blueclover_.

blueclover_.

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According to the PPeH, SN is rated 7/10 of peacefulness. To some people, a 3/10 pain is a piece of cake. To some people, a 3/10 pain is torture. That's why read the godddamn guide. Take painkillers. Take benzos/benadryl. Take meto. Take antacid. Fast until your stomach feels empty. Don't do it in the middle of a party, you don't wanna get saved.

If you cry from a papercut, yeah the most gentle method will hurt.

Don't just believe everything people say. Do your own research if you're serious about it.
 
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puppet_nihilist

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Agreed, research is always important. Better safe than sorry. I just think that with sn, reading the line in the wiki about consequences of failure: "The effects of this poisoning are completely reversible, and having any permanent damages is highly unlikely, should you be "saved" during your attempt." gives me some unusual comfort. Not planning on surviving my attempt of course but reading that sentence completely diminishes my SI. If pain is the price to pay for dying with low SI, I might as well go all the way. But, as you said, research is important.
 
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The effects of this poisoning are completely reversible, and having any permanent damages is highly unlikely, should you be "saved" during your attempt."

This sentence itself however looks unlikely to be true for me. If something slowly kills you over a prolonged period of time, there should be a moment in time where your brain is already seriously damaged but still can survive. Should you be "saved" at that moment, there should be some permanent damage left. Why should SN be very different in that respect from any other method killing brain by hypoxia?
 
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GenesAndEnvironment

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Don't just believe everything people say. Do your own research if you're serious about it.
Me, believing what you just said:
Golden State Warriors Meme GIF
 
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This sentence itself however looks unlikely to be true for me. If something slowly kills you over a prolonged period of time, there should be a moment in time where your brain is already seriously damaged but still can survive. Should you be "saved" at that moment, there should be some permanent damage left. Why should SN be very different in that respect from any other method killing brain by hypoxia?
Nt sre b/ no rprts of damge in n.e1 yt
 
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People have reported "mild to moderate" pain with SN, mostly due to headache and/or stomachache. Very few reports of "unbearable" pain. If proper method is followed, unconsciousness is likely to happen between 15-20 minutes from ingestion. I think anyone can endure some minutes of moderate discomfort (if they really want to ctb that is).
I do have migraines, and can tolerate a hard headache for much more than 15 minutes.
 
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I agree. I tried it, SN + meto + antacid + painkillers, I only took a few sips; barely what I was supposed to take. Still, the pain was like 8/10 for me, but it was more the survival instincts than anything. Heart was beating so fast I could literally see it pumping against my ribcage when I looked in the mirror, ended up throwing up all of it like 15 mins later. Id give it a 7.5/10 on the pain scale; 10 being torture, 1 being a walk in the park.
 
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I agree. I tried it, SN + meto + antacid + painkillers, I only took a few sips; barely what I was supposed to take. Still, the pain was like 8/10 for me, but it was more the survival instincts than anything. Heart was beating so fast I could literally see it pumping against my ribcage when I looked in the mirror, ended up throwing up all of it like 15 mins later. Id give it a 7.5/10 on the pain scale; 10 being torture, 1 being a walk in the park.
Did exprince scr u 2 mch 2 drnk 2nd glss..
 
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Did exprince scr u 2 mch 2 drnk 2nd glss..
Yes, but more than anything it was the taste. It was not as bad as I'd anticipated, oddly enough (since I have hypersensitive taste that makes me gag at most normal foods) but it was just so salty. Admittedly I didn't use two glasses, just one which probably had too much water in it, which contributed to the ineptitude of the plan. I tried sipping but I wasn't getting enough of it down, so I tried big glugs but that just made me heave. I finished about a third of what I was supposed to, and even that had me quite frantic and in physical pain. It was the heart beating that really terrified me, but I should've expected it really. I ended up just throwing it up and going to bed pissed off and disappointed in myself.
 
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It was the heart beating that really terrified me, but I should've expected it really. I ended up just throwing it up and going to bed pissed off and disappointed in myself.
U nvr knw hw u wll react untl it hppns...
 
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N Is they way to go
 
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I've read almost every thread on SN here on SS I think. I'm not convinced it's as peaceful as a 7/10 for most people even if you follow Stan's regime. Having said that, the real question is, relative to other methods, how peaceful is SN? For me, it seems after N, it's still the best way to go. Beggers can't be choosers is the saying.
 
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This sentence itself however looks unlikely to be true for me. If something slowly kills you over a prolonged period of time, there should be a moment in time where your brain is already seriously damaged but still can survive. Should you be "saved" at that moment, there should be some permanent damage left. Why should SN be very different in that respect from any other method killing brain by hypoxia?
The thing is Sodium Nitrite can naturally be digested by the enzymes in your stomach. It's just that in large doses you don't have enough of those enzymes, so neutralization is delayed, and those excess nitrites react with the rich-oxygen blood instead, causing methemoglobinemia, leading to hypoxia. So if doctors were to give you a lot of methanyl blue, those Nitrites can be neutralized pretty quickly and your blood is supplied back with oxygen. Sodium Nitrite itself is not poisonous, the dose makes the poison.

In cases of death by hypoxia, compared to the exit bag method, SN has never been reported to cause permanent brain damage separate from cardiac arrest. So, if you drink SN and go into a cardiac arrest, you have a higher 4% chance of getting brain damage. Most (healthy) people do not get any problem with the heart after ingesting SN, so they will either die or get saved and be fine.
I agree. I tried it, SN + meto + antacid + painkillers, I only took a few sips; barely what I was supposed to take. Still, the pain was like 8/10 for me, but it was more the survival instincts than anything. Heart was beating so fast I could literally see it pumping against my ribcage when I looked in the mirror, ended up throwing up all of it like 15 mins later. Id give it a 7.5/10 on the pain scale; 10 being torture, 1 being a walk in the park.
Some people just have lower pain tolerance, average might say it's a 4-6/10 pain, people with higher pain tolerance would have no problem with it. If you're not used to pain, any method will be painful. Just focus on your will to ctb, the pain will be over soon before you know it.
I've read almost every thread on SN here on SS I think. I'm not convinced it's as peaceful as a 7/10 for most people even if you follow Stan's regime. Having said that, the real question is, relative to other methods, how peaceful is SN? For me, it seems after N, it's still the best way to go. Beggers can't be choosers is the saying.
Please, it should be as clear as day that N is the golden ticket. Like, people, SN is just the good enough rip-off. It's an alternative for poor and unmotivated people like me who can't get N.
 
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Starryeyes

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I don't think you should sip it. That's like getting a shot of tequila and sipping that. Gross. I'm just guna down it
 
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im also a bit scared of sn and the racing heart thing plus nausea, I've seen a live ctb and sn was used, it didn't look peaceful at all, nonetheless sn is a realiable method from what I've seen.. still i don't want to feel very nauseous and like my heart is racing:/ i still respect those who found their method and won't argue, im quite sensitive so i prefer a 9/10 10/10 peacefulness method
 
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im also a bit scared of sn and the racing heart thing plus nausea, I've seen a live ctb and sn was used, it didn't look peaceful at all, nonetheless sn is a realiable method from what I've seen.. still i don't want to feel very nauseous and like my heart is racing:/ i still respect those who found their method and won't argue, im quite sensitive so i prefer a 9/10 10/10 peacefulness method
Y did ctb nt lk peacfl whn u sw it if dnt mnd askng...
 
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im also a bit scared of sn and the racing heart thing plus nausea, I've seen a live ctb and sn was used, it didn't look peaceful at all, nonetheless sn is a realiable method from what I've seen.. still i don't want to feel very nauseous and like my heart is racing:/ i still respect those who found their method and won't argue, im quite sensitive so i prefer a 9/10 10/10 peacefulness method
Is there such a method though? 😞 (Besides exit bag)
 
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According to the PPeH, SN is rated 7/10 of peacefulness. To some people, a 3/10 pain is a piece of cake. To some people, a 3/10 pain is torture. That's why read the godddamn guide.

Panic can turn even a physically painless experience into hell on earth. If your SI induces a panic attack, you'll go crazy with fear & pain even before ingesting N, let alone SN. No amount of benzos can calm certain unfortunate people down before & especially during an attempt.
 
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Panic can turn even a physically painless experience into hell on earth. If your SI induces a panic attack, you'll go crazy with fear & pain even before ingesting N, let alone SN. No amount of benzos can calm certain unfortunate people down before & especially during an attempt.
Th 20 mns aftr takng s.n. tht snds horrifc
 
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Panic can turn even a physically painless experience into hell on earth. If your SI induces a panic attack, you'll go crazy with fear & pain even before ingesting N, let alone SN. No amount of benzos can calm certain unfortunate people down before & especially during an attempt.
I ordered a precursor drug similar to GHB. Im hoping it helps me SI
 
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Its sad that this has to be said. I completely agree with this post.
 
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I agree. I tried it, SN + meto + antacid + painkillers, I only took a few sips; barely what I was supposed to take. Still, the pain was like 8/10 for me, but it was more the survival instincts than anything. Heart was beating so fast I could literally see it pumping against my ribcage when I looked in the mirror, ended up throwing up all of it like 15 mins later. Id give it a 7.5/10 on the pain scale; 10 being torture, 1 being a walk in the park.
would you do it again? if so what would you change ?
 
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would you do it again? if so what would you change ?
She's probably too scared. Anxiety people generally have stronger SI. That's why i strongly suggest taking benzos if you have anxiety or low pain tolerance.
 
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eternalmelancholy

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Well N is harder to get and more expensive. SN is cheap and accessible. I don't think the two can be compared. One is a barbiturate that puts you to sleep (forever). The other is a chemical preservative that poisons your cardiovascular system.

SN does not sound peaceful at all but since it is so cheap and easy to get, it is also going to be a popular option. Same reason why hanging is so popular. That's just my two cents.
 
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Well N is harder to get and more expensive. SN is cheap and accessible. I don't think the two can be compared. One is a barbiturate that puts you to sleep (forever). The other is a chemical preservative that poisons your cardiovascular system.

SN does not sound peaceful at all but since it is so cheap and easy to get, it is also going to be a popular option. Same reason why hanging is so popular. That's just my two cents.
Maybe i'm just tough but i'd take some headaches and nausea over choking and gasping for air with hanging.
 
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Maybe i'm just tough but i'd take some headaches and nausea over choking and gasping for air with hanging.

If you do it right you start to pass out in seconds. But SI is super high with hanging. It is very hard to complete partial and very hard to attempt full. Drinking nasty stuff does not trigger the same kind of SI response I think.
 
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miserableforever

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Oct 23, 2020
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Yes, but more than anything it was the taste. It was not as bad as I'd anticipated, oddly enough (since I have hypersensitive taste that makes me gag at most normal foods) but it was just so salty. Admittedly I didn't use two glasses, just one which probably had too much water in it, which contributed to the ineptitude of the plan. I tried sipping but I wasn't getting enough of it down, so I tried big glugs but that just made me heave. I finished about a third of what I was supposed to, and even that had me quite frantic and in physical pain. It was the heart beating that really terrified me, but I should've expected it really. I ended up just throwing it up and going to bed pissed off and disappointed in myself.
That sounds very scary. I suffer from anxiety and the racing heart is already bad as is on a regular day.
 
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