Discussion SN Risks at Home vs Hotel

[diyCTB]

Found someone's post on failed CTB attempt. It was at home I think. Reported SN tasting better than expected, feeling no sickness, a lot of burping and after 40 mins noticing lips, toe nails and fingernails going blue. Person woke up afternoon the next day.

Seems that they received SN in a container that went bad or just wasn't pure enough from seller that many bought from before. It wasn't strong enough to keep body from keeping up with cleansing itself. Normally it's 15 when you start turning pale and go unconscious... 40 minutes is when you are supposed to die.

This only complicates it. I don't want to take it at home because I'm not alone. Yet... But when I will I don't know if by that time SN will be good, even in sealed container. At least if failed, I won't be discovered and reported.

Hotel is a good option but bad SN would mean failure due to potential discovery by staff member. DND door signs should not be relied upon. Jamming door from inside? Might rise suspicions too.

So it's not possible to make sure SN is good without opening the bottle. Then how to make sure it's good after opening the bottle when time comes to take it? How to know without any delays that it's good to take it and not botch the CTB?

Botched attempt would make my life a hell so I can't fail.

 

[SuicidallyCurious]

Found someone's post on failed CTB attempt. It was at home I think. Reported SN tasting better than expected, feeling no sickness, a lot of burping and after 40 mins noticing lips, toe nails and fingernails going blue. Person woke up afternoon the next day.

Seems that they received SN in a container that went bad or just wasn't pure enough from seller that many bought from before. It wasn't strong enough to keep body from keeping up with cleansing itself. Normally it's 15 when you start turning pale and go unconscious... 40 minutes is when you are supposed to die.

This only complicates it. I don't want to take it at home because I'm not alone. Yet... But when I will I don't know if by that time SN will be good, even in sealed container. At least if failed, I won't be discovered and reported.

Hotel is a good option but bad SN would mean failure due to potential discovery by staff member. DND door signs should not be relied upon. Jamming door from inside? Might rise suspicions too.

So it's not possible to make sure SN is good without opening the bottle. Then how to make sure it's good after opening the bottle when time comes to take it? How to know without any delays that it's good to take it and not botch the CTB?

Botched attempt would make my life a hell so I can't fail.

I don't understand why people think DND sign can't be relied upon?

Should work unless some asshole removed it

And if they come in and see you passed out they are going to leave unless for some reason they really really see you are blue as hell and they are nosy but in that case you should be dead or well on your way to death
anyway

Only reason you're going to get caught in hotel is that your vomiting is so violent and so sustained that someone calls you in to the front desk, but that's so unlikely because hotels are always full of drunks especially in tourist areas or cities and this behavior is expected

 

[Lifeless mindset]

Having SN from more than one source seems like a valid option. Also not opening anyone bottles of SN until ready to use. Also having aquarium test + blood test ready once its time to CTB. Whichever brand of SN shows the best results is what I would use.

 

[diyCTB]

I don't understand why people think DND sign can't be relied upon?

Should work unless some asshole removed it

And if they come in and see you passed out they are going to leave unless for some reason they really really see you are blue as hell and they are nosy but in that case you should be dead or well on your way to death
anyway

Have been cases in my country where they disregard DND and come in. Don't want them to when I am in the middle of something very important.

Having SN from more than one source seems like a valid option. Also not opening anyone bottles of SN until ready to use. Also having aquarium test + blood test ready once its time to CTB. Whichever brand of SN shows the best results is what I would use.

I see test kits that are sold locally measure 0-5ppm. Is this correct measurement type and range?

 

[SuicidallyCurious]

Have been cases in my country where they disregard DND and come in. Don't want them to when I am in the middle of something very important.


I see test kits that are sold locally measure 0-5ppm. Is this correct measurement type and range?

There are times where they will come in but it's rare. Usually it's because there's like a hotel maintenance or safety thing that's non negotiable and they try to warn you of those in the day ahead.

If someone attempts CTB right after check in that basically leaves a full 24h ish for the SN to kill you before the clean staff would theoretically come. If it didn't work by then it probably wasn't going to work anyway

 

[diyCTB]

If someone attempts CTB right after check in that basically leaves a full 24h ish for the SN to kill you before the clean staff would theoretically come. If it didn't work by then it probably wasn't going to work anyway

Which is risky and a bad idea unless it's a lousy private hotel with no staff and only manager who checks once every few days.
I don't know of such hotel and given that private hotels are not equipped to deal with suicide cases the way chain hotels are I don't feel like destroying someone's livelihood. Unless there is no other way for me.

 

[SuicidallyCurious]

Which is risky and a bad idea unless it's a lousy private hotel with no staff and only manager who checks once every few days.
I don't know of such hotel and given that private hotels are not equipped to deal with suicide cases the way chain hotels are I don't feel like destroying someone's livelihood. Unless there is no other way for me.

Why is it risky?

I don't understand what you are trying to stay. What is a "lousy private hotel"?

You're not going to destroy someone's livelihood by CTB in their hotel. That's what giving them your credit card or deposit is for.

SN is fast acting , reports seem to say it takes a few hours at most and usually less than that. The only way it's really risky is if you have seizures and you're so loud the front desk gets called by someone else who is annoyed, but that's probably not going to happen. There are prostitutes and couples who fuck very loudly in hotels with bad soundproofing and are never bothered to turn the noise down

 

[peepo]

Also consider the sound of vomiting. It can be easily heard by neighbours in hotel or at home.

This is why I may consider doing in a car. Have couple of buckets ready just incase.

 

[Lifeless mindset]

Have been cases in my country where they disregard DND and come in. Don't want them to when I am in the middle of something very important.


I see test kits that are sold locally measure 0-5ppm. Is this correct measurement type and range?

I think that range is too low. I think it should be 500-1000 ppm but I could be completely wrong.

 

[diyCTB]

Why is it risky?

I don't understand what you are trying to stay. What is a "lousy private hotel"?

You're not going to destroy someone's livelihood by CTB in their hotel. That's what giving them your credit card or deposit is for.

Private hotel that does not belong to a chain of hotels where lazy manager does most of the work or where manager has a couple of workers that are not paid well. I am not rich to cover reputational and possibly collateral damage and I prefer my brother to have remaining money in my bank.

 

[SuicidallyCurious]

Private hotel that does not belong to a chain of hotels where lazy manager does most of the work or where manager has a couple of workers that are not paid well. I am not rich to cover reputational and possibly collateral damage and I prefer my brother to have remaining money in my bank.

Your estate isn't going to be sued because you CTB in a hotel. The legal fees aren't worth the potential recovery

 

[Mobius1launch]

As a former minimum-wage night auditor for several big hotels, please don't CTB in one. People like me and the cleaning staff don't deserve that.

 

[SuicidallyCurious]

As a former minimum-wage night auditor for several big hotels, please don't CTB in one. People like me and the cleaning staff don't deserve that.

Imagine someone who CTB around New Years or other dates where the hotel is likely to be fully booked

When the room can't be checked in due to the CTB the guest is gonna lose it if there are no additional rooms

 

[DontGiveAshiit]

good option will be to rent a room in one of those pay-per-day rent places. or maybe airbnb? never been in one but I guess its better since no one checked on you the entire time you are there . just rent it for 2-4 days and you are all alone

 

[needed_]

good option will be to rent a room in one of those pay-per-day rent places. or maybe airbnb? never been in one but I guess its better since no one checked on you the entire time you are here. just rent it for 2-4 days and you are all alone

I understand the idea, but isn't this gonna traumatise the shit out of whoever owns the airbnb? of course it depends on the airbnb but lots of them are owned by some private people and imagine you offer your apartment for rent and at some point there's a guest in it who committed suicide.. and probably that guest will have been already dead for maybe 2 days

 

[DontGiveAshiit]

I understand the idea, but isn't this gonna traumatise the shit out of whoever owns the airbnb? of course it depends on the airbnb but lots of them are owned by some private people and imagine you offer your apartment for rent and at some point there's a guest in it who committed suicide.. and probably that guest will have been already dead for maybe 2 days

well if you care so much to take into consideration every single human that might get hurt, than sure, not good idea for you. some people dont give a shit, like me.
If anything, my suicide will probably hurt 1000x times more for my mom and family. so really, the airbnb owner is like at the bottom of my interest.
anyway im not gonna do it since i have my own place. but OP can consider it if he wants

 

[needed_]

well if you care so much to take into consideration every single human that might get hurt, than sure, not good idea for you. some people dont give a shit, like me.
If anything, my suicide will probably hurt 1000x times more for my mom and family. so really, the airbnb owner is like at the bottom of my interest.
anyway im not gonna do it since i have my own place. but OP can consider it if he wants

I totally get you, I didn't mean it as an accusation, sorry if it appeared to be one. I absolutely relate with the thought that lots of us have suffered our whole lives and at some point there's just no other solution than being "egoistic" one time.

 

[diyCTB]

As a former minimum-wage night auditor for several big hotels, please don't CTB in one. People like me and the cleaning staff don't deserve that.

Cleaning what? The remains of my body? My brain? Is it what SN does?

Some advice not to CTB at home because it will traumatize family, others advice not to CTB at train station because it will traumatize the operator, others advice not to CTB in forest because it will make mess to clean up for animals etc.

Maybe I should stay and suffer?

People do way worse things in a hotel than than those who drink SN.

I understand the idea, but isn't this gonna traumatise the shit out of whoever owns the airbnb? of course it depends on the airbnb but lots of them are owned by some private people and imagine you offer your apartment for rent and at some point there's a guest in it who committed suicide.. and probably that guest will have been already dead for maybe 2 days

You are right and that's why it will be the last on my list. I was thinking about it in the beginning but most people didn't advice due to consequences for airbnb host. Forest sounded nice but I have not car and I won't be able to keep calm in an unfamiliar environment at night.

 

[LookieLou]

Why is it risky?

I don't understand what you are trying to stay. What is a "lousy private hotel"?

You're not going to destroy someone's livelihood by CTB in their hotel. That's what giving them your credit card or deposit is for.

SN is fast acting , reports seem to say it takes a few hours at most and usually less than that. The only way it's really risky is if you have seizures and you're so loud the front desk gets called by someone else who is annoyed, but that's probably not going to happen. There are prostitutes and couples who fuck very loudly in hotels with bad soundproofing and are never bothered to turn the noise down

1. If you fall or make noise during your attempt, which is what happened to me,they'll break in to make sure you're okay if you don't respond to phone calls and knocks on the door.
2. My hotel charged me $1500 to clean the room afterwards. They have the right to bill you or your family for cleanup.
3. Don't think that paying for your room rental makes them feel like they're not responsible for their guests. Quite the opposite.

CBT and it's unexpected consequences is difficult anywhere and will be really traumatic to anyone who finds you whatever the outcome.

 

[Seiba]

As a former minimum-wage night auditor for several big hotels, please don't CTB in one. People like me and the cleaning staff don't deserve that.

As opposed to doing so in home and otherwise risking failure. Sorry, but if it would be any choice of mine I would pick a hotel. Someone inherently has to swallow the trauma in this system be it family or hotel staff.

 

[Interloper]

1. If you fall or make noise during your attempt, which is what happened to me,they'll break in to make sure you're okay if you don't respond to phone calls and knocks on the door.

Damn how small was the hotel that you used? Or did you get unlucky with a staff member walking past at the wrong moment?

 

[Theanswer]

I am definitely using a hotel. I hear the morality coming from folks but that's your beliefs, spin. And, in my country, most of the higher end chains no longer offer daily housekeeping of rooms (COVID). Sometimes they will, if you ask, but, otherwise, most of these hotels don't offer housekeeping at all during your stay up to seven days. Others are on the fifth day.... Most higher end chains have their housekeeping policies on their website. So I am not worried about being disturbed with housekeeping, etc. Using the higher end "hoping" that there will at least some soundproofing in the construction so I'm told. I am worried about the noise from vomiting being heard but like others have said here and other threads, it likely will not be a big deal or heard.

 

[diyCTB]

@Theanswer I was thinking of doing it in a bath and tying my legs with my belt. Also using plastic bag of middle rigidity for vomiting. At least not using one that rustles when it moves. It would make noise but it would also cause sound to permeate more.

 

[madebrief]

@Theanswer I was thinking of doing it in a bath and tying my legs with my belt. Also using plastic bag of middle rigidity for vomiting. At least not using one that rustles when it moves. It would make noise but it would also cause sound to permeate more.

I would suggest you are as comfortable as possible. I don't think tying your legs with a belt is comfortable and I actually think it will increase your anxiety levels. Each to your own though. I believe lying down in a bed or bath being relaxed is safe enough.

 

[Graytaichi]

Hotel . Unless there is no one at home . U might talk and make alot of unknown noise. And alot failed becasue of intervemtion. If u are unsure give yourself time to do it .

 

[diyCTB]

I don't think tying your legs with a belt is comfortable

U might talk and make alot of unknown noise.

This is what belt is for. To hold my legs from making noise from jerking body. I could turn on radio with porn audio track playing to deter anyone from entering too. But what if they suspect something strange if they notice porn playing for hours? Hotel with loud construction work underway is a good option but not easy to find.

 

[madebrief]

Hotel . Unless there is no one at home . U might talk and make alot of unknown noise. And alot failed becasue of intervemtion. If u are unsure give yourself time to do it .

I would not say that "a lot has failed because of intervention". Intervention is the main cause of failure but there are far much more successes. So much more. Sounds might be made but it is quite minimal. You will just need to stay in one place and not move around your room after drinking SN.

This is what belt is for. To hold my legs from making noise from jerking body. I could turn on radio with porn audio track playing to deter anyone from entering too. But what if they suspect something strange if they notice porn playing for hours? Hotel with loud construction work underway is a good option but not easy to find.

Porn audio track is an awful option. Someone will complain. They can tell the different between sex and porn audio. Just play music or have normal tv on. Don't overthink too much, really. Sounds is normal.
I don't like the idea of tying your legs because if one leg want to move so it is naturally more comfortable, you end up having to move both legs and will feel awkward and then increase risk of making uncomfortable noises. Everyone I've seen who have drunk SN have been very comfortable.

 

[Graytaichi]

@makebelief

Corrrect thats what im thinking. With a 2nd glass, 25gr enough to convert all my blood im afraid so.

 

[diyCTB]

@Graytaichi The less grams the less is the likelihood of vomiting?

 

[Graytaichi]

@Graytaichi The less grams the less is the likelihood of vomiting?

I know the risk of taking more the risk of vomitting. But also no one has survive with a 2nd glass. It depends on your body risk of vomitting. There is a pro and cons . Not looking for peaceful one but a sure one.