SN without antiemetics regimen

[TheDoomedDoomer]

Hello I was wondering if I can have any advice on my own personal regimen since I won't be able to get antiemetics for the SN method. So here it goes. (step 1.) weigh up 4 doses on digital kitchen scale at 25 grams each then add to 50 milliliters of water for each dose. (Step 2.) Begin 8 hour fast with the last 2 hours being a dry fast. (Step 3.) The last 3 hours of the fast take one dose of Dramamine per hour. (Step 4.) Last hour of fast take 2x dose of Dramamine followed by 800mg of ibuprofen. ( Step 5.) 10 minutes before SN ingestion rinse with Listerine mouth wash before ingestion to numb taste buds. ( Step 6.) Immediately after SN ingestion rinse again with Listerine mouth wash. : Side note: would it be possible to use oralgel instead of mouth wash to numb the taste buds? Or would that mess something up if it was accidentally swallowed? Anyway thanks for any advice on this. I'll gladly possibly consider any advice given to help improve this regimen.

 

[Ecka-26]

I'm in the same situation with you, all I have is tagamet gravol and Ibuprofen. AE'S are very hard to get.

 

[Lost Magic]

Do not, repeat do not take SN without anti-emetics. Even if you can't get the prescription only ones get something over the counter like buccastem.

 

[Sk3le]

Same shit here, cant get ae, the only website i had that shipped in eu seems to be down now

 

[Shu]

There an online pharmacy that ships it without a prescription.

 

[BornBrief]

Do not, repeat do not take SN without anti-emetics. Even if you can't get the prescription only ones get something over the counter like buccastem.

You don't need it

 

[Sk3le]

There an online pharmacy that ships it without a prescription.

If is the same that i found they ship in the whole europe except in my country :\

 

[Lost Magic]

You don't need it

Actually, you do. The Peaceful Pill Handbook even considers it essential:

 

[BornBrief]

Plenty of people have gone without and if you look at the recentish posts in SN forum, exit did a study and many did not have AE but all passed. Even antacid isn't recommended anymore

 

[Lost Magic]

Plenty of people have gone without and if you look at the recentish posts in SN forum, exit did a study and many did not have AE but all passed. Even antacid isn't recommended anymore

I think it is still not wise. There is no way I would take a chance of ingesting something (and wanting to hold it down) that was a high vomit risk. Now you are telling people not to take an anti-acid?

 

[Salvation_]

I think it is still not wise. There is no way I would take a chance of ingesting something (and wanting to hold it down) that was a high vomit risk. Now you are telling people not to take an anti-acid?

Well you cited PPeH, which doesn't recommend antacid anymore. Funny how that works?

 

[BornBrief]

Well you cited PPeH, which doesn't recommend antacid anymore. Funny how that works?

right? Lmao He's acting like I'm the one who just made it up. There are studies done on this. It's why it's recommended to have a second dose ready

 

[Shu]

Plenty of people have gone without and if you look at the recentish posts in SN forum, exit did a study and many did not have AE but all passed. Even antacid isn't recommended anymore

Most people on that list of 25( there is 80 something but they haven't added the rest) didn't use AE. From what was listed.
Paul is just trying to be helpful you guys. Although no.. you don't technically need anything but SN.

 

[Doombox]

Plenty of people have gone without and if you look at the recentish posts in SN forum, exit did a study and many did not have AE but all passed. Even antacid isn't recommended anymore

What SN forum are you talking about? I am interested in the exit study. Thanks.

 

[befree]

Do not, repeat do not take SN without anti-emetics. Even if you can't get the prescription only ones get something over the counter like buccastem.

An over the counter antiemetic is Diphenhydramin(chlorid). You can find it with different brand names on the Internet. I would definitely use an antiemetic, not only for SN, but also for N and any other substance.

 

[TheDoomedDoomer]

An over the counter antiemetic is Diphenhydramin(chlorid). You can find it with different brand names on the Internet. I would definitely use an antiemetic, not only for SN, but also for N and any other substance.

I've now gotten metoclopramide since this post thanks

 

[nosurpries]

Do not, repeat do not take SN without anti-emetics. Even if you can't get the prescription only ones get something over the counter like buccastem.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...-on-the-forum-as-a-cause-of-sn-failure.47986/

some vomit even with an AE. it makes the experience go smoother, but it is not vital.

 

[Shu]

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...-on-the-forum-as-a-cause-of-sn-failure.47986/

some vomit even with an AE. it makes the experience go smoother, but it is not vital.

Most vomit.

 

[Theanswer]

Hello I was wondering if I can have any advice on my own personal regimen since I won't be able to get antiemetics for the SN method. So here it goes. (step 1.) weigh up 4 doses on digital kitchen scale at 25 grams each then add to 50 milliliters of water for each dose. (Step 2.) Begin 8 hour fast with the last 2 hours being a dry fast. (Step 3.) The last 3 hours of the fast take one dose of Dramamine per hour. (Step 4.) Last hour of fast take 2x dose of Dramamine followed by 800mg of ibuprofen. ( Step 5.) 10 minutes before SN ingestion rinse with Listerine mouth wash before ingestion to numb taste buds. ( Step 6.) Immediately after SN ingestion rinse again with Listerine mouth wash. : Side note: would it be possible to use oralgel instead of mouth wash to numb the taste buds? Or would that mess something up if it was accidentally swallowed? Anyway thanks for any advice on this. I'll gladly possibly consider any advice given to help improve this regimen.

Thanks for the post. So would you do the actual mixing of the SN with water right after Listerine rinse? I don't know anything about the oralgel.

An over the counter antiemetic is Diphenhydramin(chlorid). You can find it with different brand names on the Internet. I would definitely use an antiemetic, not only for SN, but also for N and any other substance.

OP initially listed Dramamine in her regime, which is an OTC antiemetic.

 

[Venture98]

Thanks for the post. So would you do the actual mixing of the SN with water right after Listerine rinse? I don't know anything about the oralgel.

OP initially listed Dramamine in her regime, which is an OTC antiemetic.

According to Stan's guide Dramamine doesn't work that same as the prescription stuff. Different part of the brain. Different kind of nausea.
I too plan on using SN without the ae. I'm just doing ibuprofen and I was going to take some benedyrl so I'll go to sleep faster. I was going to do antacids but now I'm not sure if it's needed. I'm definitely going to fast though for at least a day.
I too plan on using SN without the ae. I'm just doing ibuprofen and I was going to take some benedyrl so I'll go to sleep faster. I was going to do antacids but now I'm not sure if it's needed. I'm definitely going to fast though for at least a day.

 

[TheDoomedDoomer]

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...-on-the-forum-as-a-cause-of-sn-failure.47986/

some vomit even with an AE. it makes the experience go smoother, but it is not vital.

I've now gotten metoclopramide since I've made this post thanks for the info.

Thanks for the post. So would you do the actual mixing of the SN with water right after Listerine rinse? I don't know anything about the oralgel.

OP initially listed Dramamine in her regime, which is an OTC antiemetic.

To clear things up I'm a guy btw and I've gotten metoclopramide since I've made this post. I plan to use both oralgel and Listerine to help numb the taste buds before and after ingestion to make things smoother.

 

[Lost Magic]

Well you cited PPeH, which doesn't recommend antacid anymore. Funny how that works?

Does the PPEH say that you shouldn't bother taking an anti-sickness tablet anymore? Let me know when they do and get back to me? I still say it is imperative to take an anti-sickness for a substance that has a high vomit risk. It's just common sense. Seems to be lacking these days.

right? Lmao He's acting like I'm the one who just made it up. There are studies done on this. It's why it's recommended to have a second dose ready

case in point.

 

[abyss]

Has anyone managed to just get antiemetics by prescription? I was planning on going to a doctor and saying I've been suffering with nausea or maybe I need them for a specific form of travel. I would have thought they would be a lot easier to get legitimately as opposed to procuring SN or N but seemingly not.

 

[Ethereal Knight]

Has anyone managed to just get antiemetics by prescription? I was planning on going to a doctor and saying I've been suffering with nausea or maybe I need them for a specific form of travel. I would have thought they would be a lot easier to get legitimately as opposed to procuring SN or N but seemingly not.

metoclopramide and domperidone are used for things like chemotherapy (cancer treatment), not for nausea.

for nausea, they prescribe dimenhydrinate, promethazine etc...

with that said, though, the PPH mentions that if you can't get anti-emetics, you can settle for dimenhydrinate or even high-quality cannabis.

dimenhydrinate would be used like this: 100mg, 30 minutes before the attempt.

as for cannabis: smoking it (not eating), 5 minutes before the attempt.

but people can also be successful with the SN method without taking any anti-emetics.

 

[abyss]

metoclopramide and domperidone are used for things like chemotherapy (cancer treatment), not for nausea.

for nausea, they prescribe dimenhydrinate, promethazine etc...

with that said, though, the PPH mentions that if you can't get anti-emetics, you can settle for dimenhydrinate or even high-quality cannabis.

dimenhydrinate would be used like this: 100mg, 30 minutes before the attempt.

as for cannabis: smoking it (not eating), 5 minutes before the attempt.

but people can also be successful with the SN method without taking any anti-emetics.

Thanks for the info. To be honest I am still at the procurement stage for SN/ N so I wasn't clued-up on the antiemetics part. I'll keep this in mind.

 

[TheDoomedDoomer]

Has anyone managed to just get antiemetics by prescription? I was planning on going to a doctor and saying I've been suffering with nausea or maybe I need them for a specific form of travel. I would have thought they would be a lot easier to get legitimately as opposed to procuring SN or N but seemingly not.

I got my metoclopramide from an online pharmacy without prescription. It was sketchy at first and I thought it wasn't real until I took some. Was only 24$

 

[Theanswer]

metoclopramide and domperidone are used for things like chemotherapy (cancer treatment), not for nausea.

for nausea, they prescribe dimenhydrinate, promethazine etc...

with that said, though, the PPH mentions that if you can't get anti-emetics, you can settle for dimenhydrinate or even high-quality cannabis.

dimenhydrinate would be used like this: 100mg, 30 minutes before the attempt.

as for cannabis: smoking it (not eating), 5 minutes before the attempt.

but people can also be successful with the SN method without taking any anti-emetics.

Both metoclopramide (AE suggested in PPeH) and ondansetron are used to prevent nausea AND vomiting. BUT meto is also frequently prescribed for nausea and vomiting during migraine attack. They are also both used to prevent nausea and vomiting caused by cancer chemotherapy, radiation therapy, and surgery.

 

[Ethereal Knight]

Both metoclopramide (AE suggested in PPeH) and ondansetron are used to prevent nausea and vomiting. BUT meto is also frequently prescribed for vomiting during migraine attack. They are also both used to prevent nausea and vomiting caused by cancer chemotherapy, radiation therapy, and surgery.

interesting. meto's wikipedia page shows other uses as well: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metoclopramide#Medical_uses
"Metoclopramide is commonly used to treat nausea and vomiting associated with conditions such as uremia, radiation sickness, cancer and the effects of chemotherapy, labor, infection, and emetogenic drugs."​

webMD page also says "This medication is used to treat certain conditions of the stomach and intestines. Metoclopramide is used as a short-term treatment (4 to 12 weeks) for ongoing heartburn when the usual medicines do not work well enough. It is used mostly for heartburn that occurs after a meal or during the daytime. Treating ongoing heartburn can decrease the damage done by stomach acid to the swallowing tube (esophagus) and help healing.Metoclopramide is also used in diabetic patients who have poor emptying of their stomachs (gastroparesis). Treating gastroparesis can decrease symptoms of nausea, vomiting, and stomach/abdominal fullness. Metoclopramide works by blocking a natural substance (dopamine). It speeds up stomach emptying and movement of the upper intestines."

seems like it's possible to make up a story to get the prescription

also, traveling to Brazil could be an option, as meto is still over-the-counter here as of 2022 (not to mention SN is easy to buy here).

 

[EndlessDespair]

metoclopramide and domperidone are used for things like chemotherapy (cancer treatment), not for nausea.

for nausea, they prescribe dimenhydrinate, promethazine etc...

with that said, though, the PPH mentions that if you can't get anti-emetics, you can settle for dimenhydrinate or even high-quality cannabis.

dimenhydrinate would be used like this: 100mg, 30 minutes before the attempt.

as for cannabis: smoking it (not eating), 5 minutes before the attempt.

but people can also be successful with the SN method without taking any anti-emetics.

Thank you, it's literally impossible for me to get the recommended antiemetics. I hope gravol and some weed is enough

I got my metoclopramide from an online pharmacy without prescription. It was sketchy at first and I thought it wasn't real until I took some. Was only 24$

How do you know they gave you the right stuff?

 

[IntelligentLeg]

If you vomit, you're supposed to drink another 25g. I bought SN 2 weeks ago. I've been reading all about it here and in other places...