in a lot of discussions I see people assuming SN was a peaceful and painless method.
it gains its credibility partly because it is mentioned in the PPH.
I personally wouldn't bet on it and here is why and what to do about it.
Mechanism of Action
SN will change the part of your blood that is used to transport oxygen to your cells. All cells, muscle tissue, heart cells, brain cells, etc. Without oxygen, these cells will die and eventually cause death of the entire body.
Death caused by lack of oxygen is call hypoxia
However, this is a painful way to go. Because you will ingest SN it will take a lot of time to actually turn your entire blood brownish. You will breath during that time, and provide a constant flow of oxygen transported by the blood cells that have not yet been converted.
At the same time, your stomach will fight it. In fact, if you want to make a person vomit (probably after an alcohol intoxication) you'll give him water with a lot of table salt. This will cause nausea and vomiting. The salty taste of SN will cause the same.
Your system cannot understand what happens, because it doesn't detect an increase in CO2, everything seems to be working fine, and yet cells are killed. Your heart will start to overcompensate and you'll experience tachycardia.
All of this happens in fading but full consciousness. SN in and of itself does not have any effect on your consciousness. It's neither sedative nor hypnotic.
It is most likely a physically distressing and uncomfortable experience, to say the least
Comparison with other methods
IG is a method that delivers hypoxia through other means, i.e. by eliminating the oxygen at all. This is why with a proper setup you will lose consciousness after seconds. The only oxygen left is the oxygen that's still in your body when you step into the exit bag. Its by orders of magnitude faster than relying on the deterioration of the transporting blood cells.
Chloroquine is a drug that — in simple terms — can make your heart stop beating. Just like SN it doesn't have sedative nor hypnotic effects.
N — that's why N is considered the holy grail for chemical suicide. It has sedative and hypnotic effects in and of its own. It makes you fall into deep sleep before it will cause death. All of that in a single ingredient.
What to do about it / how to make SN peaceful
All that being said, SN is just the means of causing death. To make it safe and peaceful we need supplementary drugs.
To make it safe it is absolutely crucial to take antiemetics that you've tested on yourself before. Vomiting during an SN attempt will leave an unknown dose of poison in your body and thus increase the chance of failure with permanent damage. In fact, the PPH advises to stop the process and induce further vomiting if that happens. The alternative is to have a backup dose of SN for further ingestion. The salty taste could induce more vomiting and I wouldn't bet you can drink it once panic has set in. So, I'd follow the PPH advice here.
To make it peaceful, we must cause a blackout before the effects kick in. That's why benzos are so crucial in the process. The recommended doses in the PPH are so high that they might even induce coma. That's for a reason. Don't skip them.
Another thing that might help is mirtazapine. It has sedative and antiemetic effects and will likely ease you emotionally in the process without knocking you out fully.
What most likely won't help are otc meds for pain relief or antiemetic purposes. Ibuprofen for example is often mentioned here (but not in the PPH). Most likely because it increases gastrointestinal complications while being to weak to ease the effects of SN poisoning.
I know there are people more knowledgeable about medicine and pharmacology but from the best of my knowledge I would strongly advise to follow the PPH protocol and don't rely on luck in that matter.
HTH
it gains its credibility partly because it is mentioned in the PPH.
I personally wouldn't bet on it and here is why and what to do about it.
Mechanism of Action
SN will change the part of your blood that is used to transport oxygen to your cells. All cells, muscle tissue, heart cells, brain cells, etc. Without oxygen, these cells will die and eventually cause death of the entire body.
Death caused by lack of oxygen is call hypoxia
However, this is a painful way to go. Because you will ingest SN it will take a lot of time to actually turn your entire blood brownish. You will breath during that time, and provide a constant flow of oxygen transported by the blood cells that have not yet been converted.
At the same time, your stomach will fight it. In fact, if you want to make a person vomit (probably after an alcohol intoxication) you'll give him water with a lot of table salt. This will cause nausea and vomiting. The salty taste of SN will cause the same.
Your system cannot understand what happens, because it doesn't detect an increase in CO2, everything seems to be working fine, and yet cells are killed. Your heart will start to overcompensate and you'll experience tachycardia.
All of this happens in fading but full consciousness. SN in and of itself does not have any effect on your consciousness. It's neither sedative nor hypnotic.
It is most likely a physically distressing and uncomfortable experience, to say the least
Comparison with other methods
IG is a method that delivers hypoxia through other means, i.e. by eliminating the oxygen at all. This is why with a proper setup you will lose consciousness after seconds. The only oxygen left is the oxygen that's still in your body when you step into the exit bag. Its by orders of magnitude faster than relying on the deterioration of the transporting blood cells.
Chloroquine is a drug that — in simple terms — can make your heart stop beating. Just like SN it doesn't have sedative nor hypnotic effects.
N — that's why N is considered the holy grail for chemical suicide. It has sedative and hypnotic effects in and of its own. It makes you fall into deep sleep before it will cause death. All of that in a single ingredient.
What to do about it / how to make SN peaceful
All that being said, SN is just the means of causing death. To make it safe and peaceful we need supplementary drugs.
To make it safe it is absolutely crucial to take antiemetics that you've tested on yourself before. Vomiting during an SN attempt will leave an unknown dose of poison in your body and thus increase the chance of failure with permanent damage. In fact, the PPH advises to stop the process and induce further vomiting if that happens. The alternative is to have a backup dose of SN for further ingestion. The salty taste could induce more vomiting and I wouldn't bet you can drink it once panic has set in. So, I'd follow the PPH advice here.
To make it peaceful, we must cause a blackout before the effects kick in. That's why benzos are so crucial in the process. The recommended doses in the PPH are so high that they might even induce coma. That's for a reason. Don't skip them.
Another thing that might help is mirtazapine. It has sedative and antiemetic effects and will likely ease you emotionally in the process without knocking you out fully.
What most likely won't help are otc meds for pain relief or antiemetic purposes. Ibuprofen for example is often mentioned here (but not in the PPH). Most likely because it increases gastrointestinal complications while being to weak to ease the effects of SN poisoning.
I know there are people more knowledgeable about medicine and pharmacology but from the best of my knowledge I would strongly advise to follow the PPH protocol and don't rely on luck in that matter.
HTH
