Help SN with only ibuprofen?

[thouxan]

I might be able to obtain SN after all so I am thinking of an alternative plan.

How reliable is it if I only take 25g SN and ibuprofen an hour before? I am at a healthy weight.

Antacids are no longer recommended and antiemetics are too hard to get.

How likely am I to vomit? I have read that even if you use AE you are still likely to vomit. If this makes a difference I can't even remember the last time I vomited, must have been over 10 years ago.

I will prepare 1 or 2 extra glasses just in case. But theoretically, if I am able to keep the SN down or drink an extra glass in case I vomit, shouldn't it be 100% lethal unless I get found early?

 

[NoLoveNoHope]

It's generally recommended if you throw up to ditch the attempt and continue trying to throw up since you don't know how lethal the dosage can be. That's why AE's are recommended as it's your #1 opponent.

I wouldn't recommend downing more since I'm unsure of higher dosages of SN can have - I assume it'll be less peaceful. In short I recommend waiting for your attempt, to my knowledge AE's are easy to come by. I recommend reading up on PPH it will do a way better job at explaining the role of AE's and how SN works for end of life use.

 

[thouxan]

It's generally recommended if you throw up to ditch the attempt and continue trying to throw up since you don't know how lethal the dosage can be. That's why AE's are recommended as it's your #1 opponent.

I wouldn't recommend downing more since I'm unsure of higher dosages of SN can have - I assume it'll be less peaceful. In short I recommend waiting for your attempt, to my knowledge AE's are easy to come by. I recommend reading up on PPH it will do a way better job at explaining the role of AE's and how SN works for end of life use.

I have read the PPH and Stan's guide many times. I understand the role of AE. But it is hard to get, I would need to go to a doctor and lie for a prescription and it would look sketchy af, I doubt I could do it. And even then, he could prescribe a non-ideal AE, and no AE is even that reliable to begin with.

 

[NoLoveNoHope]

I have read the PPH and Stan's guide many times. I understand the role of AE. But it is hard to get, I would need to go to a doctor and lie for a prescription and it would look sketchy af, I doubt I could do it. And even then, he could prescribe a non-ideal AE, and no AE is even that reliable to begin with.

I've heard of online pharmacies selling prescription drugs like AEs without a prescription. You might be able to post another thread looking for them, I don't have sources atm but if you're able to find some I'd love to have them as well.

 

[WonderfulWeatherDIE]

I might be able to obtain SN after all so I am thinking of an alternative plan.

How reliable is it if I only take 25g SN and ibuprofen an hour before? I am at a healthy weight.

Antacids are no longer recommended and antiemetics are too hard to get.

How likely am I to vomit? I have read that even if you use AE you are still likely to vomit. If this makes a difference I can't even remember the last time I vomited, must have been over 10 years ago.

I will prepare 1 or 2 extra glasses just in case. But theoretically, if I am able to keep the SN down or drink an extra glass in case I vomit, shouldn't it be 100% lethal unless I get found early?

Dont, Yes it would still be possible to CTB but you will vomit almost guaranteed without antiemetics, and continuing from there will make the experience very uncomfortable and lengthy.
Not to mention that antiemetics like Metoclopramide (the best one for SN) not only prevent you from vomiting but also decrease Nausea. So unless you want to feel dizzy as shit the entire time, without AE its not recommended. Things like painkillers or benzos are optional, but AE is pretty much a must.

 

[thouxan]

I've heard of online pharmacies selling prescription drugs like AEs without a prescription. You might be able to post another thread looking for them, I don't have sources atm but if you're able to find some I'd love to have them as well.

All the online pharmacies in my country are useless, and all of the recommended AEs require prescrption.

 

[WonderfulWeatherDIE]

All the online pharmacies in my country are useless, and all of the recommended AEs require prescrption.

Well its either trying to lie to your doctor or a very unpleasanr Death. Seriously, dont use SN without AE. Yes people have done it before and some were succesful in CTB but the second you dont use AE the success rate drops significantly.

 

[that smell]

I believe LetzeAusfahrt successfully ctb with no AEs. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong. I'm sure it's possible but not recommended because you're very likely to vomit.

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Today the time has finally come, I have my final exam. I will finally find out whether I have learned the right thing and can actually apply it. At least the part about being relaxed seems to fit, I'm completely relaxed and hardly think about tonight. Let's see how it develops. I am pursuing...

sanctioned-suicide.net

 

[thouxan]

Well its either trying to lie to your doctor or a very unpleasanr Death. Seriously, dont use SN without AE. Yes people have done it before and some were succesful in CTB but the second you dont use AE the success rate drops significantly.

I found an otc med that contains 500 mg paracetamol and 5 mg metoclopramide per tablet. No other AE is available without prescription. Do you think taking 2 tablets before drinking the SN would be enough?

 

[WonderfulWeatherDIE]

I found an otc med that contains 500 mg paracetamol and 5 mg metoclopramide per tablet. No other AE is available without prescription. Do you think taking 2 tablets before drinking the SN would be enough?

In total you need 30mg of Meto before you take the SN. You can either take this 30 minutes / 1 hour before the SN or you can split up the 30mg into 10mg each in a 24 or 48 hours regimen.

I dont know about the paracetamol tho, I wouldnt use that. Im pretty sure paracetamol is actually bad for the SN method and causes some very unwanted effects if I remember properly.

 

[thouxan]

In total you need 30mg of Meto before you take the SN. You can either take this 30 minutes / 1 hour before the SN or you can split up the 30mg into 10mg each in a 24 or 48 hours regimen.

I dont know about the paracetamol tho, I wouldnt use that. Im pretty sure paracetamol is actually bad for the SN method and causes some very unwanted effects if I remember properly.

Why does this shit have to be so hard man. I will probably need to do the good old hanging, can't see myself going through the process to get an AE without causing suspicion to family

 

[WonderfulWeatherDIE]

Why does this shit have to be so hard man. I will probably need to do the good old hanging, can't see myself going through the process to get an AE without causing suspicion to family

I know, it sucks so fucking much. I envy the people in canada who can get MAID (medical assistance in dying, legal assisted suicide).

I dont know, maybe im mistaken, but do your research. Also for this to work you would need to down 6x 5mg tablets to get 30mg of Meto. In turn that would also be 6x 500mg of paracet, so 3000mg of paracetamol. Isnt that a lot? Im pretty sure that wont go well.
If were here already, where did you get your SN from? Mind sharing? I want to ctb using SN aswell.

 

[thouxan]

I know, it sucks so fucking much. I envy the people in canada who can get MAID (medical assistance in dying, legal assisted suicide).

I dont know, maybe im mistaken, but do your research. Also for this to work you would need to down 6x 5mg tablets to get 30mg of Meto. In turn that would also be 6x 500mg of paracet, so 3000mg of paracetamol. Isnt that a lot? Im pretty sure that wont go well.
If were here already, where did you get your SN from? Mind sharing? I want to ctb using SN aswell.

I will pm you, doubt it will be a viable source for you tho

 

[WonderfulWeatherDIE]

I will pm you, doubt it will be a viable source for you tho

Tysm

 

[thouxan]

Tysm

It won't let me pm you, maybe your account needs to be a little older? But anyway there is a legal site in my country (eastern eu) that sells lab equipment/ingredients and you can just order it online.

 

[WonderfulWeatherDIE]

Ah yes sorry, my account isnt old enough yet
Ill contact you when its old enough

It won't let me pm you, maybe your account needs to be a little older? But anyway there is a legal site in my country (eastern eu) that sells lab equipment/ingredients and you can just order it online.

 

[ExistHarm]

honestly the main issue i think is painfulness factor. AEs arent guaranteed to prevent vomiting and you can always try again or have backup glass but without a benzo, sedative, or opioid its gonna be hell for hours before you finally pass. id say try to get some kind of xanax script, peruse the DNM, or maybe try aquiring some research chems on clearnet. also there is no reason that you should feel scared to get a meto script for a doctor, just say you have stomach issues and heard about meto from a friend and be convincing about it.

 

[thouxan]

honestly the main issue i think is painfulness factor. AEs arent guaranteed to prevent vomiting and you can always try again or have backup glass but without a benzo, sedative, or opioid its gonna be hell for hours before you finally pass. id say try to get some kind of xanax script, peruse the DNM, or maybe try aquiring some research chems on clearnet. also there is no reason that you should feel scared to get a meto script for a doctor, just say you have stomach issues and heard about meto from a friend and be convincing about it.

Supposedly you should be unconscious within 30 mins max, no? Getting a prescription would be almost impossible for me for many reasons. I am not worried about the pain as long as I can lie down comfortably on my bed and have a guaranteed death.

 

[chr74]

thanks for this thread, i was thinking of also trying SN without any type of anti-emetic but after reading this it seems that would be risky

 

[ExistHarm]

Supposedly you should be unconscious within 30 mins max, no? Getting a prescription would be almost impossible for me for many reasons. I am not worried about the pain as long as I can lie down comfortably on my bed and have a guaranteed death.

yea, but it can take up to 4 hours to actually die, and no one really knows how painful it is. accounts vary and to me i have to imagine it really fucking hurts as your organs slowly shut down from lack of oxygen reaching your tissues.

getting a benzo script is a little hard for anyone, but even a meto script? can't see just some random physician and beg for some AEs?

if you arent worried about the pain, mashallah. theres many accounts of people rawdogging SN, only a necessary fast to make your stomach and intestines clear, and no AE or sedatives, so its possible.

 

[thouxan]

yea, but it can take up to 4 hours to actually die, and no one really knows how painful it is. accounts vary and to me i have to imagine it really fucking hurts as your organs slowly shut down from lack of oxygen reaching your tissues.

getting a benzo script is a little hard for anyone, but even a meto script? can't see just some random physician and beg for some AEs?

if you arent worried about the pain, mashallah. theres many accounts of people rawdogging SN, only a necessary fast to make your stomach and intestines clear, and no AE or sedatives, so its possible.

From the threads I have seen about people succeeding with this method, no one really mentioned anything about physical pain. Yes there is anxiety, headache, nausea, fast heartrate, maybe some throat burning because of the saltiness etc. but not really any actual pain. I could be wrong tho.

I am not expecting this to be a perfect peaceful method like some people imagine. But it shouldn't be too bad from all the evidence that we have. I have never really used meds in general for my entire life, I can tolerate some pain.

In fact my main plan was to ctb by hanging, because no pain can compare to the mental pain I feel in life. But SN sounds better for me just for the fact that I can lie on my bed, even if it takes longer.

 

[chr74]

yea, but it can take up to 4 hours to actually die, and no one really knows how painful it is. accounts vary and to me i have to imagine it really fucking hurts as your organs slowly shut down from lack of oxygen reaching your tissues.

?? there's no evidence about that, are you trying to spread fear or something

from reading the resources death via SN is classed as a peaceful death with unconsciousness occurring early on, and from eye witness accounts the deaths were not painful or drawn out

 

[thouxan]

?? there's no evidence about that, are you trying to spread fear or something

from reading the resources death via SN is classed as a peaceful death with unconsciousness occurring early on, and from eye witness accounts the deaths were not painful or drawn out

Yeah that's what I have seen everywhere too. The only question is if I can keep it down, or be able to drink more in case I vomit. I am not that worried about pain at all, in fact I might not even bother with painkillers. Shit is risky af tho, I will definitely look into it more.

 

[ExistHarm]

From the threads I have seen about people succeeding with this method, no one really mentioned anything about physical pain. Yes there is anxiety, headache, nausea, fast heartrate, maybe some throat burning because of the saltiness etc. but not really any actual pain. I could be wrong tho.

I am not expecting this to be a perfect peaceful method like some people imagine. But it shouldn't be too bad from all the evidence that we have. I have never really used meds in general for my entire life, I can tolerate some pain.

In fact my main plan was to ctb by hanging, because no pain can compare to the mental pain I feel in life. But SN sounds better for me just for the fact that I can lie on my bed, even if it takes longer.

yeah i agree, the pain of life itself is quite enough already

?? there's no evidence about that, are you trying to spread fear or something

from reading the resources death via SN is classed as a peaceful death with unconsciousness occurring early on, and from eye witness accounts the deaths were not painful or drawn out

im not trying to spread fear. i just don't want people to suffer more than they need to. the truth is that we simply don't know enough to be sure it is as painless as we hope it is. it would be better to take SN with a benzo, opiate, sedative, or other kind of drug to make the bus ride a little smoother. if you can spare the time to try and acquire such drugs it will make the experience a little smoother. otherwise you are right, SN is about the best method we have currently. again, not trying to spread fear, just trying to help out people for what is already a difficult choice to make.

Yeah that's what I have seen everywhere too. The only question is if I can keep it down, or be able to drink more in case I vomit. I am not that worried about pain at all, in fact I might not even bother with painkillers. Shit is risky af tho, I will definitely look into it more.

as i said, there are many accounts of people ctb with sn with no AEs. AEs arent perfect anyway, many accounts of people puking with AEs too. anyway, good luck however it works out.

 

[chr74]

in the PPHE edition page 116, it states that of over 20 eyewitness accounts of SN deaths, some with video footage, all deaths were peaceful.

 

[ExistHarm]

in the PPHE edition page 116, it states that of over 20 eyewitness accounts of SN deaths, some with video footage, all deaths were peaceful.

peaceful x= painless. this is all im saying. probably way LESS painful probably than jumping, hanging, drowning, or whatnot, but we just can't be sure is all im saying

 

[thouxan]

peaceful x= painless. this is all im saying. probably way LESS painful probably than jumping, hanging, drowning, or whatnot, but we just can't be sure is all im saying

Yeah I get what you mean. But this method is as close to perfect as we can get for simple people who don't have the means for more expensive or complicated setups. I am strongly considering it even without AE, even if it fails there is zero risk for serious brain damage like other methods.

 

[ExistHarm]

Yeah I get what you mean. But this method is as close to perfect as we can get for simple people who don't have the means for more expensive or complicated setups. I am strongly considering it even without AE, even if it fails there is zero risk for serious brain damage like other methods.

yeah.

 

[SenseOfLoss]

All the online pharmacies in my country are useless, and all of the recommended AEs require prescrption.

You can try to get domperidone instead meto through an online pharmacy. You have to answer some questions in writing and simply state that you have migraine with nausea and vomiting... Should actually work without any problems... I hope in your country too....

 

[thouxan]

You can try to get domperidone instead meto through an online pharmacy. You have to answer some questions in writing and simply state that you have migraine with nausea and vomiting... Should actually work without any problems... I hope in your country too....

I can only get an online prescription by using the official site of my government. There is an approval process and everything shows up on my medical record, which can currently be accessed by other members of my family. Not possible for me