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FearOfMachines

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Dec 13, 2024
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A lot of people suggest using SN for pretty much anything. At first it may have been a good method but I think it is becoming less and less reliable. I'm sure most people have heard this but a lot of sources of SN aren't completely pure which then sequences a very thorough purity test. If you are expecting a quick way out, chemicals are usually not the best method.
 
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Good thing there is usually a way of testing the purity of the substance beforehand. There is no method that I would consider a "quick way out" besides maybe a gun. Every other method has its flaws.
 
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Eudaimonic

Eudaimonic

I want to fade away.
Aug 11, 2023
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The issue is that the most common ways of testing SN yield potentially inaccurate results

Also what makes you say it's becoming less reliable?
 
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Forever Sleep

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Do you have a better alternative in mind?

I can't say I'm thrilled at the prospect of taking SN but, it still seems the best choice for me personally still.
 
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last_pizza_slice

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I'm not sure there is really any evidence to suggest that it is becoming less reliable
 
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howunfortunateforme

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Oct 2, 2024
413
My friend from here just died using it god rest her soul and it's my only option why do you think it's less reliable I thought Dmc was legit too
 
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Sail_to_Infinity

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Feb 24, 2020
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They recommend it because it is relatively the most peaceful, widely available and reliable method when using the entire regime. Not everyone has access to weapons, not everyone has nerves of steel to jump in front of a train or jump from a height. SN and hanging are the most available methods. It doesn't matter whether the purity is 98% or 50%. That's why you make 2 drinks of 25g each, so that there is a reserve. The tests are inaccurate when indicating the concentration by 1%, but not so much that they are wrong by, say, 50%.
 
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roommate

roommate

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Feb 14, 2025
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They recommend it because it is relatively the most peaceful, widely available and reliable method when using the entire regime. Not everyone has access to weapons, not everyone has nerves of steel to jump in front of a train or jump from a height. SN and hanging are the most available methods. It doesn't matter whether the purity is 98% or 50%. That's why you make 2 drinks of 25g each, so that there is a reserve. The tests are inaccurate when indicating the concentration by 1%, but not so much that they are wrong by, say, 50%.
Nobody recommends 50% purity, it could go very wrong, where are you getting that from
 
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Rymrgand

Rymrgand

From now on, there will be no more darkness
Jan 5, 2025
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What do you mean? Chemicals are one of the most reliable ways, assuming you can get them, and SN is one of the easiest chemicals you can get.
My friend from here just died using it god rest her soul and it's my only option why do you think it's less reliable I thought Dmc was legit too
A lot of people has CTB with DMC. Unless there's any news about they selling lately less pure SN that I haven't heard, they are legit.
They recommend it because it is relatively the most peaceful, widely available and reliable method when using the entire regime. Not everyone has access to weapons, not everyone has nerves of steel to jump in front of a train or jump from a height. SN and hanging are the most available methods. It doesn't matter whether the purity is 98% or 50%. That's why you make 2 drinks of 25g each, so that there is a reserve. The tests are inaccurate when indicating the concentration by 1%, but not so much that they are wrong by, say, 50%.
Purity matters, it's recommended to use high purity SN, but a good source should sell it like that. And that's not why you prepare several doses, you do it because you may vomit the first one.
 
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rozeske

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Dec 2, 2023
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How does a highly lethal poison become less and less reliable over time?
 
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Sail_to_Infinity

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Feb 24, 2020
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What do you mean? Chemicals are one of the most reliable ways, assuming you can get them, and SN is one of the easiest chemicals you can get.

A lot of people has CTB with DMC. Unless there's any news about they selling lately less pure SN that I haven't heard, they are legit.

Purity matters, it's recommended to use high purity SN, but a good source should sell it like that. And that's not why you prepare several doses, you do it because you may vomit the first one.
Nobody recommends 50% purity, it could go very wrong, where are you getting that from
Yea, of course u want as pure as it possible, remember that storage conditions are as important as purity.
 
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cme-dme

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Also what makes you say it's becoming less reliable?
Where did I say that? I was just stating that every method has its flaws and that there is no such thing as a flawless method
 
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Namelesa

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Sep 21, 2024
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Where did I say that? I was just stating that every method has its flaws and that there is no such thing as a flawless method
I think they were saying that to OP not you as OP said about it being less reliable
 
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cme-dme

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Feb 1, 2025
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I think they were saying that to OP not you as OP said about it being less reliable
ah my bad I thought it was OP replying to me not @Eudaimonic
 
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frommolecules2stars

Born, survive, reproduce, die.
Dec 23, 2024
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OP, you can't just make a claim that is widely unaccepted by the scientific community without providing evidence to back it up. You barely explained how it is becoming less reliable. And not to mention how you made a very broad claim that chemicals are not a good option for ctb. Can you provide evidence? Any statistics?
 
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Mav

Mav

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Aug 30, 2024
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It isn't. It's incredibly painful & didn't work for me. You will be sooo sick, I don't care how many antiemetics you take. Don't do it. I can't be more serious about this!
 
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notausgang

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Sep 23, 2024
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It isn't. It's incredibly painful & didn't work for me. You will be sooo sick, I don't care how many antiemetics you take. Don't do it. I can't be more serious about t

It isn't. It's incredibly painful & didn't work for me. You will be sooo sick, I don't care how many antiemetics you take. Don't do it. I can't be more serious about this!

I am so sorry for your bad experience. Could you please tell what happened during your attempt?
 
Rymrgand

Rymrgand

From now on, there will be no more darkness
Jan 5, 2025
53
It isn't. It's incredibly painful & didn't work for me. You will be sooo sick, I don't care how many antiemetics you take. Don't do it. I can't be more serious about this!
I'm really sorry for your experience, but there are a lot of documanted cases, both from successes and failures, that show that it's reliable and, even if it fails, not too harmful, compared to other methods. The PPH also supports this. Can you tell more about your case? Since you talked about antiemetics, I assume you did vomit the SN?
 
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TheHolySword

TheHolySword

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Nov 22, 2024
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SN is widely documented here, it's very reliable lol. Even still, what methods do you think are more reliable? Every method has its faults, there isn't one you can point to that I couldn't find something unreliable about it.
 
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WeDontKnowTheFuture

Student
Feb 3, 2023
192
There are spies here, trying to discourage those determined to die from using one of the only methods available, or perhaps the only one, that is not violent.
I can't be sure it is the case here but i remain doubtful..
 
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Mav

Lost somewhere
Aug 30, 2024
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I'm really sorry for your experience, but there are a lot of documanted cases, both from successes and failures, that show that it's reliable and, even if it fails, not too harmful, compared to other methods. The PPH also supports this. Can you tell more about your case? Since you talked about antiemetics, I assume you did vomit the SN?
I started vomiting within seconds. I was on life support for 7 days & suffered a cardiac arrest, stroke, & myocardial infarction as a result. I have a medical degree, so the rate at which I got sick was incredibly unexpected. I crashed & it was horrible. It was so unbearable. The pain associated was debilitating! I took Zofran & Promethazine to no avail.
I am so sorry for your bad experience. Could you please tell what happened during your attempt?
I started vomiting within seconds. I was on life support for 7 days & suffered a cardiac arrest, stroke, & myocardial infarction as a result. I have a medical degree, so the rate at which I got sick was incredibly unexpected. I crashed & it was horrible. It was so unbearable. The pain associated was debilitating! I took Zofran & Promethazine to no avail.
 
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howunfortunateforme

Arcanist
Oct 2, 2024
413
I started vomiting within seconds. I was on life support for 7 days & suffered a cardiac arrest, stroke, & myocardial infarction as a result. I have a medical degree, so the rate at which I got sick was incredibly unexpected. I crashed & it was horrible. It was so unbearable. The pain associated was debilitating! I took Zofran & Promethazine to no avail.

I started vomiting within seconds. I was on life support for 7 days & suffered a cardiac arrest, stroke, & myocardial infarction as a result. I have a medical degree, so the rate at which I got sick was incredibly unexpected. I crashed & it was horrible. It was so unbearable. The pain associated was debilitating! I took Zofran & Promethazine to no avail.
I am so sorry. We all prob want to know your Protocol and was your source Dmc? How long were you fasted for?
 

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