I know it's been asked about 400 times but I can't find the mds source after scrolling through like 50 pages of search engine results. Would anyone be kind enough to pm me the actual site? Co failed miserably and I'd prefer to try sn at this point.
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I doubt if anyone will give you a source.
It would be helpful to others if you could give a detailed account of why you failed at CO.
It would be helpful to others if you could give a detailed account of why you failed at CO.
I believe the CO failure was due to a leak in the vehicle somewhere. I taped all the vents and openings before running the test. I had read that newer vehicles would provide enough of a seal on the doors and windows if it was in good shape so I went ahead with that forethought. I tried royal oak briquettes, 2 chimney starters worth, for the first test. Waited until they were glowing and ashed over completely. I put them into 2 separate metal buckets and placed the buckets into pans with 1" of water to displace the heat. Took 45 minutes to get up to 1400 ppm and then it dropped from there.
Next test I tried the lump coal in buckets. Couldn't get past 1100 ppm.
3rd test was attempted with lump coal and BBQ grills instead of buckets. Made it to 1250ppm and dropped.
4th test was the briquettes on the BBQ grills and was able to reach 1900 ppm, but 15 minutes later it had already dropped to 1100.
I understand those levels are technically enough to ctb but they did not make me or my partner comfortable enough to believe a peaceful attempt could be made. It could probably be done in a tent or something but the multiple failures just made us want to find another way to go and sn is the preferred choice at this point due to efficacy and less obvious preparation required to ctb.
Next test I tried the lump coal in buckets. Couldn't get past 1100 ppm.
3rd test was attempted with lump coal and BBQ grills instead of buckets. Made it to 1250ppm and dropped.
4th test was the briquettes on the BBQ grills and was able to reach 1900 ppm, but 15 minutes later it had already dropped to 1100.
I understand those levels are technically enough to ctb but they did not make me or my partner comfortable enough to believe a peaceful attempt could be made. It could probably be done in a tent or something but the multiple failures just made us want to find another way to go and sn is the preferred choice at this point due to efficacy and less obvious preparation required to ctb.
@doubjack24 How much charcoal did u use in your tests? How much kg charcoal did u burn for each test?
It was 4lb in each starter so roughly a total of 3.6 kg which far exceeded the necessary requirement for a 5 cubic meter interior of the vehicle. According to the calculations.
It was weird to me that the coals quit smoldering completely within an hour to 1.5 hours during each test. From what I had previously read they should have smoldered for much longer.
It was weird to me that the coals quit smoldering completely within an hour to 1.5 hours during each test. From what I had previously read they should have soldered for much longer.
I'm referring to the mds source so I can get sn itself.
It was weird to me that the coals quit smoldering completely within an hour to 1.5 hours during each test. From what I had previously read they should have soldered for much longer.
I'm not referring to the AE I already tried getting those from my doctor. He claimed that I had not been seen for nausea before so if OTC medications didn't cover it to come back in a month unless something weird showed up on the blood and urine tests they did. Of course nothing did so I'll have to wait a while to get a script for those.
I'm referring to the mds source so I can get sn itself.
Very bad quality charcoal? Was it lump charcoal? Briquettes?
If they actually burn too fast there is not enough time to produce enough CO also the actual amount of carbon in th coal is important. It's only carbon that can react in an incomplete combustion with O2 to CO. I assume very bad quality coals.
Old posts but users did similar tests in the past:
Carbon monoxide megathread
But how don't the bottom of it melt with coals? I mean the metal buckets for that are made for ashes and used coals gets so hot that it will burn anything from its bottom if there is no wooden thing underneath it (they are made for empting cold or warm ashes from fireplaces and burn from bottom...
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Carbon monoxide megathread
Is there a way to do this without a car and without using fire? I'm using my bathroom and have sealed windows so air can't get inside. It's the smallest room I have. I will also place something in front of the space under the door so air can't get into the room. I will be lighting the...
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It's possible we had bad coals but I bought one of the recommended brands. Royal Oak is apparently one of the better brands.Very bad quality charcoal? Was it lump charcoal? Briquettes?
If theyx actually burn too fast there is not enough time to produce enough CO also the actual amount of carbon in th coal is important. It's only carbon that can react in an incomplete combustion with O2 to CO. I assume very bad quality coals.
Old posts but users did similar tests in the past:
Carbon monoxide megathread
But how don't the bottom of it melt with coals? I mean the metal buckets for that are made for ashes and used coals gets so hot that it will burn anything from its bottom if there is no wooden thing underneath it (they are made for empting cold or warm ashes from fireplaces and burn from bottom...
Carbon monoxide megathread
Is there a way to do this without a car and without using fire? I'm using my bathroom and have sealed windows so air can't get inside. It's the smallest room I have. I will also place something in front of the space under the door so air can't get into the room. I will be lighting the...
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