Thank you for your good wishes. :hug:
All the best for you and a peaceful journey.
Thank you! :hug:
 
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Wishing you a peaceful and painless transition.
 
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underthesea

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Dec 18, 2019
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So wise words, I don't know you, I hope I did, but the world will miss someone that matters and made a difference. Peace and love
Thank you for your kind words. See my post above re- wisdom. I'm wiser because of my age and through all my experiences. I fervently wish many of you would hang on. If just one young person on this forum gives life a chance, and hangs on until they are my age 60 yrs, I would be ecstatic! I wish I could convey some things that might help. It is hard to write vs. being able to speak in person. Thank you again for taking the time to post your kind wishes. :hug:
Wish you all the best!
Thank you! :hug:
Goodluck and safe journey and thank you for your advice!! Sending lots of :heart: and :hug::hug:
Thank you. I feel all the :heart: from y'all on this forum. :hug:
Thank you for some of the most beautiful and peaceful guidance. Even at 53, I appreciate and learned from your post. Almost to the point of giving it a second go at it..lol. I did say almost..I admire you for what you shared. It has not fallen on deaf ears. Even in your final moments, you found a way to help change the world in a beautiful way. Rest easy and may you find all the peace and love you deserve.
What a lovely thing to say-Thank you! I do wish you would hang on, at least till you hit 60. Thank you for taking the time to post this lovely response. :hug:
Wishing you the best❤❤❤❤
peace/hugs
Thank you so much! :hug:
Wishing you all the best ❤
Thank you! :hug:
I hope you get the peace you deserve no matter what.
Thank you kindly! :hug:
 
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good luck, peace x
 
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gabe

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Man... You made me think A LOT! I am planning to ctb tomorrow, but I am thinking a lot after reading your words. Thank you!

Wish you all the best and, sorry for saying it, but you're making a big difference by staying alive!

Good luck on whatever you do!
 
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underthesea

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Thank you everyone for taking the time to wish me a peaceful journey and sending love and hugs my way. I feel your love! :heart: :hug:

I am sorry though that I was unsuccessful in changing even 1 young person's mind to hang in there and give life a second chance, to find inner strength and confidence in yourself to continue on, even if you don't have anyone in your corner cheering for you. There is so much to see in the world.

Some things that did help me get through thus far-
1) Independent thinking- our schools and universities are geared towards cramming and getting good grades. They don't teach young kids how to think or how to think out of the box. I learned lot more by not following the herd.

2) Developing self confidence- I was very shy, aloof and self conscious about my looks, weak body, thick glasses, bad skin etc when I was a kid. Knowing this I deliberately made an effort to change the things I didn't like about myself. Too weak? I went to the gym, got more involved in sports. Mind you I learned various sports as an adult, 29- 35 yrs old, which is not an easy thing to do. I learned everything from martial arts, boxing, weight lifting, scuba, ice skating, roller blading, horseback riding, hiking etc. I started hiking and backpacking at age of 54 yrs! As I mentioned in my first post, I took it upon myself to learn one new thing every year. Painting, cooking .. you name it! If I can do it, so can you! I'm no more special than you. With every activity I learned, not only did I change myself, my body but I gained more knowledge and confidence in myself, enough to be able to carry on through life's travails all alone. Today, I am no longer shy or aloof. I can confidently talk to any strangers I meet in all my travels.

3) Belief in oneself- people will grind you down with negativity. Don't listen to most people who criticize you all the time and also don't listen to most who praise you all the time. Neither extremes are true. Listen to those who are balanced and provide only constructive feedback. Ignore others. That was something I didn't do when I was young. I was too sensitive and it cost me. One needs to develop a thick skin in life. Don't sweat the small stuff and don't take everything to heart. Don't hang around people who pull you down. Try to hang around people who inspire you, who are better than you and who will bring out the best in you.

4) Fortitude: You will fail in life, a lot! Everyone does. Use it as a learning moment and carry on. Learning from one's mistakes is the single best thing you will do, which will lead to success eventually. Observe how many successful people failed in their lives and still went on to achieve their goals eventually. Most famous case is Steve Jobs. He was fired from Apple and later made a spectacular comeback. History is littered with such examples. So don't give up at first fall you take.

5) Perseverance- goes hand in hand with fortitude.

There is so much more I wish I could tell you. Best thing one can do is observe successful people on life. Figure out what makes them so and work on developing those qualities and skills. Just because one doesn't have them to start with doesn't mean one cannot develop them over the years. People can change. Key is one has to want to change, to learn to develop into the best we can be. Change takes time, that is why you must hang on and give it some time. I can guarantee you at 19 or 20 you know nothing, even though you might think you do. Heck, I used to bristle at old peeps telling me the same when I was younger, thinking what the heck do they know when they can't even change the freakin' clock on the microwave, which is still blinking at 12:00! But guess what? I was wrong. I see it now. I knew NOTHING back then. Wisdom comes with age, from all struggles, mistakes, failures, successes, heartbreaks etc.

Truth be told, I think even 60 yrs is too young to call it quits. If I hadn't done everything I wanted in life already or if I had dependants/ family, I would carry on, even if every day was a struggle. But now for me travel is a chore more than excitement. I have become blasé to new things I see because I say oh I already seen that at such and such place and it was even better! For me it is a case of been there, done that, I know this, I know that already. If you cannot say that then you must give yourself the chance to find out!

Also, at 60 yrs my body no longer does what I need it to do. The only thing I have to look forward to is the high probability of developing a horrible disease and with no one to take care of me I would be lying in a hospital or hospice all alone. That isn't something I want; it goes against my character. Hence, I am bidding adieu to the world on a high note, on my terms. But for you all young kids, assuming no physical challenges, if you are quitting because life is too hard, because school, college is too hard, if job is too hard, or your heart is broken from failed relationship, then I implore you to think again. As earth shattering and big a deal all that seems to you now, in big scheme of life, it is not! These things are not immutable. They are fixable if you change your perspective. Perception is reality in life.

If just one person on this forum heeds what I am saying, hangs on and gives life their best shot, that would make me enormously happy! Either way, I thank you all for taking the time to read my post and sending me such warm wishes for my long journey! Love and peace to all. :heart::hug:
Man... You made me think A LOT! I am planning to ctb tomorrow, but I am thinking a lot after reading your words. Thank you!

Wish you all the best and, sorry for saying it, but you're making a big difference by staying alive!

Good luck on whatever you do!
Hello,
Please read my latest post, #20 on this thread. I really hope you give it some serious thought. The option to CTB will be there 10, 20 yrs from now. Decide if you truly gave life your best shot. Look around you- majority of people do not live rich and privileged lives. Yet, even a simple life can be a happy life. Heck, even rich people don't have it all together. It is an illusion. If they did would there be so many celebrities killing themselves? Whitney Houston, Anthony Bourdain, Kate Spade... the list goes on. The secret to happy life is not riches, power etc. In my travels I have encountered people with absolutely simple life who were quite happy and had flourishing families.

Determine what things make you happy, or will make you happy and then go on achieving them, even if you have to do it all alone. Change things about yourself that need changing. When you do achieve success, it will be all the more sweeter because you did it all on your own, against all odds!

Good luck to you. I wish you all the best. Is there anything I can say that might help you to hang on till you are my age? I don't have all the answers but I may have some. :heart::hug:
 
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It felt very good reading your post, I wish you all the strength and hope you find your peace.... :heart: :hug:
 
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May I ask what method you're choosing?
Hello,
If you read my "N vs Nitrogen dilemma, which to use?" thread, it will be evident that I have chosen to go with Nitrogen method. I prefer the no prep required, and the very fast LOC and time to death. I also prefer that it is closer to natural breathing and a deductive method I.e. one is just taking out O2 from the normal air we breathe, vs. additive I.e. adding a toxic poison in my body.

I have a hotel booked for 3rd and 4th night. I will be following through with Nitrogen method night of the 3rd (my time zone). I am not even planning on putting do not disturb sign, because no one will come late at night and I need very little time to death, unlike N. This way my body will be found on the morning of 4th, and since I have paid for that night, it gives the hotel at least some time to take care of the aftermath.

I should lose consciousness within 30 secs to 60 secs. Avg for this method is 35 secs. I should be gone within 10-13 mins. If for some freak reason, after my tank empties in 30 mins, say if I wake up 1-2 hrs later, which is highly unlikely, then assuming I am not lying paralyzed or something, I can get up and start my backup of N, since I have it. I will start with stat dose of antiemetics and take N 45 mins later. Worse case scenario, I extend my room for 5th night, instead of checkout on 5th if I need to follow through with N. I don't see Nitrogen failing, but just in case.

If for some reason, Nitrogen fails, I will log on either on 3rd night or 4th and let y'all know and that I am following through with backup plan of N. Again, I don't see Nitrogen failing, unless some leaks develop after I am unconscious.

So, essentially if I don't log on by morning of 4th, my time zone, y'all can conclude that I was successful!
 
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MMXX- dawn of the New Year! Holidays are over and my long awaited date approaches, night of the 3rd. I am fairly new to the forum and did not get a chance to get acquianted with many.

Without divulging my location, it is early morn here and I watched my 3rd last sunrise from my balcony. I am lucky that I get to watch both sunrise and sunset right from my balcony- have almost 225 deg view. I will be spending the next 2 days at the beach- where else (see my chosen name for this site)?! Everything is ready; I am at peace as I have reflected upon my life in the last month, during the holidays. My decision was made over many years of contemplation (6 yrs), not impulsively. So, I am ready.

I thank the moderators for letting me join this site, and I thank everyone who took the time to respond to my questions on my "N vs Nitrogen, which to use?" thread. I have had direct chats with some of you and I enjoyed our conversations, although it was for a very brief period. I thank everyone who read my various posts on other threads and responded.

However, I am saddened to see so many young people on this site. I am for right to choose, and am not the kind of person to ever impose my views or beliefs on others. But I do wish the younger people would take a closer look at their issues and give life a chance. I have never had any family or friends who offered any kind of support, even though I have excelled in everything I undertook in life. No matter how perfect I was, it was never enough to satisfy the people I met. It was tremendously stressful and disheartening. I often wondered why I was doing anything if no one cared. But in spite of many obstacles, I acheieved a lot all on my own. I look back at my younger self, the age of many posters here, and I see that I knew very little back then compared to what I know now about life. I am 60 yrs old, I see a lot of things I could have handled differently, if I just had a right mentor or someone who would have given me the right guidance. I have a few regrets about some decisions I made, which had I chosen a different path would have altered my life. But even without that, I had 60 yrs to experience and explore the world. I had a successful career, in spite of many hurdles. I have traveled all over the world, I have lived all over in the USA, in various places which allowed me to see life from other peoples' different perpectives. I have climbed 14,000 ft mountains, and dove 150 ft, the deepest allowed in recreation diving with one O2 tank. I swam with sharks, stingrays... you name it. So I have been lucky to see incredible sights in my life and have incredible experiences even though it wasn't easy. Every day was a struggle. But I have done it all and there is nothing left to do anymore, so it is time for me to say adieu in my own way.

I wish I could help some of the young kids here. I see that the society has failed the young- failed to offer them support, guidance and protection they need, and it saddens me tremendously. I dont have much time left but if any of the younger posters have any questions about how to overcome and go on, I am happy to answer them tonight when I return home.

I wish the young could see past what is brainwashed into us as to what makes one succesful or what is important in life. If you see past that, you might find the answers you seek. I spent most years in a big city amongst highly competitive and very successful people (success as defined by the society). Everything was measured by which Ivy league school one went to (I didn't), how much money you made, where do you vacation, how many homes and cars you have etc. One gets caught up with that and it diminishes life because no amount of money, power, prestige is enough. When I quit, left the big city and moved to the mountains and started hiking, quite late in my life, that is when I had an epiphany! Nature is the only true thing left on this Earth. Backpacking and hiking and seeing how people lived simply, in the mountains or the heartlands, and enjoyed their life was an awakening. I have always been non materialistic, hated owning stuff, but hiking in the mountains gave me clarity, although it came at a very late stage and was bit too late.

The point I am making to the young people here is that what you see on TV, Instagram etc is not necessarily the life- material things and instant gratification required to live a simple but happy life. There are also lot of vocations out there that will pay the bills, maybe won't make you rich, but will still enable one to have a happy life. It is all in the perspective. The less stressful jobs you take, maybe it won't pay you 6 figure salary, but might still enable you to lead a full life.

And no, one does not need college degree to be successful. Lot of entrepreuners dropped out of college- Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, many more. I personally know a woman who started as a secretary at a bank and over years made it as a Managing Director. I can tell you it wasn't easy for her. I know a guy who started as a car salesman and now owns his own car dealership. I know a woman, who I worked with, who quit her high paying job and went to art school, then got various low paying jobs at Sotheby's etc and now owns her own art gallery. Lot of successful CEO's, owners of businesses etc started with nothing and worked their way up. I can give you numerous examples. It really is about perseverance. Even I didn't see that when I was young and only saw all these succesful, beautiful people and believed that was the way it is supposed to be, especially since everyone I knew kept pounding it in my head. As a result, I made it harder for myself in many ways by constantly thinking I was a failure.

Having lived all over the USA, from coast to coast, in the heartland and in the moutains , I have seen people in all kinds of jobs. Here is one truth- only a few people are lucky enough to pursue professions they are passionate about where it doesn't feel like it is work. Most people get jobs to pay bills and support their families. IF you keep looking for Nirvana, you may never find it. I myself ended up in a job that paid a ton of money but was not my passion and I was miserable, even though I excelled in it. I hated the office politics and networking, which I was terrible at managing. But I used the money to pursue things that I was passionate about. I am not saying one has to make a ton of money. I have met Real Estate agents who wanted to be writers when they were young, but of course being successful as a writer is extremely difficult. So they got a job that paid them to support themselves, have a family and kids and they lead a perfectly happy life. I have seen people in various vocations- Nurses, teachers, construction workers, plumbers, chefs, bakery owners...you name it, who wanted to be muscians, painters, pro athletes, doctors or something else. One doesn't always get what one wants in life, but one can find a compromise that will allow at least a reasonable chance at experiencing life instead of calling it quits at 18, 20, 30 or even 40. That is such a young age, and there is a lot to see in the world and many lessons to learn in life. Einstein said when you stop learning then you are dead, I am paraphrasing. In my life, with all my struggles, I still focused on learning one new thing every year. It could be something quite simple but something I knew nothing about. Over years, I ended up learning a lot and now people who meet me are always amazed at how much I know about various things. It also proved to be something that distracted me from the daily struggles, a goal to fulfill every year so to speak.

I don't want to sound preachy. It is not my intention. It is hard to convey tone sometimes in writing vs. in person. I just wish some of the younger people perhaps try and find counselers, a friend, maybe a family member who cares. I know, from personal experience, that it is not always possible and I had to find inner fortitude and confidence to prevail on my own. It is not easy, in fact it is damn hard! But no one said life was easy or fair. That is my 2 cents worth!

Anyway, I thank everyone on this forum and the mods. I don't know how often I can log in between now and night of the 3rd. I plan to enjoy my last 3 days on this Earth without negative thoughts. I would have posted my Goodbye note I wrote to the world, but it has some content that might reveal my location, I would have to edit it. I don't want some busybody foiling my attempt. Plus, I don't think anyone would be interested! anyways LOL! It is a neutral note as I do not wish to depart spewing hate or sad cliches. It is unproductive at this point. People who know me already know the reason why, no need to belabor the point.

IF I don't log on by morn of the 4th, I am star dust!

I wish you all goodluck, and may your remaining days, years on this Earth be peaceful and happy.

That was an awesome, well thought out post. I don't remember talking to you before but I do remember seeing your screen name.
I wish you the best and hope you find peace. :hug: :heart: :heart: :hug: Safe Travels.
 
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Gute Nacht, and may you have a smooth journey ahead. May you achieve the peace you sought.
 
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Apr 12, 2019
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@underthesea,
journey peacefully and well
and convey my love to @Superfluous if you can xox
 
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underthesea

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Dec 18, 2019
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That was an awesome, well thought out post. I don't remember talking to you before but I do remember seeing your screen name.
I wish you the best and hope you find peace. :hug: :heart: :heart: :hug: Safe Travels.
Thank you for your kind wishes. :hug:
Gute Nacht, and may you have a smooth journey ahead. May you achieve the peace you sought.
Thank you! :hug:
@underthesea,
journey peacefully and well
and convey my love to @Superfluous if you can xox
Thank you. I will pass on the message. :hug:
 
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Canon1

Student
Dec 2, 2019
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So you use a suicide bag? By the way are you German?
 
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a_strange_day

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Jul 16, 2019
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Beautiful post. Wishing you all the best.
 
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chris8000

Experienced
Dec 10, 2019
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That was an insightful goodbye post.

Wishing you freedom from all suffering :heart:
 
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jgm63

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Oct 28, 2019
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Wishing you a safe journey :heart:
So you use a suicide bag? By the way are you German?
Quoting the OP : "If for some freak reason, after my tank empties in 30 mins"
So sounds like he's using a tank....
 
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