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Catch-22

Catch-22

But in the end it doesn't even matter...😢
Aug 19, 2019
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SN regimen

How much time will I need to be alone for SN regimen? Weighing out, mixing, drinking etc

I will fast for 8 hours probably take some Metro and then no liquids 2 hours before. An hour before I'll take some pain medication and benzos. The ones that I have are Klonopin and not super fast acting but I'll take enough to settle my nerves but maybe after the SN I will skip it because I don't want to pass out if I need to drink a second glass. And even though they're not fast acting if I were to take the conversion of what benzo is recommended and convert it the Klonopin I definitely would knock me out with no luck of drinking a second glass. I don't know what the percentage of people actually vomit I think most people vomit a little bit I think I heard you only need to keep down 5 g's out of 25.

I know I will only have maybe 3 hours max alone and will that be enough? I know I'm going to be beyond nervous to open up the vacuum seal package measure it carefully. I think that will probably take me the longest time. And then after I drink it I wonder how long I really need time alone for it to be successful? I think 40 minutes to Max. A previous poster was giving details after they had swallowed the SN and it seemed like they were awake for maybe 14 minutes before they quit posting I don't recall them saying that they vomited I'm not sure if they actually had an authentic product. 14 minutes is a long time to try to fight SI so if I don't vomit I would definitely try to take more Klonopin.

I thought maybe I could measure the SN first maybe a week or so ahead of time and put it into two ziplocs weighing 25 g then I could just add it to water. Does anybody know how long ahead of time I could measure it out without it starting to turn? Although I kind of rather just rather do it in one day because I will be anxiety ridden but breaking it up if possible I think will be the best idea for me.


I'm not sure how fast it turns and if it will be safe in zip locks and not in the vacuum seal package that it came in. I've had the vacuum sealed package that it came in for a year and a half. My metro expired in February but I think it should still be good and I could probably take a few extra. Does anybody know if it's a myth or not that you're not supposed to use a metal spoon?

I have everything I have the metros, benzos, SN, large cups and a scale. It's just timing how to get that right with the benzos that's why I think after I take the initial to calm myself I think I should just not take any afterwards because I cannot miss out on taking a second glass if needed and I guarantee if I take the amount stated even in klonopin I will be passed out.

Most of the side effects I've heard about I pretty much experience on a daily basis for many illnesses so I'm sure they wil just be amplified. My biggest fear it's failing because I won't get a second chance I will be put away because I'm old so no chance for recovering I'm getting a second chance.

Since I don't know the exact time I will be leaving I will just state my regimen without exact time


8 hours before eat last meal possibly take a couple Metro


2 hours before no liquid

1 hour prior take gabapentin for pain and Klonopin with small sip of water

40 minutes prior take 10 mg * 3 of Metro

40 minutes before mix 24 g of SN with 50 ml of water in tall plastic cups'

I wonder how much you would have to vomit before it would be necessary to I think the second glass?

That's where it gets tricky.. should I drink the second cup if I vomit and hold off on the Klonopin so you do not pass out and miss the the opportunity to drink the second? I think these are all things I might have to figure out as you go. I've yet to figure out a way set in stone because you don't know how your body is going to react and how much you're going to vomit.

Lay back and pray!


I know I posted before but I've not had the exact right opportunity line up.. I have very little time alone and the timing has never been there. I wish that I did not have to do this alone and I had a partner. At this stage I have pretty bad cognitive issues and they're only getting worse so this will not be easy in any way. But I know I cannot take anymore of this pain that I've had for decades every year it just gets worse and new diseases form. if I do not go soon I will he put away one way or the other. And I will never have a chance. F#ck my narcissistic family especially my elderly mom that is just waiting to put me away. When you realize your life never really mattered to them.. But I'd rather stand in judgment being who I am than who they are.

Thank you for reading my post! ❤️ I would appreciate if anyone could answer the few questions that I had regarding if you cannot use a metal spoon to stir, how much alone time I would need and how long would the SN stay stable if I transferred it from the vacuum sealed plastic bag into ziplocs so I can have it pre-measured and ready to go.
 
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Feb 16, 2025
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- death with SN occurs between 40 minutes and 4 hours, so you need at least 4 hours to be sure.
+ the time for weighing out, mixing, preparing etc. --> you said you are going to mix it 40 minutes before
= 4 hours and 40 minutes in total at least


- regarding the SN purity: if transferred to ziploc bags - a week before - i suppose it should not lose its purity at all. as long as it is properly closed.
in the end of february, a friend of mine transferred the SN from the original transparent envelope to a sort of "lunch box". he succesfully CTBed with the SN coming from the box in the end of april. he even fainted in 5 minutes.

if you want to be sure, maybe you should consider something similar to an amazon LDPE lab container instead of a ziploc bag? i transferred like 200 g of SN in one of them the same day i opened the original envelope. i didn't manage to transfer more - the opening was too tight.
unfortunately, the remaining 800 g stayed in the original envelope for two-three months and were not properly closed. i finally transferred those 800 g in kind of "squared launch boxes".
then i tasted both of them:
the SN in the squared launch box tasted bitter, the SN in the LDPE container tasted salty so the latter must be pure.


- regarding the metal spoon: yes it must be a myth. the friend of mine i've mentioned before, transferred the SN using a metal spoon, and didn't tell me anything strange occured.




also...
regarding the quantity of SN you have to keep down I have no idea and today I was wondering that too, i think maybe I'll drink half of the second cup in case vomit occurs. and only if I really vomit too much I'll drink the entire cup. I have no strength to do more research.
and yes if you don't vomit and you are still awake in 15 minutes I think you could take more klonopin, it's really slow acting... (yes it depends on individuals, keep in mind i've taken lexotan for 9 months - i've taken rivotril/klonopin only like four times and didn't really do much). it really depends on how you react to it. how many times have you taken it? do you take it regularly?
and yes the meto should still work, it just may have lost a little bit in efficiency so you could just take some extra dosage.


and yes i also experience most of the SN symptoms on a daily basis due to my physical illnesses.
and i also fear failure.


and i also wish that i did not have to do this alone and i had a partner, at least an online one, if you want you can DM me and see what we can do

and fuck this cursed life fuck everything
yes.

and sorry for my incorrect english
 
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death with SN occurs between 40 minutes and 4 hours
Isn't it usually over in like 1 hour though? I wonder is it common for it to take longer than that.
 
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Stan's Guide and Vizzy's Guide (SN BIBLE) say between 40 minutes and 4 hours

i would be glad to hear it usually takes 1 hour; have you got more information?
 
swankysoup

swankysoup

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Stan's Guide and Vizzy's Guide (SN BIBLE) say between 40 minutes and 4 hours

i would be glad to hear it usually takes 1 hour; have you got more information?
I read some reports when a death was monitored, i remember one ending at around 45 minutes when total unconsciousness was observed. But idk if that was truly the point of no return yet.
 
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I hope im not dying in 4 hours, that would be ridiculous and also makes the method complicated.
 
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Catch-22

But in the end it doesn't even matter...😢
Aug 19, 2019
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- death with SN occurs between 40 minutes and 4 hours, so you need at least 4 hours to be sure.
+ the time for weighing out, mixing, preparing etc. --> you said you are going to mix it 40 minutes before
= 4 hours and 40 minutes in total at least


- regarding the SN purity: if transferred to ziploc bags - a week before - i suppose it should not lose its purity at all. as long as it is properly closed.
in the end of february, a friend of mine transferred the SN from the original transparent envelope to a sort of "lunch box". he succesfully CTBed with the SN coming from the box in the end of april. he even fainted in 5 minutes.

if you want to be sure, maybe you should consider something similar to an amazon LDPE lab container instead of a ziploc bag? i transferred like 200 g of SN in one of them the same day i opened the original envelope. i didn't manage to transfer more - the opening was too tight.
unfortunately, the remaining 800 g stayed in the original envelope for two-three months and were not properly closed. i finally transferred those 800 g in kind of "squared launch boxes".
then i tasted both of them:
the SN in the squared launch box tasted bitter, the SN in the LDPE container tasted salty so the latter must be pure.


- regarding the metal spoon: yes it must be a myth. the friend of mine i've mentioned before, transferred the SN using a metal spoon, and didn't tell me anything strange occured.




also...
regarding the quantity of SN you have to keep down I have no idea and today I was wondering that too, i think maybe I'll drink half of the second cup in case vomit occurs. and only if I really vomit too much I'll drink the entire cup. I have no strength to do more research.
and yes if you don't vomit and you are still awake in 15 minutes I think you could take more klonopin, it's really slow acting... (yes it depends on individuals, keep in mind i've taken lexotan for 9 months - i've taken rivotril/klonopin only like four times and didn't really do much). it really depends on how you react to it. how many times have you taken it? do you take it regularly?
and yes the meto should still work, it just may have lost a little bit in efficiency so you could just take some extra dosage.


and yes i also experience most of the SN symptoms on a daily basis due to my physical illnesses.
and i also fear failure.


and i also wish that i did not have to do this alone and i had a partner, at least an online one, if you want you can DM me and see what we can do

and fuck this cursed life fuck everything
yes.

and sorry for my incorrect english
Sorry I'm just getting back to you now I haven't been able to be on here. My mind right now is in a haze from pain and a lot of medication but when I can get it together I'll send you a DM. I appreciate you taking the time to answer my questions. As you can see I've been on here a long time but had to dispose of SN in the past because I didn't have it stored properly. Not knowing any better. Opportunity has not lined up. I don't live alone and I don't even know a 4 hours alone is even POSSIBLE at this point. I might have close to that but that's if I take one day to measure it all out and get that out of the way and then the other just to ingest the SN. I guess I can just measure it out even if I'm not alone I was thinking maybe doing in the shower trying to sit down and do it over the drain if any spilled then I could just wash it down. That gives me so much anxiety just thinking about that for some reason anyway I will try to DM you later. Once again thank you
 
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you're welcome and i'm in extrema agony too right now, i'll respond to this post as soon as i can
 
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Catch-22

Catch-22

But in the end it doesn't even matter...😢
Aug 19, 2019
295
Stan's Guide and Vizzy's Guide (SN BIBLE) say between 40 minutes and 4 hours

i would be glad to hear it usually takes 1 hour; have you got more information?
I think after you drink it I've heard people are unconscious is really 5 minutes and I think possibly gone between 20 minutes I would think 40 minutes max. I'm not sure if I've ever heard about 4 hours but obviously we don't have that research and it's possible. I think some people that have certain conditions that it takes longer for their stomach to empty that may be consideration but I don't think I've ever heard of 4 hours and I hope the heck not. My mom generally doesn't check on me. So I could literally be in my room and she would not even think if I didn't make a peep for 24 hours but my cat if she knows something's going on with me will scratch the heck out of my door which might alert her. But her being a covert malignant narcissist there's probably a part of her that wouldn't care if I'm gone
you're welcome and i'm in extrema agony too right now, i'll respond to this post as soon as i can
No worries whenever you can. I hope your pain eases..
 
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Ideally a whole 24 hours, maybe overnight even will work. I'm thinking of checking in for 24 hours in a hotel, but I also like the idea of doing it in a forest.
 
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overload

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Feb 16, 2025
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Sorry I'm just getting back to you now I haven't been able to be on here. My mind right now is in a haze from pain and a lot of medication but when I can get it together I'll send you a DM. I appreciate you taking the time to answer my questions. As you can see I've been on here a long time but had to dispose of SN in the past because I didn't have it stored properly. Not knowing any better. Opportunity has not lined up. I don't live alone and I don't even know a 4 hours alone is even POSSIBLE at this point. I might have close to that but that's if I take one day to measure it all out and get that out of the way and then the other just to ingest the SN. I guess I can just measure it out even if I'm not alone I was thinking maybe doing in the shower trying to sit down and do it over the drain if any spilled then I could just wash it down. That gives me so much anxiety just thinking about that for some reason anyway I will try to DM you later. Once again thank you
i'm sorry you had to re order your SN.
so you should split the two activities,
so first divide the SN (and only then CTB). i would recommend you transfer the SN on a kitchen table / desk with baking paper on it so that any debris is under control and you can discard them easily through the rubbish (i did this way). but of course it's a personal thing and you should do the way u feel it's better for u.
i would avoid measuring it out when you're not alone - unless you have a personal space which is not the case for the shower - your mother could enter the bathroom, but again it's personal and tied to your routine
yes the advantage of the shower is that you could drain the debris in case there should be any
i feel you, its was the same exact fucking thing for me. just the thought of dividing it gave me more anxiety but i had to. and i went for the desk with the baking paper on it
wishing you much luck for the measuring
I think after you drink it I've heard people are unconscious is really 5 minutes and I think possibly gone between 20 minutes I would think 40 minutes max. I'm not sure if I've ever heard about 4 hours but obviously we don't have that research and it's possible. I think some people that have certain conditions that it takes longer for their stomach to empty that may be consideration but I don't think I've ever heard of 4 hours and I hope the heck not. My mom generally doesn't check on me. So I could literally be in my room and she would not even think if I didn't make a peep for 24 hours but my cat if she knows something's going on with me will scratch the heck out of my door which might alert her. But her being a covert malignant narcissist there's probably a part of her that wouldn't care if I'm gone
the male friend of the mine i mentioned (the one of the metal spoon) fainted in 5 minutes, but he was overweight, didn't leave the house much, and so on.
a female friend, instead, who was very athletic and always on the go, it took exactly 20 minutes for her to faint.
Stan's guide says there's no way for an individual to predict then the symptoms will happen, but your pre existing health status is crucial.
i've heard people had to wait like 40 minutes or even 1 hour, for their symptoms to occur, maybe i just heard wrong. anyway i don't think it should take longer than that for the symptoms to occur, maybe the process of death yes, up to 4 hours. that's what scares the most - the fact that it may take so long to die that someone could find you at the 2nd-3rd hour and ur left with permanent brain damage. but i guess we have to take that risk. after all i think probably most people are gone in circa 1 hour .
me and my grandma have a room one in front of the other. luckily she's almost competely deaf, she only responds to very low frequencies (when you open the entrance door, or when you slam the toilet seat), so i'm safe i suppose. i even did two noise tests
()
( this one in loop too)
she didn't react even when she was literally on the verge of my door (cause the bathroom is between my room and hers)
your cat might be a problem, don't underestimate that risk. you never know whether your mother is going to knock at your door - you should do something about it (i have no ideas what anyway, i've even thought of giving your cat some klonopin ahah is that even possibile? maybe i'm crazy)



No worries whenever you can. I hope your pain eases..
my pain never eases, there are some moments in which it very slightly diminishes but it's unbearable. thank you anyways. can't wait to end it.

sorry again if my english is incorrect, i'm always insecure about that
 
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Catch-22

Catch-22

But in the end it doesn't even matter...😢
Aug 19, 2019
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i'm sorry you had to re order your SN.
so you should split the two activities,
so first divide the SN (and only then CTB). i would recommend you transfer the SN on a kitchen table / desk with baking paper on it so that any debris is under control and you can discard them easily through the rubbish (i did this way). but of course it's a personal thing and you should do the way u feel it's better for u.
i would avoid measuring it out when you're not alone - unless you have a personal space which is not the case for the shower - your mother could enter the bathroom, but again it's personal and tied to your routine
yes the advantage of the shower is that you could drain the debris in case there should be any
i feel you, its was the same exact fucking thing for me. just the thought of dividing it gave me more anxiety but i had to. and i went for the desk with the baking paper on it
wishing you much luck for the measuring

the male friend of the mine i mentioned (the one of the metal spoon) fainted in 5 minutes, but he was overweight, didn't leave the house much, and so on.
a female friend, instead, who was very athletic and always on the go, it took exactly 20 minutes for her to faint.
Stan's guide says there's no way for an individual to predict then the symptoms will happen, but your pre existing health status is crucial.
i've heard people had to wait like 40 minutes or even 1 hour, for their symptoms to occur, maybe i just heard wrong. anyway i don't think it should take longer than that for the symptoms to occur, maybe the process of death yes, up to 4 hours. that's what scares the most - the fact that it may take so long to die that someone could find you at the 2nd-3rd hour and ur left with permanent brain damage. but i guess we have to take that risk. after all i think probably most people are gone in circa 1 hour .
me and my grandma have a room one in front of the other. luckily she's almost competely deaf, she only responds to very low frequencies (when you open the entrance door, or when you slam the toilet seat), so i'm safe i suppose. i even did two noise tests
()
( this one in loop too)
she didn't react even when she was literally on the verge of my door (cause the bathroom is between my room and hers)
your cat might be a problem, don't underestimate that risk. you never know whether your mother is going to knock at your door - you should do something about it (i have no ideas what anyway, i've even thought of giving your cat some klonopin ahah is that even possibile? maybe i'm crazy)




my pain never eases, there are some moments in which it very slightly diminishes but it's unbearable. thank you anyways. can't wait to end it.

sorry again if my english is incorrect, i'm always insecure about that

I understand pain I've had it my entire life and it's so severe I have nerve pain throughout my whole body it's attacking me killing me I also have multiple infections I can't get rid of and no healthcare help I'm literally dying in bed. I have a small window when my mom's going to be gone but like I mentioned it never usually lands up when I'm conscious enough.. meaning meaning not on a lot of medication and I can think clearly to be able to complete the task correctly. I'm going to have to measure the stuff out tonight or tomorrow. I couldn't even get back here sooner because the nerve pain is so severe the drugs just make me sleep all the time.. I'm not living I'm not even surviving. I'm scared it has to be maybe next week and then I leave I might not get another chance. I might only have 3 hours. My package is 100 g's I'm trying to think I think I bought two bottles they're made out of rubber. I'm still wondering if it'll be okay for me to measure the stuff out this weekend so I can take next weekend. I think you're like 8 oz so I know air is going to get in although they're supposed to at least feel that water. Let me know if it's okay to DM you a picture of the bottles I purchased.. I'm also going to try to write down my plans for transferring it and maybe leaving it in there and adding water I don't know I have to pick it up more and it has to be very soon. Yeah let me know if I can DM you maybe with some pictures

About my cat yeah she'll probably cry if she knows I'm a distress but my mom really checks on me I could go two days without seeing her and she probably wouldn't blink. She doesn't care about me anyhow I'm going to have my door locked. I'm in so much pain I know it's not going to be good it's not going to be a peaceful way to go maybe not but I have to leave or she will put me away in assisted living or she'll try to get me locked up.
 

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