SN organ donor?

[Dosentmatter903]

Writing my letter to the coroner and leaving instructions wich brought to to this one...can you still be an organ donor if you're poisoned? Specifically by SN

 

[wanderingspirit]

You cannot donate your organs after suicide.

Your organs must be alive to be harvested and, as we all know, if you're found alive after a ctb attempt, you've lost the battle.

Poisoning also renders the use of any body parts impossible

 

[neurotic]

You cannot donate your organs after suicide.

In most cases, yes.


Being an organ donor is a highly specific process. Even if your organs were still viable to use after SN, it'd be too late for them to save. Organ donating is usually reserved for those who are already on life support where surgeons can take their time keeping the body alive and extracting the organs. Unless you can find a way to die while also being under supervision in a hospital on life support almost immediately, it's likely impossible they'd be able to do anything with you.

 

[wanderingspirit]

In most cases, yes.


Being an organ donor is a highly specific process. Even if your organs were still viable to use after SN, it'd be too late for them to save. Organ donating is usually reserved for those who are already on life support where surgeons can take their time keeping the body alive and extracting the organs. Unless you can find a way to die while also being under supervision in a hospital on life support almost immediately, it's likely impossible they'd be able to do anything with you.

That's pretty much exactly what i said

 

[neurotic]

That's pretty much exactly what i said

You cannot donate your organs after suicide.

I was clarifying for them that there are some cases when you can harvest organs after suicide.

 

[thethatsitboy]

I recall reading a recent article about a successful liver transplant where the donor died by suicide using SN. I came across it on Google Scholar.

 

[betternever2havbeen]

In most cases, yes.


Being an organ donor is a highly specific process. Even if your organs were still viable to use after SN, it'd be too late for them to save. Organ donating is usually reserved for those who are already on life support where surgeons can take their time keeping the body alive and extracting the organs. Unless you can find a way to die while also being under supervision in a hospital on life support almost immediately, it's likely impossible they'd be able to do anything with you.

Just so I know, you can't end up on life support after taking SN can you? Because that's one of my worst nightmares. I also don't wish to be an organ donor (I opted out) but I hope I can still be useful in some way after I've gone, maybe leaving money to charity or something. Anyone who wants to be an organ donor has all my respect though.

 

[neurotic]

Just so I know, you can't end up on life support after taking SN can you? Because that's one of my worst nightmares. I also don't wish to be an organ donor (I opted out) but I hope I can still be useful in some way after I've gone, maybe leaving money to charity or something. Anyone who wants to be an organ donor has all my respect though.

If you're opted out of organ donating, you have nothing to worry about.
However, if the idea of giving to people appeals to you before you die, maybe look into other organ donations like kidneys, liver, and/or blood. They're all life saving and it could be argued a lot more useful than donating currency.

 

[squirley]

You cannot donate your organs after suicide.

Yes you can depending on the time line.
Of body found.
and amount of blood lost.
And the method.

Your organs must be alive to be harvested and, as we all know, if you're found alive after a ctb attempt, you've lost the battle.

So you ctb beside a ems or le or hospital.
Brain death and organ death are different.
You don't need to be found "alive"
Just depends on the amount of time.

Suicide victim's organs give life to 3 | Bengaluru News - Times of India

When 18-year-old Jeevitha (name changed) from East Bangalore was declared brain dead on December 20, four days after she tried to commit suicide, her

m.timesofindia.com

Poisoning also renders the use of any body parts impossible

I agree.
** edit not any ** certain parts.
You do one thing your lungs... not good
but your kidneys might be.
Method. *
In relation to the OP
sn would be classified as a poison.
You can find videos of forensic/autopsies with poison/OD only affect certain areas while leaving others untouched.

 

[quietxconfessions]

There are 2 forms of solid organ transplant donors: Donation after Cardiac Death (DCD) or brain death donors.

Both need to be on life support to keep the organs alive. So a person would have to be found alive or found close enough to time of arrest to be able to be revived via CPR. The problem with a prolonged downtime is the tissue hypoxia and tissue death. Methemoglobinemia starves the tissues of oxygen and would render the organs unusable.

All scenarios of donation require life support. Best case scenario is you're brain dead, thus legally dead.

(I work in solid organ transplant).

 

[squirley]

There are 2 forms of solid organ transplant donors: Donation after Cardiac Death (DCD) or brain death donors.

Both need to be on life support to keep the organs alive. So a person would have to be found alive or found close enough to time of arrest to be able to be revived via CPR. The problem with a prolonged downtime is the tissue hypoxia and tissue death. Methemoglobinemia starves the tissues of oxygen and would render the organs unusable.

All scenarios of donation require life support. Best case scenario is you're brain dead, thus legally dead.

(I work in solid organ transplant).

Exactly...
Time.
Support.
Method.

It's not impossible. Just very strict on method and time.

 

[thethatsitboy]

I recall reading a recent article about a successful liver transplant where the donor died by suicide using SN. I came across it on Google Scholar.

Found the article: Successful Liver Transplantation After Neurologically Determined Death Donation Following Sodium Nitrite Poisoning

 

[nothingbutmybest]

All that matters for an organ donation is how healthy the organ is, so it's technically possible but the process has to happen so fast that it's extremely unlikely you'll be able to.

Time related problems are
-Actually being found fast enough for your organs to be viable
-Being confirmed as a registered organ donor (notes don't count)
-Verifying organ compatibility/Finding a corresponding organ donor
-Transporting and transplanting the organ on time

 

[Praestat_Mori]

I would not want to have an organ implanted from someone who took poison. Organ transplantation is an ethical question to me. Once the organ is dead it can't be transplanted any more, that's why according to my understanding, it works only when the body is still kept alive and only "brain-death", whatever that may be, is determined by 2 or 3 doctors.

Brain-Death doesn't mean to be dead, dieing is a process that takes more than just a second (whether naturally or by CTB). In my opinion these poor bodies agreeing to organ transplantation see (via near death experience) how their bodies are being slaughtered, this must be true horror in the moments of ones own death. That's why I would never agree to being slaughtered after my death.

 

[Forever Sleep]

In most cases, yes.


Being an organ donor is a highly specific process. Even if your organs were still viable to use after SN, it'd be too late for them to save. Organ donating is usually reserved for those who are already on life support where surgeons can take their time keeping the body alive and extracting the organs. Unless you can find a way to die while also being under supervision in a hospital on life support almost immediately, it's likely impossible they'd be able to do anything with you.

Which is another reason they should legalise assisted suicide. Sarco pods in facilities next to hospitals. Inert gas- no poison involved- presumably organs would be ok to upcycle. I'd be delighted to help someone who wanted to live after my death. Win, win. Presuming my organs are any good that is... I have my doubts with all the aches and pains I'm getting.

 

[quietxconfessions]

I would not want to have an organ implanted from someone who took poison. Organ transplantation is an ethical question to me. Once the organ is dead it can't be transplanted any more, that's why according to my understanding, it works only when the body is still kept alive and only "brain-death", whatever that may be, is determined by 2 or 3 doctors.

Brain-Death doesn't mean to be dead, dieing is a process that takes more than just a second (whether naturally or by CTB). In my opinion these poor bodies agreeing to organ transplantation see (via near death experience) how their bodies are being slaughtered, this must be true horror in the moments of ones own death. That's why I would never agree to being slaughtered after my death.

Brain death IS death. Legal death. If you are truly determined to be brain dead with no cerebral blood flow or you meet the criteria of brain death including an apnea test, they you are declared legally and ethically dead.

There is also Declaration by cardiac death which does not require brain death but involves the heart stopped completely.

The general publics misunderstanding on brain death is something I advocate strongly to correct.