GoodPersonEffed
Brevity is my middle name, but my name was TL
- Jan 11, 2020
- 6,727
I'm a 48-year-old woman with a summa cum laude in communications, and straight A's in two grad school programs that included creative writing, post-colonial literature, cultural and semiotic theory, and discourse analysis.
Do you need any more schooling today? I've still got a few openings in my schedule. Although I'd prefer to keep it to the topic of this thread. Perhaps you'd care to revisit the debate you dropped or start a new one.
I'll get back to you on that.... Apologies for wrongly assuming your gender b.t.w.
EmptyArms
Student
- Dec 1, 2019
- 148
Maybe that was the last time you didnt take yourself so seriously.
My comment was good natured. Try it!
GoodPersonEffed
Brevity is my middle name, but my name was TL
- Jan 11, 2020
- 6,727
People say lots of mean and minimizing things under the guise of being good natured, and then blame the target for not liking it.
I like and respect myself as I am. No desire to negate my best self and "try" being a complacent target in order to validate your covertly bad behavior.
EmptyArms
Student
- Dec 1, 2019
- 148
I think you like to nit pick. Your combative tendencies are 100% wasted on me. Move along. I'm not interested .
GoodPersonEffed
Brevity is my middle name, but my name was TL
- Jan 11, 2020
- 6,727
If you keep your boundaries, those who [command] you will have to learn self-control for the first time instead of "other control," which has been destructive to them anyway. When they no longer have control over you, they will find a different way to relate. But as long as they can control you....they will not change.
[....]
In addition to showing us what we are responsible for, boundaries help us to define what is not on our property and what we are not responsible for. We are not, for example, responsible for other people. Nowhere are we commanded to have "other-control," although we spend a lot of time and energy trying to get it!
From Boundaries.
Apologies to the OP. I do not intend to derail the thread, but to make my boundary and autonomy clear. If someone has a strong desire for the power of the last word on this side-conversation, I will refrain from further engagement. I have no further points to make.
Sending love and healing back to this thread
Please all see the best in each other, because that's where the truth lies anyway.
Other things such as "being right" are of far lesser importance.....
Please all see the best in each other, because that's where the truth lies anyway.
Other things such as "being right" are of far lesser importance.....
Mm80
Enlightened
- May 15, 2019
- 1,604
This is ridiculous as we are meant to be a community helping each other. You spoke about power but surely listing your qualifications was to put yourself above others with almost intellectual snobbery? This forum is surely not about who has the most qualifications. We are all doing not so well and thats why we are here. You are clearly very intelligent but the person before was obviously joking and you didnt take it that way. There is nothing wrong imo with questioning things but at some point we normally come to our own conclusions. Genuine question. What are your thoughts on sn as a way to ctb ?
Spot on. Feels like an intellectual battleSending love and healing back to this thread
Please all see the best in each other, because that's where the truth lies anyway.
Other things such as "being right" are of far lesser importance.....
Dosage vs body weight
On the successful and unsuccessful list, body weight is not known. obviously something to be aware of especially on the topic of vomiting. hoping someone with decent information can chime in
On the successful and unsuccessful list, body weight is not known. obviously something to be aware of especially on the topic of vomiting. hoping someone with decent information can chime in
Mm80
Enlightened
- May 15, 2019
- 1,604
Pls look up stans guide. I dont think body weight is a big issue. May be wrong. Thanks
Here are a couple of posts :
Those 2 posts seem overall to point towards 100mg per kg as a lethal dose (and this number is mentioned in Stan's guide).
The second post suggests doubling that to 200mg per kg.
PPH states : 25g, or 35g if bodyweight > 100kg
Stan's guide states : 20g in 50ml water for regular size person / 25g in 50ml water for large person
It's probably reasonable to use 100kg for "large".
So that points towards 250mg per kg
You can think of that as a "very lethal dose", which translates into reliability.
SN + Water Amount Table
based on 250mg per kg
This information is for illustrative purposes only and can be viewed as suggestions you may wish to consider. No advice is being given. No claim is made regarding the information's correctness or suitability for any particular purpose. Any use of this information shall be entirely at your own risk.
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-megathread.1156/post-406593
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/whats-the-least-painful-method-of-suicide.27297/post-494493
Those 2 posts seem overall to point towards 100mg per kg as a lethal dose (and this number is mentioned in Stan's guide).
The second post suggests doubling that to 200mg per kg.
PPH states : 25g, or 35g if bodyweight > 100kg
Stan's guide states : 20g in 50ml water for regular size person / 25g in 50ml water for large person
It's probably reasonable to use 100kg for "large".
So that points towards 250mg per kg
You can think of that as a "very lethal dose", which translates into reliability.
SN + Water Amount Table
based on 250mg per kg
This information is for illustrative purposes only and can be viewed as suggestions you may wish to consider. No advice is being given. No claim is made regarding the information's correctness or suitability for any particular purpose. Any use of this information shall be entirely at your own risk.
Welcome.... Posted it onto its own thread now.....
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-water-amount-lookup-table-draft-version.31851/
Quarky00
Enlightened
- Dec 17, 2019
- 1,956
Shiny new data tables
This content is too important to be ignored , and opens up a new discussion . Will post in new thread .
Dear members,
I think we have another two members who successfully ctb by the SN method. I chatted with both of them and after they allegedly took it, they went silent and haven't logged in since. Out of respect for them I am not giving away their usernames but this could only be of use for those doubting the method, including myself. I hope they found peace!
I think we have another two members who successfully ctb by the SN method. I chatted with both of them and after they allegedly took it, they went silent and haven't logged in since. Out of respect for them I am not giving away their usernames but this could only be of use for those doubting the method, including myself. I hope they found peace!
f.y.i. New version of table created :
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-water-amount-lookup-table-v2.32241/
Notabadguy
Mage
- Feb 7, 2020
- 576
Quarky00, why are you posting lies? I mean:
There are at least two causes, LISTED ABOVE, of permanent damage: kidneys and more. One of them is in scientific publication. Why are you saying things that are not true?
Unsuccesful SN can left you with PERMANENT DAMAGE: kidneys, bowels, hormonal functioning... This is what it is, and anybody has the right to know that before attempting. DON'T POST LIES.
| Will I have permanent damage? | NO ā You either die or recover
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There are at least two causes, LISTED ABOVE, of permanent damage: kidneys and more. One of them is in scientific publication. Why are you saying things that are not true?
Unsuccesful SN can left you with PERMANENT DAMAGE: kidneys, bowels, hormonal functioning... This is what it is, and anybody has the right to know that before attempting. DON'T POST LIES.
Unsuccessul SN attemps most of the time were people had been discovered and rescued, or people asking themselves for help after drinking. Read about one testimonial were a man drank and woke up the day after
Obviously there can be all sorts of temporary effects, but are we aware of lasting damage ?
sickInsominic42
My destination, eternal slumber
- Feb 16, 2020
- 123
LastRide
Specialist
- Jan 23, 2020
- 369
Have you ever had an operation under general anaesthesia? I had several, I can assure you I did not feel anything AT ALL while I was unsconscious, and they were butchering away on my body parts....so I think it's safe to assume that once you've fallen unconscious, even if painful things happen to the body, since the brain cannot register them there is no pain felt.
Also some members promise to report if they failed but maybe they failed and never come back to this site. Who knows.
I offer some views on that here :
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-successful-and-unsuccessful.30211/post-578562
squirtsoda
Fallen Eagle
- Jan 19, 2020
- 324
Correctamundo, that is literally the whole point of becoming unconscious. Also why humans faint and/or go into shock under extreme pain. To protect them. Also why humans go unconscious under hypoxic conditions, both to get them horizontal and increase bloodflow to the brain, as well as decrease oxygen requirements.
Quarky00
Enlightened
- Dec 17, 2019
- 1,956
Hi @hadenough , I assume scientific articles above (in this thread) and in this PDF --
Are almost identical ?
(Great work!)
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-scientific-articles.31679/
Are almost identical ?
(Great work!)
GoodPersonEffed
Brevity is my middle name, but my name was TL
- Jan 11, 2020
- 6,727
I read for a different but similar method that it's better to sit up rather than lie down. Do you think with SN that one would lose consciousness more quicky if they were sitting up?
squirtsoda
Fallen Eagle
- Jan 19, 2020
- 324
Not sure, I think the difference would be negligible in the grand scheme of things.
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