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picklemick

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Just curious what people generally assume the success percentages are?

1.Following Stans Guide

2. What are success percentages estimated without an antiemetic?

Having a difficult time finding in Canada. Any source help would be very helpful. SN is in express post.
 
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1. I assume around 99% if there's no intervention.
 
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It seems to me, 99% vomit. That's the idea of having a second glassful prepared.
 
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Thanks for this. I am thinking in buying it.
 
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1. I assume around 99% if there's no intervention.

99% is too high. Even without intervention, you have to account for vomitting and pureness of SN.
 
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Last night someone CTB via SN, @TrynaChingMyself , he followed two-day guide. i think he did CTB
 
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Last night someone CTB via SN, @TrynaChingMyself , he followed two-day guide. i think he did CTB
Yes he seemed very prepared. I followed the post. I dont have that much access to resources
 
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I would stil assume theres some chance of vomiting?
You can vomit and still die, because you'll have ingested some, some of it will work its way around, and the lethal dose can be much lower than what you took. Drinking the second glass is meant to be the guarantee. I assume no amount of vomit saves you then.
99% is too high. Even without intervention, you have to account for vomitting and pureness of SN.
I always though high purity was part of the guide. I would assume it anyway otherwise its changing the question imo.
Preparing and consuming a 2nd glass accounts for vomiting.
 
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You can vomit and still die, because you'll have ingested some, some of it will work its way around, and the lethal dose can be much lower than what you took. Drinking the second glass is meant to be the guarantee. I assume no amount of vomit saves you then.

I always though high purity was part of the guide. I would assume it anyway otherwise its changing the question imo.
Preparing and consuming a 2nd glass accounts for vomiting.
why wouldn't you vomit the second one?. once I vomit once I usually don't stop
 
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why wouldn't you vomit the second one?. once I vomit once I usually don't stop
i think you have to settle down first before drinking the second SN. Like everyone has said and to my understanding, it will only guarantee/expedite your CTB since the first 'dose' is already in your system.
 
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i think you have to settle down first before drinking the second SN. Like everyone has said and to my understanding, it will only guarantee/expedite your CTB since the first 'dose' is already in your system.
So even with out an antiemetic as long as I'm committed to take the second drink you think I'm good?
 
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So even with out an antiemetic as long as I'm committed to take the second drink you think I'm good?
To my understanding and after re-reading Stan's guide, theres one drug that you need disregard everything else but the antiemetics. I suppose, you really need AE man hence the emphasis on that drug by Stan.
 
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To my understanding and after re-reading Stan's guide, theres one drug that you need disregard everything else but the antiemetics. I suppose, you really need AE man hence the emphasis on that drug by Stan.
Yeah that's the only one I can't get my hands on
 
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Just curious what people generally assume the success percentages are?

1.Following Stans Guide

2. What are success percentages estimated without an antiemetic?

Having a difficult time finding in Canada. Any source help would be very helpful. SN is in express post.

I would say minimum 80-100% success rate following stans guide as long as you do not get caught

Without an anti emetic i would say 20-100% successful if you do not vomit and drink the second glass
 
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if 99% vomit how is it an effective method
Because you drink MORE that you have prepared, so that more of the SN gets absorbed into your system in order to get up to that lethal amount. Some of it ALWAYS gets absorbed into your system, even if you vomit very quickly after drinking. It is a prudent measure to take, if you really want to be successful, to have at least another glass mixed up and ready to go. Hell, I'd have 4 or 5 glasses mixed up and ready to go. Every time you vomit, chug another one down.
 
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I'll just start licking up puke if I have to
 
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Because you drink MORE that you have prepared, so that more of the SN gets absorbed into your system in order to get up to that lethal amount. Some of it ALWAYS gets absorbed into your system, even if you vomit very quickly after drinking. It is a prudent measure to take, if you really want to be successful, to have at least another glass mixed up and ready to go. Hell, I'd have 4 or 5 glasses mixed up and ready to go. Every time you vomit, chug another one down.
this is my plan, i dont have anti-emetics so im going to have to actively keep shoving more down my throat to make up for the stuff i upchuck. maybe its not the prettiest way to go but hey, whatever works
 
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this is my plan, i dont have anti-emetics so im going to have to actively keep shoving more down my throat to make up for the stuff i upchuck. maybe its not the prettiest way to go but hey, whatever works
Although, probably not the method (SN) I would choose, unless my other plans fail, but, anyway, I 've read here on SS that one can use OTC medications ( Motion Sickness Medications ) for motion sickness in place of a prescription anti-emetic for the vomiting with good results.
 
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I would say minimum 80-100% success rate following stans guide as long as you do not get caught

Without an anti emetic i would say 20-100% successful if you do not vomit and drink the second glass
I'm not sure why you would think 20%?
 
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Although, probably not the method (SN) I would choose, unless my other plans fail, but, anyway, I 've read here on SS that one can use OTC medications ( Motion Sickness Medications ) for motion sickness in place of a prescription anti-emetic for the vomiting with good results.
was planning on smoking a few bowls in advance which might help a bit but i dont think its foolproof by any means
 
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was planning on smoking a few bowls in advance which might help a bit but i dont think its foolproof by any means
I smoked dope for a lot of years, all through high school, and into my mid-twenties, until I just quit and never smoked it again. I was a burn-out in high school and we drank a lot, too. We'd drink everything, anything, even mixing six different boozes in a beer bong and downing it all at once. Needless to say, that type of concoction can make you pretty sick, and it made me sick all the time. Even smoking all the dope I did, and it was a LOT, the dope never stopped me from vomiting from all of the booze I drank, not even when I just drank regular shots and beer, not even in a beer bong all at once. I know they prescribe dope to help with the nausea that some cancer treatment causes patients, but I for one never experienced that help from it. I think you'd be better off getting one of those OTC medications for motion sickness, myself.
 
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I smoked dope for a lot of years, all through high school, and into my mid-twenties, until I just quit and never smoked it again. I was a burn-out in high school and we drank a lot, too. We'd drink everything, anything, even mixing six different boozes in a beer bong and downing it all at once. Needless to say, that type of concoction can make you pretty sick, and it made me sick all the time. Even smoking all the dope I did, and it was a LOT, the dope never stopped me from vomiting from all of the booze I drank, not even when I just drank regular shots and beer, not even in a beer bong all at once. I know they prescribe dope to help with the nausea that some cancer treatment causes patients, but I for one never experienced that help from it. I think you'd be better off getting one of those OTC medications for motion sickness, myself.
LOL i didn't know people still called weed dope
 
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I'm not sure why you would think 20%?

Yeah 20% is too low, i would say 50-100% success rate without an anti emetic if you do not vomit which is very likely.

But success rates are very hard to calculate so this is all just guessing on my part. As long as 3g of SN out of the 50g in 2 glasses successfully enters your system that should be enough for most people to ctb.
 
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Anyone ever ask someone who failed SN what it was like? Puking constantly or just a little?
 
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Anyone ever ask someone who failed SN what it was like? Puking constantly or just a little?
Yes the symptoms are mild for most people. If you can not tolerate 20 minutes of discomfort like headache, feeling sick etc then sn is not for you. There are hardly any methods that are not painful or at least uncomfortable so you must mentally prepare yourself for this.

If there was a pain free method that is easy everyone would only use that option. But SN is probably one of the best options that is accessible, cheap and that works.
 
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ive had
Yes the symptoms are mild for most people. If you can not tolerate 20 minutes of discomfort like headache, feeling sick etc then sn is not for you. There are hardly any methods that are not painful or at least uncomfortable so you must mentally prepare yourself for this.

If there was a pain free method that is easy everyone would only use that option. But SN is probably one of the best options that is accessible, cheap and that works.
ive had migraines all my life should be a breeze
 
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maybe you can get dramamine or domperidone? someone had found an online pharmacy that sent meto without a prescription but I don't remember exactly
 
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So even with out an antiemetic as long as I'm committed to take the second drink you think I'm good?
Nah to be on the safe side I would say the "guarantee" is with antiemetic and following the guide to the letter. I don't know if there is one without, but for the reasons above, its possible.

I don't believe anyone has ever posted on here they took the second drink and survived. But they also follow the guide. I was in conversation with one person off-site who vomited then prepared and took 2nd shot almost immediately after and they apparently ctb.
Yes the symptoms are mild for most people. If you can not tolerate 20 minutes of discomfort like headache, feeling sick etc then sn is not for you. There are hardly any methods that are not painful or at least uncomfortable so you must mentally prepare yourself for this.

If there was a pain free method that is easy everyone would only use that option. But SN is probably one of the best options that is accessible, cheap and that works.
Yeah this is what I don't get why people worry too much about the taste of SN or the discomfort. I mean maybe if you think you can't get the drink down.
It's 20 minutes of mild discomfort compared to all the potential suffering if you continue living.

One of the main reasons I haven't ctb yet is the finality of it, if I could get over that then taking SN is not worse than what I go through everyday anyway.
 
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